What does Sup Forums think about spain? both historically and in modern times

what does Sup Forums think about spain? both historically and in modern times.

personally, they're my favorite european country i like their history, especially the colonial empire and the reconquista. hopefully they'll launch a second one.

Yup this country used to be great. Now it's the most pro-faggot country on Earth, thanks to Zapatero

you sure the most pro faggot country isn't scandinavian, or the uk?

Scandinavians are not even counting anymore. They are beyond scale.

Historically I find them very engaging. I don't know why they don't get talked about much, nowadays.

oh, i thought you meant sjw in general. im pretty left leaning compared to the rest of this board, i dont really see homosexuality as a bad thing. i dont think they make good parents though, but if a guy wants dick in his butt i dont really have a problem with it

fascist dark age? idk

their prime days were relatively earlier than other countries as well, so maybe that's a reason

> i dont really see homosexuality as a bad thing. >i dont think they make good parents though,

slippery slope is real though

Your map is lacking a rectangle mate.

yeah but lots of gays dont want kids. i dont think they're good parents, as a kid needs a mom and a dad, but i dont think they're bad people and i dont see anything wrong with being attracted to someone the same sex/gender as you

I love that country, always did. the history is fantastic and the red pilled people are based as fuck.

Historically, we had so much potencial ruined by our leaders and our internal conflicts.
Nowadays, pretty same. :V

what area of spain are you from?

Madrid

Its going to complete shit with a total brain drain to the rest of europe and south america.

At this point it doesnt matter who wins their elections, job creation and retention should be their only priority

Heard Spain isn't doing too well these days

Something about lots of pickpocketers in popular tourist areas, some areas of the country wanting their own independence.

Can a Spainbro bring me up to date on the status of the country?

hows that unemployment rate

You need to understand that Zapatero completely ruined everything. Think Turbo Obama.

Employment rate is decreasing but it is still all time high and will remain so for a while.

Spain is swamped with foreigners, especially the cities like madrid and granada and more.

We have some of the most left leaning retards per square meter there, it's sickening. There's a problem with virtue signaling lefties in the US but over there, it's people competing over how fucking socialist/communist you can be in comparison to others.

Pollls are projecting a political victory for the socialists which plan to let in huge amounts of refugees.

My country is dead, luckily I'm a burger citizen too. I hope trump sees fit to give Spain the Japan treatment and hopefully we can become nationalistic again.

>Be Castille and Aragon
>Reconquista time
>Fighting against muslim women and children, scary amigo, very scary.
>Call it glorious
>Merge and form Spain
>Dick around with Portugal
>Get BTFO'd
>Portugal is going conquistador mode
>Oh shit we need to do the same
>Sail west
>Get lucky and find mountain of silver
>Oh shit we rich now
>Be even more lazy beaner ass
>Cannot into inflation
>Export silver to china, import cheap chinese products, crash domestic production market
>Get dicked around with royal pussy, everyone has royal ties and claims on you.
>Get some lands through weird ass claims and such. Be emperor of both Spain and the HRE. Lose all titles on the HRE.
>Oy we rule the Low Countries now
>Get BTFO'd for 80 years.
>Seajews steal your weapons, send it to their colonies in South America, who sell it to your colonies in South America, who then export it to Spain, to use against the Low Countries. Rinse and repeat.
>Fight the eternal anglo several times and get BTFO'd, muh armada. Also lose clay against them. muh gibraltar!
>Be laughing stock in Europe.
>Napoleon came and fucked you up.
>Continue to dick around in South and Middle America, because those are the only ones you can handle.
>Lose them
>Lose the war against the US.
>Dodge bullet with WW1
>Civil war time. We can be great. Better fascist than red
>Franco wins. Sees the state of his country and tries to do best with one small step at a time.
>During war, commies send the gold reserves to Soviet Russia. effectively making Spain financially hollow
>Franco is blamed for the economic shit the commies caused.
>Spain remains poor throughout the first part of the century
>Spain becomes a democracy again
>Spain is now a refugee camp for Brits, Africans and Gypsies
>Gets modernized with German/EU money
>Spain has become a tourist country

It is not real , most people unemployed works but only untaxed
independence is an excuse to hide lis economic problems of that area

I dont know about catalonia but isn't the basque country one of the most industrialized parts of spain with the highest gdp and lowest unemployment?

Basque secessionist movement is pretty much dying nowadays, according to statistics from the basque government only 19% of basques are pro independence.

Yes it was. Now it is one of the area with less unemployment because it has some tax benefits that others do not have.

my thoughts

Spain is the reason 19 countries in the americas speak Spanish. They unified the region under a single language, overall that's a good thing. Much better than everyone speaking something gay like french.

Also they gave us Puerto rico and guam, should have given us Cuba too but what a shame.

Your apathy is why degeneracy is winning. People like you. Who have accepted your pathetic way of thinking.

You have to care, because they will teach this shit to our children and to our society and act like it's normal. And it will change our way of life for the worse. All because of 4% of the population that was born with a medical disorder, that we treat as a special class.

>Madrid mayor places "refugees welcome" signs everywhere

not every fag wants to end civilisation, some of us simply want to be left alone. It's the, muh pride jew led group that ruins it for everyone.

>personally, they're my favorite european country

I agree, interesting history.

the retarded left is the only one treating them as a special class. the only reason they're treated as a "class" is because they've fought for fights and been discriminated against due to religion. the whole gay rights thing is about equality, so you can't treat them "specially" either and anyone who does so is wrong. you'll notice the people teaching "this shit" to our children usually aren't the gay ones but the supportive leftists. it doesn't matter though, because who you're attracted to doesn't matter and no one can really change it because they can't change the way your mind works. they can't change your physical preference.

whew

I dunno man I got nothing else to add... most of what I know comes from playing Crusader Kings 2..

You talk as if Britain didn't lose their colonies in the Americas too. Or the French.

And you talk as if teaching the world how to rule the seas and increase trade, and colonize new lands, you brush it off as if nothing.

By the way, Spain, in ancient roman times, was known as Hispania, and it is the birthplace of the GLADIUS, the sword that Rome used to create their empire. Romans would go to Spain to improve military tactics and train their soldiers, and they would recruit Spanish men into the Roman Legions because Spaniards were known to be fierce fighters.

nah I thought you were gonna shitpost me 28th the greentext

Except homosexuality is a mental illness, and without the retarded lefties trying to normalize degenerate and damaging behaviours we can do actual scientific research into it and find ways to help and prevent homosexuality.

Who you're attracted to DOES fucking matter. Are you autist? The human body is supposed to develop an attraction to the OPPOSITE sex for the purposes of reproduction. This is evolution according to science. This is how Human DNA is supposed to develop a human.

Homosexuals have a medical disorder in which their reproductive system is that of the opposite sex. Males with the desires of Females. It's a medical condition and it should be researched and treated medically...... the same way that we treat any other disorder that prevents a Human from developing normally.

96% of us are normal and don't need our gender roles destroyed. Honestly, any straight male is GROSSED THE F OUT by homosexual behavior. IT IS NOT NORMAL. STOP BEING APATHETIC you fucking autist. This matters.

Historically the second most relevant country in Europe after the UK, especially in colonial times.
Now not really relevant anymore, which is sad because I founf it beautiful when I visited

Got picked on by british rejects. Too bad for them.

Unemployement is real. For each person working "under the table" you have a person that doesn't count as unemployed because he's receiving the extended aid which puts you out of the unemployement statistics even if you're still unemployed. Also people that work a single day are out of the statistics for that entire month.

Basque country has a huge industry for two reasons: due to their independence movement a lot of money was destinated to finance their industry to appease them. Also they have the best working ethics in all the country plus really brilliant engineers. Some of the best worlwide industries (like PVC) are located there.

>reproductive system

nope, biology is the same it's in the brain. with 7 billion people in the world are you worried about reproduction?

Are you a cuck?

Your country, Italy, is the most relevant country. Your lands produced the Roman Empire, which affected the entire world and our way of life even today.

In order of relevance and importance to Europe:

1. Italy
2. Spain
3. UK

burger thinks that he understands science, claims that gay people think like women. Try harder my fat friend.

I was thinking about more recent times. The Roman empire was more than 2000 years ago. We have been irrelevant longer than Spain has if you don't count fascist times

Now you're playing semantics. Sexual desires is part of sexual reproductive system. We are programmed to be attracted to the opposite sex, and yes this is hormones and in the brain, but it's part of the reproductive system. It's not just the genitals.

honestly Italians =\= romans

A lot of Gay men are inherently interested in beauty hygiene, fashion, and such. Things that women are naturally into. Because women attract Men to mate through beauty.

It's staring you right in the face.

Why? The original Romans and the city of Rome and it's people were within the boundaries of modern Italy.

I'm sure theres an abnormality but it honestly doesn't matter. anyone who says it's "degeneracy" is a cuck whos too worried about other people's preferences
or has a really shit definition of degeneracy

Thoughts on Canary Islands?

Yea, but genetically we are not the same. We were invaded by germanic tribes and we have been occupated by France and Austria till not that long ago

>it is the Brittan of Latin America

culturally. Italy was a nationalist movement in the 19th century. Italian language is Tuscan. Italians just occupy the Roman home territory and have Roman influence like other romance language countries.

Our last colony, and you canĀ“t take that one away, anglo scum.

I love our history. Reading about Conquistadors' biography has always been one of my favourites hobbies. It's just amazing how brave, adventurous and smart my countrymen were.

do you guys grandmother's drool over the spanish royal family like ours do with the brits?

It is degeneracy.

A Man, NATURALLY, is aggressive and strong.

How can you respect a man who gets on his knees and sucks another mans cock and enjoys being someones bitch?

IT IS DEGENERACY. This is NOT what represents Males.

>amerrican education

Lol. Do you think the ancient Romans just packed up and left? They are still there, they lived there through the centuries.

Never been there nor had any business relations with them so I can't really say.

lots of gays are ultra manly. it really doesn't matter. does being aggressive and strong correlate with an attraction to women or is it just the sex that males reproduce with? lots of homos are aggressive and strong. and you only looked at one side because there's a dominant male there too

Sorry French bro. Charlemagne was great. But your contributions don't surpass those of Italy, Spain, and UK

of course not. but still romans do not equal italians. Roman culture is LATIN. Italian culture is Italian. they speak Tuscan. romans weren't just in Italy. romans don't equal Spaniards. they don't equal frenchman.

No. The "dominant male" gets on his knees and sucks cock too.

No, they are not "ultra manly". I've had people tell me that shit before, and then I tell them to point out who they're talking about, and I can fucking tell the homosexual from 100 miles away. The way they move, talk, anything. Their feminine brain disorder shows through. It's not the same as a heterosexual.

A society needs STRONG defined Family and Gender roles, and Nature already passed these Gender roles unto us. We don't need to pollute it because we refuse to tell homosexuals that they need medical treatment.

Not going well, really. I'd say it's an problem on European level. Some countries (like Germany) have been sucking a good deal of the production from others. The financial and construction bubble did the final touch.
Even with the best tourism years ever, along with budget cuts, our the debt has grown a metric shitton. Thanks to all muslim countries going ape btw, that helped us a lot when tourists couldn't go anymore to those places. We also invested in a few ports to better receive passenger cruisers, which go on almost the whole year.

Prospects? I'd say European Council has been waiting after the national elections (in a week) to proclaim even further budget cuts. The commies are very close to win and EU don't want to stir up shit. So, when we get a government (doesn't matter who) and Europe commands to cut retirements a 10 or 20% along with similar cuts along the board, we'll start seeing some shit. The budget cuts have been very big during the last few years, but the government didn't touch the retirement amounts. When they do you can imagine we're going full Venezuela yolo because the popular party will lose even more support.

On the Brexit: after Britain gets out of of EU, Gibraltar will be isolated from Spain at the first excuse they give.

I wonder why all of our rapebabies and colonies hate us, i guess you need muslim dickfix.

how are we going to treat them? i thought you said it was a biological disorder and that I was playing semantics. so what's your plan on changing what someone finds attractive? do you jack off to lesbian porn?

>Toothpaste still bootyblasted over the 80 years war

TAKE IT BACK

VIVA LA GIBRALTAR

It's natural for Spain's ex-colonies to hate Spain.
Most colonies hate their founders. America hated England for a long time too.

I've typed enough to you. Go back to reddick. What the fuck are you doing on Sup Forums you kike autist.

Just say what you think, which is imprison/cut balls/bromide shots. While the muslim negro neighbor drills your passive aggressive ass.

i just dont have a problem with gays. I don't see anything wrong with it. it doesn't hurt anyone. they're not hurting anyone. let them live their lives in peace. if a man or woman can find inner happiness and joy with another man or woman, thats perfectly ok. I don't care. people are gonna be attracted to who they're attracted to. they can be productive people and good friends. I don't think fucking a guy in the ass is a nice thing, but thats just me. degeneracy has nothing to do with sexuality. you can't really be born a degenerate. its something that happens to you with poor life choices. do you watch lesbian porn?

No, what I think is that the retard liberals like you should allow Medical science to research homosexuality and create a modern treatment or cure.

You keep thinking it's an illness because it goes against the will of God, yooo.

Pedophiles are born with a desire to fuck 3 year olds.

Are they not born "degenerates"?

Just because homo's are "two adults" doesn't change the fact that homosexuals are born with a medical disorder and should be offered modern humane medical treatment so they can be normal like the other 96% of us and stop fucking with our society.

you
can't
"cure"
sexual
preference

at least not now. we are very very far off from changing brain chemistry

Mexico of Europe basically.

It is an illness you fucking autist.

4% of the population is born with this medical disorder, in which a Human is born with the wrong sexual preference.

96% of us developed correctly.

Pretty cool country and people, historically and now, but politically they are totally irrelevant and withdrawn so people don't talk much about them.
Victim of Anglo propaganda to be honest.
Spanish is a beautiful language.

degeneracy is often from not being able to contain yourself. they're degenerate if they act on it because of what it causes (they deserve to die) but I mean they can't really decide they don't wanna fuck a 3 year old. I can't decide I don't wanna fuck asa akira

Once upon a time we couldn't treat schizophrenia or many other illnesses.

With enough research, homosexuality can be treated.

Mexico of Europe is Turkey and Albania/Kosovo.

prove it

I can tell you're young. You've been infected with PC bullshit. Your feels are telling you not to be mean and say the truth.

Actually, it's probably entire Balkans now that I think of it.

They never really recovered from being raped by napoleon.

On the contrary, we went down because Napoleon didn't rape us hard enough. Napoleon was bringing with him rationalism and illustration.

what's the truth? what is objectively wrong with my statements?

Because we didn't, we gave them back as they were no longer economically tenable. Same with France, we both stil have islands in the Caribbean and Britain has military bases in Canada, oh and muh Falklands

Colonies aren't about owning arbitrary clay, but having a cash cow that obeys.

who cares man, a lot more shit fucked up in the world that needs fixing.

Besides if they found a chemical that could make people straight that means the could also make one that turns you gay.

They have mixed too much with moors

gay chemtrails

Is that what they teach you Brits in school now? You "gave away" the American colonies because it didn't make enough money anymore?

nah they're tan but they're white. I don't see any effect with it anyways. plus moors are Caucasian anyways

Oddly accurate summary.

Spanish people are some of the most buttblasted people in the world when it comes to relatively inconsequential historical events. The amount of times I've heard muh pirates muh gibraltar is fucking unbelievable.

Sunny and beautiful.

Completely agree.
Spain is great, spanish leaders are trash.

See, this is another example of apathy.

The kikes have CONDITIONED you to say "who cares man" at the sight of 2 homosexuals.

It matters. Family Unit, Gender roles, etc. Just look at the shit going on now with "gender fluidity". It's all degeneracy and apathy allows it to continue.

The only way to stop all of it is to draw a line in the sand and say THIS IS WHAT MEN SHOULD BE LIKE FOR A STRONG AND PROSPEROUS NATION. And then denounce the faggots, trannies, kikes, and the rest of them for trying to pollute it.

Well you are going to find out about that the hard way won't you hans?

Ironic coming from you Hans. At least Spain had a reconquista to expel the moors, not invite them in.