Reparations when, Russia?

Reparations when, Russia?

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>Slavery affected Finland more than it affected Africa - A bleak estimate from a historian

>- In just one winter day a few thousand Finns died on the snowy fields of a village called Napue.

>According to Keskisarja, the bloodiest day in the war history of Finland was a day in February in 1714 during the Great wrath.

>The great wrath was truly a great wrath - The most brutal war from many candidates in the history of Finland. The old folk is truly right about that.

>From Finland's population of 400 000, 30 000 women and children were also taken to be sold. It was downright slavery. Keskisarja states that proportionally Finland suffered more from slavery than any African country.

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lies and propaganda

Wtf russia

No more wargaming monies

>1714
Idk senpai, ask Sweden.

Once again, the eternal r*ssian denies his crimes.

Crimea is rightfully Finnish because Finnish slaves built it

>sw*den forces to war and r*ssia enslaves ~13% of the population
you're both guilty

gib reparations now

>spoils of war
>guilty
Well, it would've been the same for everyone, it's not like you are special or something. That's just the thing that happened. Later you were granted autonomy, and got your language and culture preserved by Russia.

>.fi
into the trash it goes
also slavery is not bad if it affects white people

Does this look like a white person to you?

You are lucky that you defeated this shit in 1918 and 1940, otherwise you would be like estonia, if not worse

>slavery is not bad if it affects white people
this. op is privileged white trash who has the audacity to belittle black slavery. truly ashamed to even share a country with such people.

It's all good now. Atleast we got few Russians and Ukrainians whose ancestors were here causing the trouble to fertilize our bordersoil in ww2

More and more stupid lies are being spread by brainwashed finngolians...

>op is privileged white trash
finngolians are not white, it's we who are white colonizers who should be guilty for eternity for our crimes just as G*rmans are. Truly R*sstards and G*rmtads are the worst among fucking wh*ties.

>Russians
>white

Lay off the Vodka, Tatarov.

>leave Russia
>want reparations

Russia should offer Karelia back to Finland to make amends....dead serious....the world would(for once)respect Russia..if anything if would be great PR

slave comes from word slav, we never got any reparations wtf

Retarded paradox player

agreed. but current government won't do that unfortunately

it would only be a burden, everything Russia touches turns into shit

It really depends on whether the local Russians are removed or not.
Karelia is a really beautiful place, more than any other part of Finland. It could attract tourists if Finns were in control.

Finland is shit as well since it was controlled by the Empire.
So Karelia wouldn't stand out too much.

>Reparations when, Russia?
For what lol.

Finland under Russian rule proudly sent their men to trample any national efforts and uprisings of other parts of the Empire.
All their war heroes put their hand into making sure other slaves remain slaves. Main street of Helsinki is named after a fucking Russian Emperor.

A. Mickiewicz described the Finns as "born slaves, cherishing their shackles and blindly following orders".

>A. Mickiewicz described the Finns as "born slaves, cherishing their shackles and blindly following orders".
Prove him wrong

>Finland under Russian rule proudly sent their men to trample any national efforts and uprisings of other parts of the Empire

We didn't. There was just a handful of Finland-Swedish career soldiers in the service of the Czar. Finns were never conscripted.

Karelia never belonged to Finland. You could give us Alaska back, though. Maybe the world will respect you for once.

Finland is not shit because it's inhabitated by Finns and not Russians

That was when Russia respected their deals with Finland. We were an autonomous part of the Empire. When Russians started breaking the deals we stopped being loyal.

>A.Miczczczck
I don't have to prove shit to a plumber

When Finns talk about Karelia we don't mean the "republic" but the stolen land where our grandparents were born.

>Finns were never conscripted
Because Emperors were retarded. If only your population was thoroughly culled.

Modern Russians are not even descendants of slave owners who were only 2% of the population. So this is irrelevant to us.

Your whole "country" is stolen.

I wouldn't call something that earns ~15x times more on average than russian "shit"

Speak for yourself

Actually even unemployed neets can earn 3-5x more.

Deals? You were imperial subjects. Your only "deal" was to pay taxes and be obedient to Russian masters.

This to be honest.
For the most part of the history, most Russians were "serfs" which is a polite word for slave.
Obiviously, what happend to Fins was bad, but as another Russian already pointed out, it was a war of agression started by Sweden, and taking war booty was normal back in those less civilized days

Finland was the most developed part of the empire.
Our masters were not the retarded serfs that spawned you subhumans but the German elite anyway. Russian empire was a German empire.

>From Finland's population of 400 000, 30 000 women and children were also taken to be sold
Who would even buy a Finn, lol

>Russian masters.

As in the autocrat of all russians (Tsar). Normal russians and landowners weren't even allowed to settle here unless they were diplomats, politicians or investors.

>it was a war of aggression started by sweden
W R O N G
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War

kys

Finland was a backwater shithole and your masters were Russians. We literally had to teach you how to build cities, lmao

>it was a war of agression started by Sweden

>we stopped being loyal.
>being loyal in the first place
Mickiewicz was right. Born slaves, cherishing their shackles.

BHAH!

How does someone who can't even read teach anything?

>weren't even allowed to settle here
No one wanted to settle there, Finland had nothing of worth other then being a buffer between Russia and Sweden.

Yes deal. Emperor Alexander I gave us autonomy and we gave him our loyalty.

When Russians started breaking the deal at the end of 19th century the deal became void and Finland was morally right in seeking independence.

ok sorry i was wrong
but sweden had basically won the war, but then they decided it was good idea to invade russia, and thus they lost.

Yet the tsar Nikolai I and Alexander II called it the jewel of the empire.

It drew in literally most of the foreign investments in the whole empire due to the difference in economic rule which was capitalized and not heavily state controlled like in rest of the empire.


It's funny how you lack the simplest understanding of your own history, or maybe you do but your so blinded by some russian neo-nationalistic bullshit it makes you look like a grade a dumbass.

Why are you so rude to your finnish neighbours?
You both were subjects to same masters, nothing there to brag about

Because we had such low manpower and population that it would have been impossible to defend our borders for an extended period of time. And accepting any Russian offer of peace was pointless because Peter I wanted his warm port in the Baltic and would do anything to get it. The only way to permanently end the conflict was to kill or depose him and have a puppet Tsar crowned.

>We
cringed

as this guy stated literacy rate was even lower among russians. and vast majority of us russians were pathetic slaves and probably had even fewer rights than the finns did

>You both were subjects to same masters
We were their masters

Poor Finns ;_;
Russians are subhuman, but everybody knows that.

You were no master, Ivan, you were a serf

well, good thing you didn't won then, cause Peter was one of the few good Tsars Russia had

Giving an autonomy to Finland was one of most idiotic things ever. Instead of integrating them completely, now we have a retarded hostile country, full of morons who don't even know that Finland was literally created by Russians out of thin air.

Karl XII was also one of Swedens better monarchs.

...

I wish every single F*nn was killed in that war desu. World would be a much better place.

Good thing i descend from german-swedish nobility. Had ancestors as officers in the imperial army and landowners in Sweden before that.

Bow to me slav(es), by thy logic i'm inherently above you.

But autonomous Finland was a loyal subject of the empire. It wasn't until YOU started breaking the deal that there started to be hostility between Finland and Russia.

Funny how Finland-Swedes have never taken DNA tests and came out majority non-Finnish

actually, grand duchy of finland remained as tsarist entity while rest of the russia left the empire with bolsheviks and formed soviet union

Finns should appreciate they didn't live under communism

I've taken 2 from different sites since i got interested about my heritage from reading old familyrecords.

Literally don't care about the subject in other sense than maybe sometimes jokingly bragging about bein bättrefolk yacht-club... person. I don't even know swedish.

The very fact that you had any autonomy is ridiculous. You should've been completely integrated and Russified, but imperial administration was full of short-sighted morons. Now we have anorher hostile european country right at the doorstep. Great job, Russian Empire.

russians are niggers
finns are niggers

Uhrikompleksipostaus nro. 56149

This is the general view back here. What we would get back is some sort of irradiated wasteland full of rural Russians, Soviet architecture and a few broken down, graffiti-painted, past-repair remnants of a better age.

>Now we have anorher hostile european country right at the doorstep.
I wonder why every Russian neighbor is hostile towards Russia. Funny coincidence that keeps on happening again and again and again. It's a conspiracy! Everyone's out to get Russia!

Et taida tietää mitä uhrikompleksi tarkoittaa

If you hadn't tries russificiation Finland wouldn't be a hostile neighbour.

well they fought against commies and even though they lost a part of their country they won the right to stay independent and free of communism.

it's funny that just 100 years ago finland was a part if russia and now they are one of the richest nations on earth, yet quite safe and have a relatively small number of muslim immigrants on their soil while russia is still a poor shithole overrun by muslims, even a neighbouring sweden has significantly more muslims than finland. history is truly a strange thing

Your people are being genocided as we speak. G*rmanics shall soon cease to exist.

existing as a separate entity from russia counts as hostility? is the only solution to end the hostilities to have russia absorb nation after nation on its new borders until whole world is russian?

>was full of short-sighted morons.

They were highly calculative politicians desu. Finland was the most western part when it was acquired (culturally) it was protestant, Literate and the common populace was already highly uneasy and conscious due to enlightenment. Given that they'd gone harsh for it most of the old nobility would've emigrated back to Sweden and the Tsar needed that nobility and it's loyalty more than ever.

And Finland even isn't but they still view us so. Just last week Putin was here for an opera visit and dined with the president.

We didn't have any autonomy, a bunch of Germanic aristocrats claiming to be Finns had autonomy.

Ethnic Finns and ethnic Russians had pretty good relations in imperial times, it's the different results of the Civil War that fucked everything up.

But Finns on Sup Forums seem to be pretty hostile against Russia

>I wonder why every Russian neighbor is hostile towards Russia
That's europeans for you. You still can't get over the fact that you never managed to genocide us.

Without r*ssia it certainly would be. We have unironically never done anything bad to anyone. Maybe we're just too naive and need to start killing everyone around us asap, being "nice" is not the way to go in this shitty fucking world

Is there any nation we aren't hostile towards here? You should see our Youtube comments. There was this one black girl just beauty-blogging. Comments were nothing but nigger this and nigger that.

>posts pic of fennoswede
top cuck

>is the only solution to end the hostilities to have russia absorb nation after nation on its new borders until whole world is russian?
if only

But it is you who tried to genocide us first.

russia as a nation yes but i dont have anything against russians on individual level. governments dont represent its people even if it's "democratic"

>Reparations
Lol, fuck off, Pekka. Never.

You aren't hostile towards Germany

That's because whenever I see the German flag here I assume it's a Turk and don't bother even replying.

no reparations, when the next european great war comes around, finland will invade russia and level moscow with the ground

Good to hear. Because this thread makes it almost seem as if the Finns here hated the Russian people

Wow that was uncalled for

*pays 8 euro for a burger

Russians are whiter than Finns.

Kirghiz have 70% R1a. I guess they are whiter than Lithuanians.

pays 1€ for a burger
ftfy