European Union

I can't believe that there's not even one positive thing said about the EU on Sup Forums

Yes, it has major flaws, but I can't believe you see no positives to it at all?

The EU is quite amazing if you think about it. It's an empire, but unlike the Roman Empire, it was created peacefully - no wars involved

And Europe was war ridden all history, the EU is is successful at keeping peace among the European nations

The EU does a LOT of good stuff to protect us against global, international predatory corporations, but that doesn't get a lot of media coverage... such as the recent roaming charges removal - which is great

Many will say :" hhuehuhuhueuhe of course you're pro -EU cuz ur SLovenian u get EU moneys heuehuehe"

Not fuck you, it's not that. I don't need any of your filthy snownigger money. First of all, Slovenia is EU average, so we neither give, nor receive.

Secondly, yes, as a Slovenian I'm pro EU but not because of money. Because I'm surrounded by Austra, Italy, Hungary, Croatia,.. and do you know how annoying it is to travel molested by border control

It facilitates trade, it facilitates movement of people.... Can we agree that there are positive things about the EU as well?

I agree with most of Sup Forums criticism but you guys make it so black and white, as if the EU is the root of all evil and without the EU it would all be lollipops and rainbows

Just look at other places in the world... would you rather be in USA, where you have to move into your car and careful not to break your leg if you lose your job cause they''ll leave you to die

I believe in the European Union, it's sick, but I want to heal it, not kill it, because nothing good can come out of its disintegration

The future of the world is China, India, USA, Brazil, Russia - wil lhave tremendous power, and if we are not united as a single entitiy to represent OUR interests and our values, do you think anyone wil lgive a shit about nothingburgers like Estonia, Latvia, even Finland? And even the UK

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it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Hallstein
youtube.com/watch?v=q94syUDDhxA
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IMF_ranked_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(PPP)#IMF_estimates_for_2020
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Yea you get some """benefits""" from EU but just till you get to the average or a little bit more than that.

After that point you're forced to join """ the eurozone""" and to suck bureaucracy dick all day


Also didn't read everything so fuck you.


BTW: Europe has always been united ( even though many countries have rivalries, but that's something that will happen everytime probably) without your fucking """Union""", it has been Christianity which has holded all of us together.

Can you hear it, the little voice in your head repeating again and again cuck cuck cuck?

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>le juif meme

>form a political union without a fiscal union

Everyone, act surprised when it fails.

I can leave my shit country, and travel free that's a benefit

EU needs better leaders to be great again, all it takes is someone like Trump or Putin

>le butthurt jew replying to a jew name calling meme

The drawbacks outweighs the fex advantages.

>not to break your leg if you lose your job cause they''ll leave you to die

How is this true ? And how is this fucking related to the EU ? What are you smoking ?

>I believe in the European Union, it's sick, but I want to heal it, not kill it, because nothing good can come out of its disintegration

Sovereinty.

Don't try to bring a voice of reason to the Sup Forums dear compatriot. This board is not about that.

i found the only good thing about EU, Turkey isn't in it... yet.

Trump, Putin? Why do you get examples from inferior places such as America and Russia?

You don't need to look outside Europe mate. Julius Ceasar, Napoleon Bonaparte, We've had the best.

It's true, you're right, we need to bring back such leaders.

Even a Bismarck would be enough!

Or a Charles de Gaulle.

It's not about seeing no positives, the problem is that the negatives are way heavier than the positives.
The EU costs us money, jobs, continues to enforce petty laws and regulations on us and we can't do anything about it.
We can't disagree with any of their proposals, they'll shove it down our throat anyway just like the EU constitution.

Facilitating movement of people is really shitty when you live in a prosperous area, it attracts all the fleas and leeches.

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>blooducker who gets billions from euro taxpayers
>knows his shithole country will never contribute and he will never have to pay
>EU IS GREAT GUYS!!!!!
eastern europeans are like fucking niggers

>no wars involved
Are you fucking retarded? It happened because people were sick of wars, it was a direct result of war... and the NWO agenda.

>EU is is successful at keeping peace among the European nations
True, and it seems that this peace has defeated us. Our society is declining. Societys need struggle to survive.

>The EU does a LOT of good stuff to protect us against global, international predatory corporations,
Tell that to Poland which is nearly owned by german corporations and media

>Slovenia is EU average
Not to be rude but that just shows that the EU is shit and the "well off" countries will be dragged down. Muh socialism

>how annoying it is to travel molested by border control
Actually it was kinda fun when you were younger. Border were a part of vacation, good memories actually and makes you feel going into another countries, with another language and another culture. Now you just don´t give a fuck and keep driving.

>It facilitates trade
You can do that without the EU

> it facilitates movement of people
Multiculti and racemixing, destroying everything in the long run, great

>agree that there are positive things about the EU as well?
Yes there are, but the negatives outweigh the positives. Basically the only good thing about the EU is being a strong combined economic force against the US and China.

>without the EU it would all be lollipops and rainbows
No it won´t, but the EU is just a small step in what is to come. It will expand, probably further south into north africa. More multiculti, more destruction of culture long term

>because nothing good can come out of its disintegration
Really? Is this some prophecy you have seen in your glass ball? Stop fear mongering you emotional wreck.

>The future of the world is China, India, USA, Brazil, Russia
>US if they don´t get a civil war
>China is at it´s limit, was close to an economic collapse
>India has still a looong way to go
>Brazil literally wat
>Russia ... fkn post limit

The EU is a retirement home for dank politicians.

>voice of reason

>no real reasons to stay in EU besides open borders, as it was needed right now
>as we can't open border through treaties instead of wasting money in this shit tier union

It seems that only poor European countries like the EU, or it's irrelevant to more developed European countries like UK, France, Norway, Germany, etc....thats just an american perspective, so whatever.

>How is this true ? And how is this fucking related to the EU ? What are you smoking ?
because people from post communist shitholes can now go to western europe for free medical care.

Stopped reading at "racemixing"
If you want me to take you seriously, you gotta do better than being a retarded vacuumhead Stormnigger

>Slovenia
>Population of 2 million

>England
>Population of 54.3 million

Sure, open borders work great for you, but I'm surrounded by ocean and pakis. Do you seriously think I give two fucks about remaining in a political union to benefit some Slovenians? Perhaps I'll vote Remain to satisfy some Czechs in a tiny village pub somewhere? No, I'll vote to crash this shitty corrupt union the same way they piss MY money away on other nations and give me a spoonful of it back, but write in huge letters "OY LADS THIS PROJECT COST 6 MILLION BONGS, SAY FANKS TO THEM PROPER SOUND EU LADS INNIT FOR FORKIN AAAHT A BITTA FUNDIN!!"

no

>but unlike the Roman Empire, it was created peacefully - no wars involved
What? Explain yourself

The european union was designed by a nazi.
this destroy Sup Forums logic.

it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Hallstein

Even though he was in the wehrmacht his surname sounds jewish

>because people from post communist shitholes can now go to western europe for free medical care.
You're a retard if you believe that's true.

It's like this, bro:

The idea, the concept of a police officer, the idea of a man empowered by the State to enforce the law and keep the peace and watch over the community, is a good idea and most people would say completely necessary.

But if you hire a cop and he's selling drugs and running a prostitution ring and taking bribes and occasionally killing people, you don't say, "Oh, well, the concept of a cop is so good, I guess you have to take the bad with the good."

You fire the bad cop and you hire a different cop.

The people who actually rule and run the EU are all anti-human, anti-sovereignty, pro-eugenics psychopaths. In real life.

Is the concept of a European Union a good concept? Arguably yes.

That doesn't mean you should just accept whatever version falls in your lap.

Its not an empire because its not a nation and every member state can do whatever they like if they decide so.

Also its not because of EU that people can move easily around the Europe etc. It was like this before the EU, we dont a complex undemocratic and bureaucratic system for that.

>but I'm surrounded by ocean and pakis
I feel you mate, but THAT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE EU.

>Russia
>outside Europe
This is that famous Slovene education isn't it

>pro EU post
>look at flag
>eastern europe
Every time

>comes shitposting on pol
>gets answers anyone would expect
>becomes mad because he doesn´t like the answer
>implying racemixing is only for "stormnigger"
>butthurt slavshit

90% of Eu shills on this board are Slovshitians, how come?

You are the biggest cuck I have ever had to watch abusing the Slovenian flag. People have died to not have you gangraped by Croats, Serbs, Muslims, Fascists, Nazis and whatever Hungary is. All you do is shit on them. Do you have any idea how long it took to break out of the empires that abused, raped, stole and killed your compatriots? WTF is wrong with you.

Yes, there are few good things about this clusterfuck of a union. They are the same as in Yugoslavia. You could move freely up and down the shithole that is the Balkans. The shitpeople from the Balkans could move to you. The shithole got shittier with the time. It's the same with the EU. Congratulations, you broke out of Yugoslavia to join the next Yugoslavia on a larger scale.

You already pay money. You are a net contributor. You are being mugged by the facists and croats again. You clap your hands and think that if the germans rule over you, it will be better than if its the slavs. Let me break the news to you: They don't give a shit about you. They hate you. They tried to erase your culture and your language. You are allowing them to try again.

In 5 days, there will be independence day. Remember the people who died in the last 1000 years to give you the freedom to shit on them. Be grateful instead of being a cuck.

BTW. You wish you lived in a country as good as the USA or Switzerland is.

Slovshits have all the cuckery of Swedes with all the braindead stupidity of Slavs

Sei anche un po stronzo pero, perche' la Slovenia e' Europa centrale

Guarda su Wikipedia, cazzone.

You can greentext all you want but your posts show you're underage and undereducated. Sorry bro, come back in a few years when you read a book.

> but THAT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE EU.

youtube.com/watch?v=q94syUDDhxA

>Frans Timmermans: EU will be diverse or war

>Franciscus Cornelis Gerardus Maria "Frans" Timmermans (born 6 May 1961) is a Dutch politician and diplomat who currently serves as the First Vice-President of the European Commission and the European Commissioner for the portfolio of Better Regulation, Inter-Institutional Relations, Rule of Law and Charter of Fundamental Rights in the Juncker Commission from 1 November 2014.

Hahaha that post actually made me laugh.
Thanks mate.

Fuck off shill.

>protect us against global, international predatory corporations
That's exactly what the EU is.

>It facilitates trade, it facilitates movement of people
This can be done without the EU on a nation by nation basis. If a country doesn't want another country to be allowed in, they should be the ones to decide. Don't want Turks? Too bad, once the EU lets them in there is nothing you can do.

> I want to heal it
Not possible. Do you know how the EU presidents are elected? Of course you don't, because it's not something you get a say in. The representatives that a country sends have no authority, and by extension your entire country has no authority in the EU. The EU is the ruling class of Europe and only EU leaders have any say in the laws that you must abide by.

The ONLY thing you can do is try to leave the EU, but for most that isn't even possible. Those on the EU paycheck will just throw out results they don't like or repeat the vote until they get the result they want.

Your country shouldn't even exist. You should just be part of Austria again

>west euro leftist created and fucked up the union
>ids da iistrn uroopsoors (who btw are the only thing stopping your libtards from going all out 1984 in the euro parlament)
Protip, pastafag, the same liberals that shill for immigrants in the EU today, will continue to shill for immigrants after leaving the EU. Just look at Germany, nobody forced them to take rapefugees, their own libtards forced the government.

>Federal government with no connection to member states is able to enforce legislation

>Big states take control, smaller must obey and are put in subjugated position

Big part of our right wing is pro EU because they see it as opportunity to suck german cock and our right wing leader is big EU fan

Nah hes right, Slovenes here always vote the greens, all the time

>ad hominem the person who gave the longest answer in the thread
>go read a book

Listen below average IQ degenerate, you instantly resorted to shitposting when you got an answer you didn´t like so shut the fuck up. Don´t project your shortcomings on me.

Good!
Green politics is the politics of the future!

Why pushing the fucking immigrants all over? In what fucking way this benefit anyone on Europe at all? Even more, when they are infested with extremist ideology and 80% of them are males in military age. Why the fuck, someone would push that rationally???

>the same liberals that shill for immigrants in the EU today, will continue to shill for immigrants after leaving the EU
I'm completely aware of this, the argument about the EU and immigration is just a british thing anyway

shut your mouth yuropoor!

the eternal anglo has awoken! and we have deicded it was a bad idea and must be stopped

DEUS VULT!

>unelected psychos who receive massive amounts of money for ruining nation states in persuit of some librul multicultural dream is a good idea
>a currency that ties together countries with enormously different productivity and stance on inflation is a good idea

Stay with us mate. Let's make Europa great again!

EU is a joke. It's second in worthlessness next to NATO.

because broke ass nigga states are dependant on euro bennies

where as western europe isnt as much so.

the uk can go it alone...eastern europe needs it to survive

i refuse to be a cash cow for yuropoors

i want to restore the empire....cant do that with euro dumps sucking our wealth

>a person from a shit country can freely move to a country with a better ecinomy and live off their wealth
sounds great for europoors, but everyone else is getting fucked with all the dirty east european immigrants and their dirty gypsy cultures.

>implying nation states are a good thing
it's 2016
we need superstates mate

If you're a mudslime maybe. There's a reason no other race advocates "multiculturalism" for themselves, they know how self-destructive that nonsense is.

Dont listen to my retarded conational . Im counting on you to crash this union.

sorry mate...reform yugoslavia

i dream of the new empire

>le poor country meme
Slovenia is poor when compared to Switzerland, USA, UK, Qatar, etc.

But Slovenia is not poor when compared to Spain, Italy, South Korea - it's in that category.

That is not "poor" by any sensible definition of the word. We live comfortably here.

I own a HTC Vive... I'm not dying of hunger here mate.

And I never said it was, lad. Unfortunately, with the EU, open borders are a mandate for EU residents, and we also can't control border policy for other nations either to the degree Britain would a) like, and b) needs. You aren't horrifically overpopulated, and have a broadly homogenous nation state and populace. Bongland doesn't. Irregardless of whether everyone ends up brown-skinned in a hundred years or so, it matters not if my country doesn't still exist because it was run into the ground.

We've got one who can SEE!

European Union is the shit.
Yugoslavia was SHIT tout court.

free monies is literally the only good thing about the EU

>if you think about it
why is it everyone who says this has actually done no thinking whatsoever

I liked banging chicks on Erasmus, that's about it.

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RESTORE THE EMPIRE OF EMPIRES!

DEUS VULT!

Yugoslavia was the only time your little shithole country was relevant

Because you're a filthy Slavshit from Chechnya?

EU is the sole reason why Russia isn't fucking us all in the ass.

I'm European. Born and raised.

The bureaucracy thing is a meme.
Compared to Italian or French bureaucracy, EU is easy-peasy.

I've never had an issue with it.

Plus, many talk of "unelected foreigners" ruling from Bruxelles. But what is the EU Parliament?

I cannot wait for USE to be a thing so we will get rid of corrupt motherfuckers in our own countries.

Long live USE! Let the Überdemocracy clean our local sins!

Let it defend us from both USA and Russia.

Actually, USE is the best chance for lingusitic minorities. Manny of us don't need Italy or Spain, but Catalunya, Asturias, Triveneto, and more.

The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES (like Italy, cemented by bourgeois and fascism) and involve each true nation into Europe.

Anybody ever heard the motto: Europe for the Peoples, not for the States?

uk and frances nukes are the only reason

or do you think germany and sweden are holding them back lol?

I won't object
That's true
But I don't want to be relevant
USA is the most relevant. That's why 9/11 happened to you, and not to us.
Being irrelevant has its perks. You're left alone.
I want a good, comfortable life.
I don't care about being relevant or known.
Do a Google Image Search of "slovenia" and you'll see I live in a little Paradise here.

My live is extremely comfortable, I work 6 hours a day, have enough money to buy whatever I want including the latest technology from Burger land

Relevance is overrated mate

i dont think thats it

Fuck you

Good post Finnbro
Only good post in this whole thread

>the last shot Europe, as a continent, has at world relevance is bad
Maybe if you hadn't destroyed the continent with your meme wars, you fucking kraut, we wouldn't be the US' and China's bitches by 2030. Even Indonesia will outrun your meme economy by 2020. Do you think gooks and russians will have mercy on tiny "nation-states" like Estonia and Croatia.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IMF_ranked_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(PPP)#IMF_estimates_for_2020

>tfw huns trying to destroy the white race for the third time this century
Epin

STFU TRAITOR!

THE UK MUST BE FREE AND THE EMPIRE NEEDS MEN!

>gets a good response with arguments
>ignores it because it used a term he didnt like
Wew lad. You are just acting like a liberetard that ignores all reason and evidence.

>The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES
a nation without a state has little protection. why should i think EU will care when they can liquidize it for cash and territory

shut your mouth traitor!

Fuck
Right
Off
you absolute jew
Death to the abomination that is the EU
Glory to all sovereign nations

Good. When do you leave?

>Let it defend us from both USA and Russia.
>Implying a USE wouldn't be America's bitch

>The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES
So merging 28 states into one is better for linguistic minorities?

Fuck your superstates, every large country in this world is a complete shithole except for USA and Canada who benefit from having the same culture as western Europe.

And dont even start with "muh military", our defence ministers are women and pretty much no one in the EU wants to die fighting for some other country on the other side of the continent.
I would never even dream to defend your country with my life, and if you got half a brain, you certainly wouldnt want to die for mine.

>Compared to Italian or French bureaucracy, EU is easy-peasy.
They're on top of each other
>Plus, many talk of "unelected foreigners" ruling from Bruxelles. But what is the EU Parliament?
The place where laws that can only be proposed by unelected bureaucrats gets voted according to who lobbied the most
>The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES
You say you're european but disregarding history and culture like this is very american of you

>The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES (like Italy,

Kindly fuck off.

Thank you.

I a priori ignore Nazis sorry
I can't waste time with braindeads
Would you discuss with someone who bleieves in Reptilians?
Or someone who believes in the Illuminati?
I guess not.
That's why I don't waste time with Stormfaggots.

>unelected psychos
Kek.
Eu is ruled by an elected parliament and then in turn by representatives of your elected states.

You don't even fucking know how it works

"The future," he says . . .

"The future." lol

Sweet Jesus we got a lot of retards in this world.

Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame;
All their attempts to bend thee down
Will but arouse thy generous flame,
But work their woe and thy renown.

RULE BRITANNIA! BRITANNIA! RULE THE WAVES! BRITONS NEVER EVER EVER SHALL BE SLAVES!

>That's exactly what the EU is.
Fuck me Amerifag. True story is EU forced many so-called corporations to fucking comply.

Most class actions in Europe succeed because of EU... reason is local gov are too corrupt and involved to help the people. Europe is the only hope.

Good posts bro
Brought a tear to my eye
There are still good Europeans like You in the world!

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder,
Was die Mode streng geteilt;
Alle Menschen werden Brueder,
Wo dein sanfter Fluegel weilt.

Pretty much this.

Nobody in Europe feels "european", it's a fucking meme created by Americans after WW2 to try and unite us against the Soviets.

I'm Italian, AND THAT'S IT.

So imagine you're in a room with a German, a Frenchman, 2 Africans, a Texan, a Chinaman and a Japanese.

Would you see them all as equally "foreign"?

>an empire
With no emperor or imperial army.

you are a genius OP

>Slovenia
>cuckiest slavs

opinion discarded

Brexit would definitely do no good to me personally, but I'd rather you leave, that would be a step forward for you guys. The prospect of working in the UK, as I have for several years now would be uncertain.
Good luck guys.

you mean people who shaft their own country to throw away their power to unelected bureaucrats and ustase?

get fucked