/rac/ - Rock Against Communism General

Rock against communism thread?
I'd like to find some more punk/oi bands that are patriotic and not estrogen enriched nu-males. The only RAC band I'm familiar with is Better Dead Than Red, but honestly, I've heard better bands that were leftyniggers.

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Iinb4 the that one user who's autistic about RAC

I got one fuhya

>>KINO

i'm surprised you haven't listened to skrewdriver. they're the definitive rac band

I like just discovered RAC today. Thanks though, I'll look them up.

Every sane person is against communism, RAC is just an excuse to be a white supremacist trash

>every sane person is against communism
Yeah, but we're talking about the punk rock scene here

>Every sane person is against communism

>Every sane person is against communism
t. literally knows 0.0 about communist thought, but heard something about muh 20 gorillion and le ebil stalin

>the USA, Canada, Europe, Japan, and Australia don't count

please go back to pol, we dont want you here

no one cares what you want

Look faggots communism is a failed 19th century ideology. It simply isn't applicable to the 21st century.

Socialism did such great things for my countr...oh wait, it's why we had breadlines and police arresting you for listening to rock music.

>capitalism in these countries could be "successfull" without exploiting nature and workers in the Third World
>there's also nothing wrong with imperialism, unemployment and other outcomes of capitalism
Any source/argument whatsoever?

I'm glad shitlibs do stuff like this, turns everyone against them.

The lack of proof of success of communism is all the evidence you need.

>capitalist nation since 1776
>unemployment just now becoming a problem
>it's capitalism's fault
The absolute STATE of leftist politics

Nations where capitalism's survived so far because it exported its dangerous low-pay jobs to poorer nations at the same pace that its own working class organized and refused to be exploited the same way.

Yes, I agree, globalism is the problem.

Now I understand the whole real communism hasn't bee tired, i myself used to be a commie. My family are trotskyists and i used to consider myself a commie. I understand that Lenin advocated for "international socialism" and Starlin changed the ussr's direction.

My whole view is that if socialism is supposed to precede communism. And that every time socialism has been applied with this goal it has resulted in failure. So if that doesn't work communism definitely would not work, prehaps collectivism can work on a small scale but its no way to run a country. I think the idea that the only alternative to socialism is capitalism is a dogmatic black and white view. In reality there are other options.

What do you expect me to reply to a vague non-argument like this? It's obvious capitalism has failed to be successful so far too. It's also obvious communist states, while far from perfect, have succeeded in a lot of goals capitalist states never have when it comes to equality, education, housing, etc.

>equality
Yeah, they made everyone equally poor
>education
Like banning the study of genetics?
>housing
Yeah, they reduced everybody to living in shacks

You can't have capitalism without globalism, it's not competitive enough, you'd have to rely on other capitalists not uniting across borders to bring fascists states under its international thumb.

Hey, I'm sure education failed you, no argument here.

Hey, is anybody going to post any more music recommendations, or should I just keep trying to override the youtube algorithm?

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Yah like I'd say that if I was going to get shot in jail because I'm too selfish to be in a government

Kek, it's so fucking typical that the commies in a thread are the ones giving arguments and the anti-commies just resort to dumb memes and ad hominems. I'm out

Brazil?
Puerto Rico?
There's some nicer African cities I don't remember names though

>damage control 101

lol nigger

Hey faggot read my post.
I'm making an argument and you are a coward if you don't respond.

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communism won't happen until complete automation which won't happen due to capitalist greed

*Jewish greed
Ftfy

Well there are other options but they are still either capitalism or communism, just with features of the other one implemented. Or what did you have in mind?
And I see your point, but the more I look into it the more I think the socialist states that have existed so far haven't failed that badly. I'd say suppression of freedom of speech has been a major issue but that's not somehow inherent to communism.

Stalin was pretty much completely evil, and I say that as someone who thinks the Holodomor wasn't intentional and instead a result of natural famine, the war, incompetence, and being in the middle of agricultural reform. Stalin was nothing but a bandwagon-jumping imperialist autocrat and sociopath who murdered anyone he suspected might someday be a threat to his power. The gulags were an old Russian way of dealing with prisoners, and nowhere near as bad as bullshit propaganda or pure lies and hearsay like The Gulag Archipelago would have them. Post-Stalin Soviet was certainly not defined by Stalin's policies, however. If communism is going to ever become relevant in a developed nation again, Stalin must be denounced as the shitbird he was. Russia was not a nation with a class-conscious proletariat, it was a nation of uneducated serfs whose revolution was hijacked by an elite that failed to artificially create the class consciousness necessary for meeting its own revolutionary goals.

Oh sure, I agree with a lot of what you think about Stalin. It's just kinda ridiculous to denounce him completely because of his "ebil" dictatorship and not take a look at what he accomplished economically. There's no debating he was paranoid and oppressive as hell though, I'm not a tankie.

Well i think what weed need is a system that is the most efficient. We need to look at these things logically and choose what works. I think that we need to value liberty more than the government's of today do. People should trade freely, I'd legalise drugs get rid of licensing laws. But still have a framework of regulations that save people from corporate abuse. I do think something like universal basic income is better than current welfare systems and there needs to be investment in public services.

I think the only reason why the economy isn't liberalised is because the greedy few want the wealth for them and their ilk, not for the rest of us. I would have these people shot. And I'd cramp down on corruption, its corruption that leads to oppression.

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I didn't realize that you could have cringe threads on Sup Forums

90% of what you said sounds pretty marxist to me.

I don't particularly ascribe to the idea that lots of people couldn't have done better than Stalin to industrialize Russia, considering how many competent people he murdered who might've helped the industrialization immensely. If anything I'd cite the rapid industrialization as an example of what can be done without capitalist influence despite major autocratic purges of competent individuals.

Sure kid

He's right, but then again nobody cares what he wants either.

Yeah it is somewhat in the vain of that. But I'm all for free trade and commerce. Gambling, street selling, any kinda of trade people want to engage in I am all for. So long as enough revenue to pay for public services is there i wouldn't be too tough on tales. I'd like to see the majority of people running their own businesses. It's all about Smashing the corrupt greedy corporate system and givens people the most liberty.

*too tough on taxes.

>Brazil
Don't meme me, I live here, free market capitalism only makes us worst and everytime we try to have some sweet sweet wellfare state the USA helps the rulling class make a coup here

>Teach to read
The big empires all had comunication tools for long distances. And Mayas had wrriten language.
>Canibalism
First of all it's antropophagy not canibalism, canibalism as movies shows simply do not exist, they manly sacrifice enemy soldiers or passed relatives, HUMAN GROUPS NEVER USE CANIBALISM AS A EVERYDAY THING.
Also in europe there was canibalism as a survive tool during harsh times
>Sacrifice
REALLY? The spanish state kill thousand of people for religious reasons.

Also, it was largely Stalin's fault that Soviet suffered so much under Nazi Germany's invasion, since he disregarded all the warning about Hitler's actions close to Soviet's borders, although his theory that it was British intelligence trying to coax Soviet and Germany into war wasn't completely stupid up until it became truly obvious towards the end. Not to mention his purges within the military. Even if one thinks Stalin did great with the industrialization he engaged in, it would've gone much faster and smoother without his personal fuck-ups before and during the war.

>antropophagy is not cannibalism
>the mesoamericans had communication tools for long distance
>human sacrifice and killing suspected traitors are the same thing
Your stupidity is giving me a headache

Is that because it forces you to think a little since you don't have another anime meme to post for the occasion?

nice argument, fag

You didn't provide much of an argument to counter, did you now?

I didn't have to. I just had to point out your retarded assertions.

Fuck you, we don't even have a free market, if you ever try to start your own business here they wil tax you to the last penny and push tons of bureaucracy shit at you. If anything, it's the government's fault that we live in this shit situation.

They weren't mine, I'm

communist rock is way better than anti communist rock. Listen to Henry Cow you faggots.

>Brazil
>free market economy
HA HA HA HA HA HA

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There's no capitalism in the countries he's talking about.

>and not take a look at what he accomplished economically
He bought factories from Western companies hoping to make a fast buck. Read up about guys like Armin Hammer who were early investors in the Soviet Union, also Henry Ford built automobile plants there.

I thought neo nazis hated cops too?

Why would you think that?

isn't brazil literally pic related, the country?

>shitty /r/the_donald numeme
>what is HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
Lurk moar, faget.

I'm aware of that meme too friend. also the_donald is civnat BASED black guy tier