How do liberals respond to the fact that Muslims

>participated vigorously in the African slave trade
>started multiple empires and countless wars
>committed more genocides against other peoples and themselves than any other group in the history of earth
>were never oppressed or colonized

It really... well, makes you think, does it not?

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Those weren't REAL Muslims you idiot!

First two points are by no means unique to Muslims and the last two are just plain false.

Try again.

name a group that has committed more genocide. name a time when they were oppressed/colonized.

Its called doublethink. We have to accept that liberals dont use logic in their rhetoric or theorizing and move on from there. Attempting to use sources and names and dates simply does not work.

but they're anti-Western! how can you not support anti-Western ideologies when the current year is 2016?

mental illness

>name a group that has committed more genocide
Mongols

>name a time when they were oppressed/colonized.
The African colonial carve up, and Israel.

Muslim countries weren't ever colonized?

lol

>by no means unique to Muslims

And yet you'll keep on criticizing Western society when Islam is throwing gays off rooftops, treating women like serfs, and amputating the female equivalent of the glans penis.


Because we all know what leftism is really about: hating Western society almost as much as you hate yourself.

>Muslims weren't colonized
wut

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The Jews owned most of those slave ships... ackchyually.

Bullshit Mongols genocided more. List me the genocides they committed and then those of the Muslim world and let's see what comes out on top. You're about to be embarrassed hard.

African colonial carve up is literally not a term. Be more specific. Israel is not an example of oppression.

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This op is how they usually respond. They deflect and then spew stupidity and ignorance.

>List me the genocides they committed
Are you even familiar with the mongols?

>African colonial carve up is literally not a term. Be more specific.
The 19th century creation of different nation-states by European powers in the African continent.

>Israel is not an example of oppression.
see pic

They'll just tell you to "educate yourself" and to "read the Koran."

So you gave up then? You didn't provide an example of Mongol genocide, you argued that something unrelated to most of the Muslim world was an example of Muslim oppression, and you are pretending Israel is oppressing Muslims. By the way, what percentage of Israel is Muslim? Do you know this?

they don't. they pretend like it didn't happen and genuinely delude themselves into believing it didn't. They will blame the crusades or start yelling about bigotry and Islamophobia.

Leave troll

OMG, CHRISTIANS WERE JUST AS BAD 500 YEARS AGO!!!

REMEMBER THE CRUSADES?!? THEY TRIED TO KILL ALL THE PEACEFUL MUSLIMS AND TAKE THEIR LAND!!!

the jews bought the slaves from arabs

> implying moslems didnt do any genocides
the jews in the entire fucking moslem world 700 ad to present
the armenians
non moslem negroes in north africa
spain under the ummayads
the entire west asian region
hindus in pah kee stahn
the kurds
any rival tribal group in west asia that didnt join up
other arabs
etc etc etc

> implying the moslems didnt colonize africa too

> implying radical arab insurgent squatters in a military occupation zone are citizens of israel and thus subject to apartheid

retardation level: Maximum!

Ted Kaczynski was right when he said that leftists downplay terrible things done by none western white people and exaggerate what white westerners have done. This shit happens all the type in literally every argument you can think of with the left. Its like an innate aspect of leftism that you have to do this. Makes you wonder why and what the ultimate goal of it all is.

>false, the blacks who were sold off were Muslim
>empires cause was by definition
>oppressed by European colonization
you are retarded and take things out of your ass OP

>never oppressed or colonized

I am guessing the British sent their empire to hold hands and sing songs in India and due to pure coincidence it split up into two countries leaving an eternal conflict over borders that were drawn by British Lords who simply wanted to wash their hands off this place and go home.

What the fuck am I reading?

>Mongols
>Genocide
I don't think wanting all to submit and killing when they don't fits the definition of Genocide...
Muslims want to wipe Jews (A specific people off the face of the earth, no exceptions).
Mongols would spare you if you surrendered, Mongols never wanted to end a society, they were conquerors, not genocidal.

>How do liberals respond to

No not ever try to target them with logic. They do not respond to anything, they have high levels of cognitive dissonance and will just fling shit at you.

>I don't think wanting all to submit and killing when they don't fits the definition of Genocide...
Look up the definition of genocide

>Muslims want to wipe Jews (A specific people off the face of the earth, no exceptions).
Historically false, and Islamically inaccurate, regardless of the supposed current muslim majority viewpoint

>Mongols would spare you if you surrendered, Mongols never wanted to end a society, they were conquerors, not genocidal.

How were muslims different?

They are like Muslims they cannot reason and must be shown by force that they are wrong

This is why the rightwing nationalist states must crush them and the immigrants and why it will they simply cannot live in any sort of civil society

You've had sovereignty for over 50 years so either fix your problems with India like big boys or fuck off and stop blaming other countries for your problems.

That is another issue. The claim that we were never oppressed or taken advantage of is false.

Mongols were Muslims, user.

white people dindunuffin

Some were, and not originally.

Most were by the mid 1300's.

They just ignore it which is why they malfunctioned when a muslims shot up a gay bar.

Do Muslims not force oppression on themselves through the voluntary act of Jihad?

Muslims had previously conquered much of India so the current conflict on religious lines lies at their door step. Unfortunately, the Mughals are currently unavailable for gibs.

But yes, I will agree that Muslims were conquered and sometimes that can hurt feelings.

they think dying in in battle even if it means blowing themselves up is an automatic ticket to heaven

>even if it means blowing themselves up
And that's where they'd be wrong

Your definition of genocide seems really broad...