End of an era :(

End of an era :(

Shoulda happened 10 years ago desu

Do they sell LP's now?

I understand the decision but anyone who claims vinyl is a better format than CDs is a retard.

i first heard sunbather because the album art stood out to me while looking at cds at a best buy. i still pick up cds occasionally, i like owning physical stuff and it's something i can buy on a whim and not go out of my way to look for or order online.
pretty sad but not surprising. at least they'll still sell vinyl for awhile.

i fear the day that CDs will only be sold by certain artists exclusively on their websites at marked up prices as novelties and we'll be stuck with digital downloads and streaming services. this truly is the /wronggeneration/........

I don't think they sell Vinyl, so that isn't the reason they stop selling CD's. Itunes and Spotify is the reason.

It's surprising that Target is considering ditching CDs, too. IIRC, they just made a deal with 4AD to be the only major retail store to sell their albums physically not too long ago.

let people enjoy things

CDfag here. can't remember the last time i bought a new CD from a chain.

pret

Explains why they haven't had much of a selection lately

I was expecting this to happen back in 2012

Hmm... Now the question is why will people even go into Best Buy if they're tossing physical media? Most normies have amazon prime subscriptions now lmao

Nobody goes to Bestbuy for their CD's, they go for their TV's and computers and other large expensive stuff.

they rarely went there for cds. I think even videa brings in more foot traffic

ew. YUCK. i dont want to see ariel pink albums at target

I was mainly joking as in who the fuck even goes into to Best Buy for anything at all. You only go into actual stores now if you want something immediately for an extra 5% of the online price.

Whatever, record stores usually have a CD section where they significantly cheaper. Strangely enough, lots of department stores are starting to sell vinyl records though.

I was considering going to best buy to get some headphones but then I looked up their stock and all they had was Beats, Bose, and their Insignia brand. Fuck that.

i work retail and understand that the largest impact this has will be on retarded old people who can't figure out how a computer works. fuck em

The best buy near me sold vinyl from like 2011-2014
It was a very limited selection but yeah

probably gonna start colouring CDs and marketing them the way vinyls are in about 15 years

Vinyl is better because the limitations of the medium force dumbass audio engineers to make proper mixes.

On CD you can do whatever the fuck you want and that's how we ended up with all this compressed brick walled loud as fuck garbage masters.

It is because you have the best physical format alongside digital files you already have on your PC, CDs are redundant

cds looks quality with each play lps don't.

CDs rot over time, rendering them unusable faster than any format

i have not bought a physical CD from anyone other than the band itself in more than a decade.

casuals music listeners dony buy cds at all.

seriously though. if you are a Sup Forumsfag, you probably go to concerts and buy them or buy the vinyl directly only, and casuals have itunes.

I don't know what retard will claim that vinyl quality is better than CD, I buy vinyl records cuz I like their look and for comfy feeling they provide desu.

>if you are a Sup Forumsfag, you probably go to concerts and buy them
>implying we ever leave our basements
>implying we ever pay for music

That’s a myth, most modern vinyl uses the same digital master as the CD, they just reduce the deep bass and stereo separation on vinyl. Only two come to mind as being truly different masters icky thump and stadium arcadium.

Loudness war is bullshit though and we have been stuck with 20 years of far too much music sounding like shit. Hopefully they stop being dickheads and remix/remaster the last 20 years of new releases and remasters.

>most modern vinyl uses the same digital master as the CD
Everyone mentions this but don't even back up this claim. Very oversimplified

That’s not true. Each time you play a record it degrades, trying to find a mint condition record from the 80s without paying $50+ Is pretty slim. You can find lots of perfect CDs from the same time period that cost $2. The other good thing is because of inbuilt error correction as well s online databases like accurip, you can get a perfect copy from a damaged CD.

If taken good care and played on a turntable that doesn't dig the shit out of the grooves, vinyl can outlive you. CD rot is inevitable and random. Digital distribution is the way to go

Yeah there is a problem with both streaming and digital downloads.

Streaming has the issue of licences, either a bands library or single album not being available or sometimes a song or two from an album will be missing due to licensing.

Digital downloads have the issue of choice, in that a version may be replaced by a new ‘remastered’ version or remixed that sounds like shit. This is especially true for music pre 90s that could have 4-5 different mastering over time, and with physical media you can always get the best one, whereas downloads it’s the latest only.

Shit. I still buy CDs

>Loudness war is bullshit

wrong

They shouldnt start to phase out CD's till the mid 2030's. By then all the old people who still by music will be ancient or dead. and all the young people who grew up with piracy and streaming will be middle aged.

No big surprise. With the shift to streaming I'm sure they've decided they can make better use of their floor space with something else. Will they discount them to move them out, though?

I support vinyl more for the social implications of how we listen to music. Since it's not portable you're more likely to sit still and pay attention. And whoever's in the room has to listen to it as well, so it promotes a communal listening experience. If I can ever find a group of like minded people, I want to start a vinyl listening club.

as a semi old fag i still love physical media because i understand the value of owning something that wont disappear if the lights turn off or your harddrive crashes or phone breaks.
I undesrstand this is where things are going though.
My age group are inbetweeners. When i was a wee lad it was still the old style, you like music, go out, buy it from a store.
Then when i was becoming a teen napster appears and the advent of piracy and torrenting starts. It was amazing. The entirety of recorded music from every era, every country, every genere, ever.

musical scenes start online now, people from all over the world collaborating to make shitty music on a DAW and then naming it like witch chill and slapping an aesthetic on it and uploading it to youtube and soundcloud and spotify, and then you read their twitter and instagram and follow them and the go to their concerts and buy their merch. and you discuss the music in like forums and subreddits and image boards. and you get your music reviews from some bald guy on youtube.

You know who weird it is to have lived in both times in history? I wonder what it was like for those people who grew up before electricity and then bam electricity

The only music you got to listen to when i was a kid was controlled and marketed to you from MTV and the radio.

And now people are like, yeah i love Japanese city pop from the 80's dude.

the 2010's was actually a weird time between the old music business and the new one

the 2000's was when it was dying.

I think by the end of the 2020's physical media will be completely gone. and maybe at best you can buy some novelty vynal.

I also remember renting VHS tapes and video games from blockbuster lol
Friday night, rent pokemon pinball, some shitty B horror movies, some obscure kung fu flicks, buy some pizza.

I have literally no reason to go to best buy anymore

MP3's will be the next format to get phased out even though they're literally nothing. Weird world we're creating for ourselves boys. When vinyl are still being stocked and CD's aren't. When even cassettes are poor popular than CD's.

Same. I love my physical media. I just bought this CD set of the country singer songwriter Mickey Newbury. When I first unfolded this set, I was surprised by how thoughtfully and attractively it was designed. Each of the CDs has a different little stained glass pattern, and the whole box is covered with little designs and quotations that try to get to the heart of Newbury's music. And to top it off the liner notes are great. Getting this thing as a digital download would just dull the whole experience.

Maybe there'll always be a place for sets like this, but I wouldn't have been able to find this at Best Buy anyway.

Nobody think that. It just cooler to look at. What's your gripe?

Why don't more places sell 78s? They were a superior format.

You’re a retard if you don’t exclusively by games from Best Buy with the gamer club card.

I love when people make this shitty example. It shows you care more about the experience than the music itself

>It shows you care more about the experience than the music itself
'Tain't true, but I do think the music and the experience are inseparable.

Just wait till people get nostalgic about the 2000s, then CDs will make a comeback so people can listen to them in their convertible mustang

so what. the modern music business is people getting famous because they have twitter followers (that they most likely bought) and post meme's and viral marketing themselves.
music is secondary when you have some retard just saying the word "gucci gang" over and over.

People, especially kids, want to have some sort of thing to be apart of.

the future of music is normies and casuals streaming music online or pirating it, and hardcore fans who want something physical buying expensive vynal as a novelty to own something. musicians getting more famous for being a meme and having twitter followers than making good music. most likely bought a bunch of bots. people reviewing their music from a basement on youtube, music catered to you through AI and algorithms. the worst music and people on the planet getting famouse because plebes stream them.

The album must be shit if the music doesn't give you the experience itself. Fuck off with this "MUH EXPERIENCE" bullshit

Normies have always listened to mainstream shitty pop. If you are a hardcore music listener, you would be searching for music. In fact with bandcamp, soundcloud and spotify, you have extremely easy access to very obscure music and artists. And they sometimes sell vinyls and cassettes. we are living in the best era for a music fan, but you are too fucking braindead to see it just because of a fucking format

Damn, I like buying CDs for certain albums. Most of the good places for music closed down and I'm left with a comic store by me that happens to have a good vinyl and cd selection, but I guess concerts and amazon will be my go to places for CD's now.

>if the music doesn't give you the experience itself.
How is that even possible unless you're beaming the music directly into your brain or reading the score and bringing it to life in your own brilliant mind. You're always listening through some medium and each one has implications on your listening experience, even if you refuse to think about them.

>I think by the end of the 2020's physical media will be completely gone. and maybe at best you can buy some novelty vynal.
i doubt this'll happen, but good post

if the format is what determines the experience, you need to stop listening to music seriously. I doubt during the production of the album, a musician though "I hope the listener plays this music on vinyl to get the full experience".

Jack white has done this and many other artists

youre a retard if you play video games

This. Imagine having no commitments or duties, so much so that you can sit and play a game for hours a day. It's fucking sad

Who the fuck buys CDs in 2018 AHAHAHA

And refuse to learn how a computer works. Even when you offer to order it for them in store they’ll refuse and leave as if any competing stores exist with their niche item.

>we are living in the best era for a music fan
This one thousand perfuckingcent, anyone who doesn't see it has their head in the sand

>Normies have always listened to mainstream shitty pop
Yes, but the number of quality mainstream pop songs was higher then than now. the artists that were able to transition from being "alternative" into the mainstream doesn't happen as much anymore. When was the last time you heard Radiohead, Flaming Lips, Beck, Portishead, REM, Butthole Surfers, Meat Puppets, Morrissey, New Order, and more played on Top 40 pop radio?

Surprised it took this long. Was slightly depressing to see the section dwindle over the years.

Back when they had a real music department, I got a lot of '90s electronic music, Penderecki Naxos CDs, the odd alt rock album, and the odd dadrock album. One or two rap albums as well.

just about very news outlet was stating how they would be removed by stores by 2013 so it was a big surprise hey stayed until now. musicians apparently make more off cd's then they do through downloads so I'm curious how they will adapt.

>When was the last time you heard Radiohead, Flaming Lips, Beck, Portishead, REM, Butthole Surfers, Meat Puppets, Morrissey, New Order, and more played on Top 40 pop radio?
This has never happened before

But will they be selling vinyl?

>Radiohead, Flaming Lips, Beck, Portishead, REM, Butthole Surfers, Meat Puppets, Morrissey, New Order, and more played on Top 40 pop radio
How many of these artists had a Top 40 pop hit?

Vinyl has analogue sound as a gimmic, with cds you might as well listen to it on your phone.

>analogue sound is a gimmic
kek

Not all technically charted in the "Top 40" of the Hot 100, but most got close enough that they were picked up by Top 40 pop stations anyway. Especially if the single had been a big hit on alternative stations and MTV.

Nice backpedaling

0.0001% of vinyl records are made with analog equipment

At least seven of them are ones you'll hear on the radio

Off the top of my head:

Radiohead - Creep
Beck - Loser
New Order - True Faith

How were records made before computers?

How is that backpedaling? I very clearly stated "Top 40 pop radio" in my original post Which was one of the primary methods of consuming music for free btw.

Learn to read retard

As he said, top 40 stations play more than music that charted in the top 40. That criteria only came from you.

>How many of these artists had a Top 40 pop hit?
REM has had like 10 you imbecile

so... only three?
>I very clearly stated "Top 40 pop radio" in my original post
And I very clearly asked which one of those artists had Top 40 pop hits, and you had to change your argument in order to answer.
So... only one.
Irrelevant

>so... only three?
>So... only one.

That's four you idiot.

>I made up a new point and you're not defending it
Yes, that sounds about right

>Irrelevant

Hmm... let's see.
>Pop stations play popular (upward trending songs) because this is how singles rise into the Top 40.
>song played by radio doesn't quite make it into the Top 40 of the Hot 100
>"HURR NOT A REAL HIT"

Not everybody went out and bought CD or cassette singles.

Meat Puppets and Morrisey both ended up on the Billboard Mainstream Top 40 airplay charts in '94

so... only four? And three of the four only had one hit, twenty years ago?
Correct. What's the problem?
I don't think you know what a hit is.

the first time i ever saw a postrock CD was at a bestbuy in the 2000s

>only had one hit, twenty years ago?

>the artists that were able to transition from being "alternative" into the mainstream doesn't happen as much anymore. When was the last time you heard Radiohead, Flaming Lips, Beck, Portishead, REM, Butthole Surfers, Meat Puppets, Morrissey, New Order, and more played on Top 40 pop radio?

Yes we were talking about the past. Very good dipshit

If they actually transitioned into the mainstream, wouldn't we still be hearing them?

Try again cupcake

Mainstream artists tend to have very short shelf lives. Not to mention that wave "alternative rock" was pretty much abandoned by the late 90s.

Also who doesn't know R.E.M.

The other decades were just as good if you had a little money. Just buy albums, go to library for free old shit that you wouldn't quite want to buy like ZZ Top, have a garage or den for storage, napster library could be had for a couple grand.

I guess its still cheaper but you have the tradeoff of worse music.

I could swear to God Beck had a top 40 hit in the last 5 years like Morning Phase or Wow?

All of them except the Meat Puppets here in the UK

So REM was the only alternative artist to fully become mainstream? Doesnt sound like much.

>I could swear to God Beck had a top 40 hit in the last 5 years like Morning Phase or Wow?
No. Morning Phase won a Grammy but it wasn't a hit
>here in the UK
Irrelevant

>Running away with the goalposts
Oh, you!

[citation needed]

I would say the only artist on that list to truly become mainstream was REM. They had a great number of sheer popular hits like "Losing My Religion", "Man in the Moon", "Everybody Hurts", etc.

The rest are niche artists who miraculously had a hit in an era were that was allowed. The industry culture that took chances and signed/promoted risk-taking artists pretty much died by the end of the 90s. There's an interesting biography about the Flaming Lips called Starting AT Sound, which goes into detail about the differences in industry./major label culture, how they essentially owed their career to a label exec who took a chance, and this whole generation of real music-lovers was replaced by a generation of accountants

>I don't know what retard will claim that vinyl quality is better than CD
Mostly Reddit and autistic audiophiles.

>autistic audiophiles.
Oh you mean people who would know more than you?

Not too surprised, record stores have always been better when it comes to inventory and price for CDs.

>who the fuck even goes into to Best Buy for anything at all.
Because Amazon occasionally fucks up on preorders
and Amazon sometimes have reasonable prices on music boxsets or tv series boxsets

Pretty much. Anyone remember the presidents of the united states? Songs like lump and peaches?