Stop listening to Paul's granny shit

Stop listening to Paul's granny shit

thats john lennon

thats the point, john called pauls music granny shit

Your wife made better music than you.

No.

Paul's granny shit > George's indian weeb shit > John's pseudo pacifist shit

Honey pie, you are making me crazy :)

At least John had a fucking message. Paul just sang about boring shit and George....well fuck George, that LARPing as an Indian motherfucker

John had so much more soul in him, too bad he was fucked up. Mind Games has my favorite hook of all time, that shit makes me cry EVERY time. It's so fucking amazing, but then he ruins the song with his Yoko ramblings
>peace on earth lalala
YEAH WE GET IT DUDE YOU'RE HIPPIE AND SHIT, BUT FUCK YOU JUST RUINED AN AMAZING SONG MOTHERFUCKER
SOMEONE STAB THAT GOOK TO DEATH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SHE'S SUCKING HIS LIFE FORCE

Paul: patrician who appreciates all forms of music
other Beatles: plebs who dismiss all western music before muh rock an rull as granny music

Music is infinitely more important than lyrics.

In that case, John had a wider variety of unique music, while Paul made showtunes and George made ragas. There's no denying John was the ultimate Beatles, the driving force that made them the best band ever. I wish you contrarians would quit fooling around.

>YOU'RE HIPPIE
>racist
>homophobic
>misogynist

i don't get your point

That's John Lemon...

How do I into Lennon's solo work?

"granny shit" = anything that isn't 12 bar blues

You listen to it

you mean all those screams and cries?

>implying I ever started
I don't listen to your shitty suburbian wanker contrarianism either, though, you fucking hack.

>you'll never punish Yoko Ono's vice-like pussy and make her scream and cry onto a record
>she'll never stalk you the rest of your life in a desperate bid for another go at your monster cock
I'm okay with this feel though.

>John
Few key changes
Standard 12 bar blues
Folk Rock
Psych pop
Sound collage
Yoko going WOOOP WOOOOP EEEEP

>Paul
Constant key changes
Standard 12 bar blues
Folk Rock
Psych pop
Baroque Pop
Music Hall
Progressive Pop
Tin Pan Alley
Symphonic Rock
Heavy Metal
Disco
Synthpop
New Wave
Ambient
Classical Music

Go through your dad's vinyl.

John was the superior songwriter for a while, but Paul usurped him from Revolver on.

why did he say this and then say harry nilsson was his favorite musician? lol

Quads checked.

There's only 10 years of Lennon solo work. Pick an album, any album.

at least he didn't write it's only love

Does anyone have the white album meme that’s just the cover with “and Paul’s granny shit”

I saw this documentary about The Beatles awhile back, and it was all Paul wankery. Shit about Paul being the experimental front-runner, the hip cat out there exploring subcultures, while Lennon just chilled at home in the suburbs. Like, man, so fucking what if Paul couldn't sit his safe ass still and had to show up everywhere something new was happening if he just kept doing the same granny shit regardless. What a fucking poser.

Nvm found it

Yeah. That totally detracts from the quality of Paul's music.

kek

No, it just means he's as boring as everyone knows no matter how many experimental people he tried to hang out with, but dull granny poser that he is he'll never understand that himself.

...

Who else from that era did Tin Pan Alley and Music Hall?

The content of Lennon's music is a million times more important than McCartney's. Ideologically it's right up there with All Things Must Pass. Paul's solo music is flippant and valueless, which is fine, it's fun music, but don't ever try to place Paul at the same level of intellect as John or George.

Literally nobody because that shit was already granny music by the time Paul got his soft hands on it.

Nice pseud opinion. It's all pop music. Paul was just better at it than the others. Not even in the same league. All Things Must Pass is pretty boring btw. Easily the most overrated album with a Beatle's name on it. Unless you like meandering Grateful Dead tier jamming.
You're right. They should've ONLY played rawk.

Paul was the leading force behind most of their best albums tho
I like John better as a songwriter solo and with the Beatles but that’s just objective truth. Pepper and Abbey Road were his ideas.

Once you eliminate the lyrical content of their music, you'll realize how incredibly boring Lennon's music was.

>You're right. They should've ONLY played rawk.
Should've played less granny shit, definitely.

Well, Sgt Pepper (and Revolver) were Brian Wilson's idea, and Abbey Road was George Martin's idea.

Which songs are you referring to specifically?

And what do you have to eliminate to make Paul's music more than boring granny shit? The entirety of the Western music canon.

Right. I forgot that Paul totally sat those albums out instead of writing the songs on them.

I listen to the instrumental track of Jealous Guy often. It's beautiful. Also, lyrics and singing are part of the music. What is the basis for the argument that taking lyrics out clarifies the listener's ability to understand the music?

Are you a musician? I mean actually skilled in an instrument? Writing poetry and playing scales on an acoustic guitar doesn't count.

Perhaps you haven't spent enough time listening to Paul's solo material then. A song like Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey features more key and tempo changes than Lennon utilized in his entire career.

Show us your own music credentials before you demand them from others, y'know?

What do you want to see? My pianist licence?

Sure, or post your soundcloud.

>soundcloud
Are you fucking stupid?

That is my favorite song, out of all of Paul McCartney's solo music. The Back Seat of My Car is great too. Ram is a pretty good album. It's fun music though. Meaningless and frivolous.

Lennon and McCartney wrote an equal number of songs on Revolver, and while McCartney wrote one more song than Lennon on Sgt. Pepper, McCartney was lifting ideas from Brian Wilson. Lennon was original. He wrote the best parts of A Day in the Life, which are the best parts of the album.

You better have some credentials to show us after demanding I show you mine, punk.

What makes Ram meaningless and frivolous and All Things Must Pass such a deep, meaningful album? Feel free to disregard lyrical content, because that has nothing to do with tone and timbre.

>Feel free to disregard lyrical content
Every Paulfag ever.

There's that blatantly fallacious "disregard the lyrics" argument. Don't know how you can call that a good argument, friend. And so I will not play along with it. George Harrison is a more pleasant vocalist to listen to than Paul McCartney. Also, the music on All Things Must Pass is atmospheric and glorious. Very spiritual. Almost sacred. The instrumental for Let It Roll is mystical. Ram's music is good, because it's played by a good band, but it's just blues rock and quirky baroque pop or pop ballads for the most part.

So again, totally subjective. Gotcha.

Because the shit you arbitrarily decided is objective totally isn't just as subjective.

I never once said Paul's output was objectively better. It is a cold hard fact that Paul McCartney is a more versatile musician than the other three.

>100 variations of granny shit is versatility
Give me a musician who can play two different kinds of music over one who can play 100 kinds of the same shit. Better yet, give me one who can play one kind and kill it. Anyone can dabble.

By the way, how do you feel about Neil Young?

A more versatile songwriter. Not a perfect musician. His vocal quality isn't that great. He has a lilting, wimpy voice. When he screams it's kind of funny, but can sound good in the right mood. And he's an average instrumentalist.

I prefer George and Ringo over John and Paul any day.

But yet when George plays his Indian stuff, it's all of the sudden inspired and spiritual. Get real man.

Ray Davies, in all honesty.
>Sgt. Pepper's and Revolver were Brian Wilson's idea
Then you might as well claim that Pet Sounds and Smile are McCartney's idea, knobhead.

I am not a Neil Young fan.

>Ray Davies
I'll give you that one.

Indian music is spiritual the same way gospel is, it's the whole point of the music. Fucking music hall isn't spiritual.
Do you that he's objectively a better musician than Paul, since his genre hopping was far wider?

Brian Wilson was inspired by the Beatles to make Pet Sounds, but he did not use any aspects or ideas of Rubber Soul in Pet Sounds. Paul McCartney took Pet Sounds' ideas and made his baroque pop granny shit on Pepper and Revolver. Brian Wilson had the ideas for Smile first. Paul McCartney visited him in the studio a few times and heard Smile in production. McCartney is the celery chewing heard on Vega-Tables. He and John Lennon also heard early versions of Good Vibrations.

McCartney is the celery chewing of music.

Consider the fact The Beatles were experimenting with baroque pop back in Help!, with things like Yesterday and You've Got To Hide Your Love Away, and in Rubber Soul there's things like Michelle, Girl and in particular In My Life, as well as the mid section of We Can Work It Out. Then you have his tape experiments in Revolver (tape collages in Yellow Submarine; the reversed guitar solo in I'm Only Sleeping; the reversed ending in Rain; the tape loop of Tommorrow Never Knows).

Wilson and Lennon-McCartney were constantly taking ideas from one another. He wasn't just inspired - he took several ideas and concepts from them. To take Wilson to the point of apotheosis is because "he was such a genius he didn't take concepts from The Beatles" is fucking bollocks.

Paul >>>>>>>>>>>> John > George = Ringo

Yeah, but Brian Wilson is better at instrumentals and melody.

Be honest, do you wear a vest over a shirt that's tucked inside your pants?

Wrong on both accounts.

I would if it were in vogue negro.

The Beatles never beat Don't Worry Baby or In the Back of My Mind in their rock period, and they never beat Good Vibrations or Heroes and Villains in their psychedelic period.

>heavy metal

what?

That's a good song though

>Helter Skelter is by Paul?

>Helter Skelter is heavy metal

>Heltuh Skeltuh is le 1st hebby medul sawng

>helter skelter
>heavy metal

slightly overdriven power chords does not constitute heavy metal

Can you name a more abrasive rock song from 1968 or prior? The only thing that comes close is Blue Cheer, but theyre still more bluesy than the straight up intensity of Helter Skelter.

I Can See for Miles by the Who

>The Beatles never beat Don't Worry Baby or In the Back of My Mind in their rock period
Are you goddamn kidding me? Almost every single The Beatles had during that period are better than those. Of course Wilson has always had a great sense of harmony and melody, but even during their poppy era The Beatles injected a sense of grit, groove and performative confidence into their material that The Beach Boys never had. I'll agree with you on the psych period but as far as who was the superior "rock" group there isn't even a fucking comparison.

>rock period
They beat them with things like I'm A Loser, I Feel Fine, Yes It Is, You Won't See Me and In My Life. Oh, and Yesterday..
>psychedelic period
I Am The Walrus, A Day In The Life, Tomorrow Never Knows and Strawberry Fields Forever beat Good Vibrations and Heroes and Villains quite handly. For more off the beaten path tracks - Flying, Magical Mystery Tour, Fixing a Hole and Good Morning Good Morning all are better.
Not even close, dude, and I love The Who. Maybe Boris the Spider. If anything, The Who's stuff only got really abrasive live.

Nope. Those four songs from those two periods in the Beach Boys' musical development outmatch any song by the Beatles. They're just superior pieces of music in their respective forms.

Nope, The Beatles were far better than The Beach Boys in pretty much all senses. Especially rhythm, The Beatles were head and shoulders better than The Beach Boys' rhythmically.

Good Vibrations and Heroes and Villains are better than all of them. All because of the music too. Brian Wilson was simply a more inventive and intuitive songwriter. He really shouldn't have trusted McCartney being in the studio with him.

Okay well, not only is this not true, it's not even that meaningful. Brian Wilson was intentionally trying to avoid making songs for dancing. Kind of like the Beatles, but Brian used lots of rhythmic changes in his music, rather than just making it really slow and classical-sounding. Good Vibrations and Heroes and Villains are great examples of it, as a matter of fact. The closest the Beatles came was Strawberry Fields Forever and A Day in the Life.

Also, I would say that, rhythmically, neither McCartney nor Lennon were that great, and George Harrison was the true genius, comparable to Wilson. He had an intuitive understanding of highly complex Indian classical music and performed it virtuosically.

They were both completely fucked.
John had a good approach to true rock'n'roll, but he was too fuckin loony with yoko to actually hold up any of the ideals of it. Too much of an insane hippy bastard.
Literally Paul and George made better music than him by and large, sorry John.

>Georgefag
Another way of saying "hipster that's never listened to Wings."

kek

>He's never heard Travelling Wilburys

I can understand the others but if you seriously think Don't Worry Baby and In the Back of My Mind outmatch any Beatles song you should get your ears checked.

Dude you are such a meme obsessed faggot, you're going to have to say something other than "granny shit" eventually to make an argument.

But I have.

>the traveling wilburys are good
>wings arent the direct continuation and maturation of the beatles' sound