/nfl/ general: 10-6 Rams edition

DAL:Florio: 'Very good chance' Zeke plays Week 1
DET:Lions lock Matt Stafford up at 5 years, $135M
SEA:C.J. Prosise returns to Seahawks practice
NYJ:Bowles talks up Bryce Petty's improvement
SEA:Seahawks DE Clark visiting wrist specialist
DAL:Hitchens undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery
BAL:Ravens give John Harbaugh contract extension
NYJ:Jets end charade, confirm McCown will start
CLE:Hue Jax: DeShone Kizer will have long leash
JAC:Leonard Fournette ramping up practice reps
CHI:Cameron Meredith has torn ACL, 'other damage'
DET:Eric Ebron finally back at Lions practice

Why does the NFC suck so bad compared to the AFC?

>'Very good chance' Zeke plays Week 1

The delusion.

AFC only has the Patriots

Dolphins will win AFC East

Pats, Steelers, Broncos, Raiders, Bengals and Chiefs are going to be good teams this year and will probably handle any team in the NFC reliably. Maybe even the Dolphins.

Does DeShone Kizer legitimately have any decent weapons? How's his O-Line?

I see him as very roughly equivalent in talent to Dak Prescott. However I don't think the team is set up the same way, or anywhere near as good as the Cowboys.

So yeah, another Cleveland QB bites the dust?

Also whatever happened to RG3?

in your wildest dreams (or 2037, whichever comes first)

Not even a Dolphins fan but they legitimately can have the best offense this year in the NFL and you probably think that sounds ridiculous but just watch.

They have Jay Cutler as their QB. They aren't going anywhere except second place and maybe a WC berth. Big maybe.

Like I said just watch. It's not going to be so funny when you guys lose the division to Cutler and I'm not just saying it as a meme. You can cap this and post it if I'm wrong in the future but as I said you'll end up seeing for yourself.

>Bengals
>Chiefs
>Broncos
Nigger stop

Bengals will be good until they hit postseason if they make it and I unironically believe Denver will end the season with another owl.

What delusion? If Zeke takes it to court and gets a restraining order to delay the suspension he'll play week 1 until the lawsuit is finished then after that he'll get suspended if he doesn't win the lawsuit.

The news is that Zeke is planning to sue the NFL and is ready to do it if they don't drop the suspension or reduce it, and even if they reduce it he may still sue. If you think about it the Cowboys schedule is hard at first, then lets up, then it gets hard again. So it's best so delay the suspension at first, drop the case in the middle of the season and take the suspension while the team can handle him being gone, then finish the end of the season before or first game of the playoffs.

What a shit general. They gonna lose two times to the niners again? Hahahaha lmao
>Yfw you can't beat the worst team in football twice but still think your teams playoff appearance is just around the corner

>I unironically believe Denver will end the season with another owl
Ah yes, with the elite Trevor Siemian

They're getting a veteran QB because Lynch got hurt. If it's anybody who can play above average or even if Trevor plays decent I don't see any team that could reliably beat the Broncos right now.

So if I filter tripfags, does that mean they win?

Is he as bad as Peyton or Brock when they made the owl? Is that offensive the the worst in the NFL still? Do they have the worst coaching in the NFL anymore? The only reason they didn't win another owl last year is because everything stated above and even at that point they were still winning the majority of their games until CJ Anderson went down. You're really going to underestimate them again?

It means you no longer have to view pure cancer and you have a more enjoyable time using Sup Forums so you're the winner.

Because they did so great last year

Dolphins and Bengals aren't really on the "will probably handle any team in the NFC" level. If you're going to count them as good teams then the NFC has a lot of teams of the equal "good but I wouldn't bet money on them" quality. Bengals especially are trash.

> Does DeShone Kizer legitimately have any decent weapons? How's his O-Line?

He's had good rapport with Coleman and considering they put like 8 mill on Britt and a 1st round pick on that tight end guy he should be alright. The o-line is good on paper and has been good in the preseason as well imo.

> I don't think the team is set up the same way, or anywhere near as good as the Cowboys.

It isn't. But the defense has looked good with Greg Williams running it (albeit preseason) and there's some pieces on the offense as well and Hue Jackson running it, so he's in a decent position to get his career going.

> Also whatever happened to RG3?

Nigga ded.

>How's his O-Line
Good. Like really good. Good RBs and good to manageable WR with an athletic as all hell TE

Did you not listen to what I said? It doesn't matter anyways. Preseason is only a peak at what's to come. Any game they score more than twenty points in this season they're going to win.

>is he as bad as Peyton
He's worse, dumbass. Even old and broken, Manning is leagues better than Siemian

No you're 100% wrong about that because in his last year he was playing in Kubiaks retarded system which made him 90% worse than being just old and broken. You don't put an old man under center running bootlegs with one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL.

The AFC West is objectively the best division in the NFL and no amount of your meme texting can change that.

Go Loins.

>AFC West is objectively the best division in the NFL
When will this meme die?

When it stops being true.

>California teams
>Good
>Dude Weed Lmao's team has been shit since Manning left
Only one deemed any sort of good is the Chefs. I'm sure you mean that the NFC East is the best division desu

>hurr things I don't like or disagree with are memes
Good contribution, autist.

>nfc east
literally only one good team with the cowboys and the rest are shit

You'll see. They actually play the AFC west this year and I'll bet the AFC west wins majority of the games.

And literally only one good team are the Chefs
>inb4 raidturds
Had to have Spics come in and help beat Houston last year.

gnats went 11-5 and beat the boys last season, pretty sure they aren't shit

I'm screencapping your comment for later after the season faggot. *click*

you're both retarded

raiders, chiefs, boys, and giants are good teams

broncos are a decent team

>his team is 0-3

First for Gronk

Broncos will win every game they score at least twenty points in this season and will most lily win the owl. If they end up picking up a veteran to replace an injured Paxton ill actually bet money on it irl and post my winnings.

I'm not talking out my ass either. I've done a lot of research and I almost guarantee the broncos are going to be the best team in the NFL this year and It's already starting. Unless Trevor is throwing pics like crazy or their new offensive system is somehow worse than last years which is very unlikely I have full confidence in my pick this season.

/ouryear/

Denver held all but two teams last year below thirty points and most below twenty with no help at all from the offense. This year they've fixed the line and hired a new offensive coordinator and aren't stuck with the worst head coach I've seen in my entire life. They've actually fixed a huge amount of the glaring problems they had and they might end up picking up a veteran quarterback now to replace Paxton as the backup and maybe even Trevor as the starter eventually. The only reason they didn't make the playoffs and maybe even the owl last year is because CJ went down and they just had no offense at all.

Also the defense is even better now.

Not with an overpaid QB like Stafford you're not

>this much delusion and homerism

Christ, Broncos fans are turning into the new Cowboys fans.

>Those stats
I mean if he was a 1,000 rusher or running back receiving I'd be convince but holy fuck are those bad numbers

The only reason anybody was even able to score anything on them is because they couldn't stop the run at all. That shouldn't be a problem this year or at least not even close to as bad as last year. I'm telling you user it's going to be a full season of domination. You won't believe me now but I'm very excited for this year especially because most brainwashed people think the Raiders are going to win the division this year. I honestly don't even think the Pats stand a chance against this team right now. I mean it's any given Sunday but they'd be at a disadvantage.

Are you dumb? as a packers fan I got to watch cutler twice a year, once every year in person. He is trash, He can't read a defense what so ever.

Joe Haden on tbe trade block if anyone wants the most overrated DB in the league

>DET:Lions lock Matt Stafford up at 5 years, $135M
>Lions make Stafford the highest paid player in the league
>ZERO Playoff wins
This shit doesn't make a lick of sense to me If Stafford doesn't win a Super Bowl making that kind of money, this is one of the biggest busts in history.

>his team is ringless and a laughing stock
Lmao

>Ravens are a shit after Ray Lewis and Ed Reed retired
I mean at least the other brother was consistent

Yea reject think about it. Our offense has been so bad that the defense and that horrific run game has been the entire offense. Denver might go undefeated this year. It's unlikely but very possible.

>taking an 0-16 team to the playoffs in three years
>bust

Stay mad, faggot

The Browns might go undefeated this year. It's unlikely but very possible.

>Denver might go undefeated this year. It's unlikely but very possible.
Even this much is forced hype. Step back, Denver may not even win its division.

Please direct your attention here

>biggest bust
>qb is the only player on his team

dude he plays for the lions and was drafted to the team that went 0-16, he was dealt a historically shit hand and the management didnt even really try to improve the team until the last couple years. Besides, name a better qb the Lions could get for less money. There is literally nobody to adequately replace him, so why give the team a shit qb right after they finally start to build a decent team? Of course he isn't worth the money, but the salary market and qb availability resulted in him getting paid.

>Vance Joseph, who I went to HS with, getting a ring
I'm ok with this

>in b4 you old
Nigga I know

Prescott might not get exposed for the OLine babby he is. It's unlikely but very possible

I'm thinking about the owl user. I guarantee 100% they win the division.

>went 9-7 last season
>Raiders AND Chefs went 12-4
>Denver winning the division
Why are you even lying on the internet?

You obviously didn't read anything I've posted in the thread but all the better. Watch your season slip away as a Raiders fan with hope in your heart game by game.

#77912905
No more (You)s for you, at least from me.

I fully believe there's no hope for Oakland to win the division. I wouldn't be saying all this embarrassing stuff that could come back to haunt me later if I was wrong if I wasn't almost 100% sure.

I think you missed the part about zero playoff wins, bud.

>looking at just the total yards
>not looking at the number of carries
if he had been given ~300 carries (like most top rbs get) he'd be siting around 1400 yds each full season.

I'm arguing with my m8 right now and I need assistance. Skill position players are more important than lineman in football, right? The offensive and defensive line is kinda just there, not important IMO.

Just the opposite, from what I've seen. Skill position players don't get a chance to do their things if you don't have good linemen blocking for them. Most successful teams build from the linemen outward to the skill positions. That goes for offense and defense.

and yet, the qb market is so shit that Stafford is the best bet for loins playoff hopes. Its not like it was his fault last year the lions secondary allowed a 70+% completion rate on passes and let case fucking keenum complete 27/32 for 321 yards and 3 tds, or that the oline couldnt block a stiff breeze.

Sup Forums is such a shitty site that it allows tripfags to exist and spread their aids. Only thing you can do is filter them (or try to dox them and light their houses on fire when their sleeping).
Anyway, trust me - once you filter them out this place becomes much more tolerable. Do yourself a favor.

>overrated
The guy is 5'9" and can guard big niggers like Antonio brown and obj
He's good, just not the best and he's never been overrated

Stfu. I'm trying to WIN the argument. If lineman are sooooooo important then how come jersey sales are all skills, and pretty much all the top ten players on top 100 are skills

>OBJ
>AB
>big

Small baller detected

Seriously though, Cutler's performance won't even matter at all if the dolphins defense stays the way it's been so far in the preseason

P...please get Joe haden

>If lineman are sooooooo important then how come jersey sales are all skills, and pretty much all the top ten players on top 100 are skills
That's 'cause fans (most of whom are filthy casuals) only care about the flashy stuff that skill players do; they either forget, downplay, or flat-out refuse to acknowledge the in-the-trenches work that linemen do which allows skill players to be so flashy. Also, moichandising companies make more money from casuals only buying skill position player jerseys. Not enough people buy lineman jerseys to wield influence in this regard.

Can't throw to receivers if you're sacked in micro seconds due to a bad line.

Can't run the ball if none of your linemen can push or pull a block.

Linemen are more important. A bad receiver can still catch the ball and a bad running back can still run. A bad linemen can't protect the quarterback.

I can jump higher than you, shorty

> imagine being this retarded

Anyone want him?

why are you being intentionally retarded?

>Can't throw to receivers if you're sacked in micro seconds due to a bad line.
exactly, see loins last couple of years, seahawks too (they are lucky wilson is so fast). I don't know how stafford is still alive he got crushed so many times

I can't name ONE nfl offensive lineman besides Tyrone Smith. I can name like 50 skills. Si skills must be better, they are more relevant and better=more relevant. Lineman are just fattys that push other fattys

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> I don't know a thing so it isn't important

Impeccable logic

Be interesting to see what they are asking for him, if a team can get him for cheap why not take him.

> (You)

Now you've stop trying all together

He's always been overrated as fuck

>giving honest, thoughtful answers to shitty, weakass bait
c'mon, man!

Not b8. Why do lineman get less fantasy points then skills

Because there are no definitive ways to quantify their job and thus they're not in Fantasy?

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> replying to the weakest bait in ages
Kys

Yes there are, how many sacks allowed, how much average time the qb gets and how many successful runs (over .5 yards a carry) and of course for centers how many missnaps

>having an argument is bad if they're pretending!

Fuck off, I'll argue all I want

You know i broke the news first, just saying.

>CHI:Cameron Meredith has torn ACL, 'other damage'
what the fuck is 'other damage'?