Is diversity really a bad thing?

No, I'm not talking about the mass immigration policies of the EU, which works against diversity by importing people largely from the same class, culture and religion. I'm talking about real diversity, I'm talking about Finns moving into a Maori islander community, Japanese living among Brazilians, Chileans moving to Russia. You know, interesting cultures and communities combining together and sharing ideals.

A homogenous population of all white isn't really the best thing for a country, proven by low birth rates and fervent nationalism (see Balkan countries like Serbia, Germany in the 1930s, Japan etc.)

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>A homogenous population of all white isn't really the best thing for a country, proven by low birth rates and fervent nationalism

You do know that birth-rates in lily-white European nations were well above replacement levels until the 20th century, right?

the conquering is halted in times of abundance

The rise of feminism, right?

There's homogenous countries where feminism has almost zero presence, like Serbia. Why the low birth rate still?

You're not going to have a stable and functional society of you bundle together a bunch of people who have no shared values or identity. Apart from different food, what exactly are you hoping to gain from that anyway?
>see Balkan countries like Serbia
Yeah, look no further than the former Yugoslavia to see how well what you're proposing here works.

This is the birth rate by country. To replace herself and her partner, a woman needs to have 2 kids. In countries like Germany, Sweden, and Japan, it's as low as 1.4 or 1.5 and falling.

Afghanistan and sub-saharan africa, on the other hand, are at like 7-8. Child brides spitting out endless hordes of Islamic invaders.

It starts with "diversity". It ends with a homogeneous Islamic planet of the apes.

Belgium had the right idea in the Congo. We should have devoted the entire efforts of Europe to that pursuit. Instead we fought each other and allowed the politics of children to reign.

Rise of the jew.
They tricked us on to all getting our own homes so all anyone can afford is a one bedroom and no kids.

Except the United States is just that, a functional society of immigrants from different backgrounds bundled together. That is why you have things like the Creole, Chicano culture, etc. and it's not just food, either. Music, art, scientific knowledge. I'm going to use Balkans as an example: What would have happened if Tesla never immigrated here and proposed to stay in Serbia/Croatia (wherever the fuck he was from)? The level of knowledge and experience in America working with different cultures (Germans, Poles, Irish, Italians) was unparalleled.

Different example: Operation Paperclip. Importing all those German Nazis launched the space program.

Now of course you could say "but they were white, not shitskin" and of course your opinion is valued, but remember at one point Italians, Germans, Jews, Russians, even Balkan peoples like Tesla were not considered white.

The decline of birth-rates is a complex phenomenon that "lol feminism" is too glib an answer 2bh. I mean it's not like Japan is "more feminist" than your average western European nation.

But no-one (least of all our corporate masters slavishly devoted to perpetual economic growth) wants to tackle the root causes, it's just easier to assume that women's lib is the sole reason. Maybe correlation =/= causation, and maybe it's other factors of advanced industrial societies like ours that simultaneously result in below-replacement birth-rates AND feminism

The most important thing is the quality of the human gene pool.

You could make a case for a segregated, multiethnic society filled with whites and japanese.

But how "diversity" currently works just means more iq 85 subhumans from the 3rd world, and less intelligent and productive people.

The US achieved greatness because it started with a bunch of Brits who were too based to remain colonies, and then 150 years ago, it attracted all the other white races (also the Irish) who wanted to work constructively instead of playing the game of rival empires that eventually destroyed Europe.

100 years ago they started bring in Asians, which has been a huge boon due to their inherent proficiency for math.

But did any good ever come of bringing in Niggers and Spics? No, they are nothing but a drag. And the increasingly weary white races have become unable to support them. Pure white USA would kick the pants off current USA while being less "diverse"

Throughout the most of its history the United States has always been able to effectively assimilate the bulk of the newcomers into its white-ish, English speaking Christian mass, that despite having some not so significant differences for the most part shared the same American identity and set of ideals.
Now try throwing in a hundred million Muslims from, let's say, Pakistan and Bangladesh, and see how much their fresh ideas and scientific knowledge benefit the society.

We are to blame for our low birth rates. Not sure it's fixable either

>it's another "babby hasn't even bothered to read the fundamental shit like Putnam or Dinesen" episode
>it has a "muh birthrates" subplot

Birthrates aren't static.

Diversity is a euphemism. Ask yourself this: Why do different countries exist? At its core, the reason is because different people have different ideas of society and life and want to live by their own rules. Diversity is essentially nothing else than forcing different tribes to share the same territory. The necessary result is either conflict or assimilation by all but one faction. Never in history has there been a different result, and there never will be. There is no other way to resolve this tension.

Birth rates are easily fixable.

Combine economic incentives with pumping out propaganda that idealizes family life.

It's been done many times before.

>Pic semi-related, this woman has dual English and Brazilian nationality, probably
Nah, that's probably just some American mutt whore.

I'd rather live in a diverse country than one that was 99.99% white. A place like Iceland sounds like heaven, but I think the people would be boring.

I live in a 98% white area of Pennsylvania, outside of the whitest metropolitan area in America (Scranton), and the people here are all boring white hillbillies. It was fine at first, but now I'm going fucking insane and will be moving back to Hudson County NJ in the next few days.

I miss being able to walk down the street to the deli, it was owned by hispanics, I got a taylor ham and egg sandwich, an iced tea, and we talked for a few minutes.

For dinner, I can walk down the street again and get halal, or Chinese food, or whatever. The people, regardless of race, were always friendly and happy to help you out. There are of course the standouts, the niggers, the wiggers, the cholos and whatnot, but generally diversity is a good thing.

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>Pic semi-related, this woman has dual English and Brazilian nationality, probably

A pornstar's attractiveness probably isn't the best argument for diversity m8

why is every dumb nigger lover obsessed with birthrates? you realize that at some point there has to be only enough land to produce food for some, right? the answer the the birthrate problem is a matter of intelligence and economics. in countries that are well developed(like europe until they became niggers) white people (who have about an average IQ of 100 for the whole ethnic group) have fewer kids because they understand that if they have fewer kids they can afford richer life styles, meanwhile, other ethnic groups with average IQ's in the low-mid 80's have fuckloads of kids because they haven't realized that don't have a mere 20% chance of living to five anymore, and won't die of polio cholera, or the plague. otherwise, it's purely because as a species we have had to breed a lot of kids to have a few living offspring, because of the aforementioned ailments.

It is inherently neither good nor bad. SJWs and Nazis can all fuck off.

nice

Birth rates are important for the future of civilization.

We need more quality people and (since there's a limited amount resources) less low quality ones.

Mexico isn't going to bring us to space.

too big

too big for you, sweden? how is that possible?

Then we need some Lebensraum before we can start making more quality people.

But you never hear this shit from them. Popping out more children doesn't solve our problems - killing the subhumans does.

They can bring outside experience
As long as they aren't the majority or try to push their ways onto the majority it's fine. If you integrate into the society but bring the experiences of your culture to help improve or give a different angle to the current one I think it does good.
Too bad that doesn't ever fucking happen

While Colombia is mostly Catholic, there are few pure whites, most are brown sons-of-everyone and niggers are very scarce in big cities. Besides, every region is culturally distinct, to the point that people from the capital may be unable to understand dialects from the coast.
We are fucking criminals. We steal, kill, scam, to our own and to other countries. There is no identity beyond le soccer memes, and those abroad are called druglords and whores. I can tell you with all honesty that this happens because we have no pride as a country, and this is due to diversity. There is no common idol to look up to. Bolivar died and left a bunch of organs loosely tied together, like Washington, but we didn't get a Lincoln.
I wish we were all white. Hell, all natives would be good. Our only saving grace is that we've never had a leftard government.

>They
Aren't the subsaharan birth rates high because of child deaths? They give birth to more babies to replace those who die at young age.
If they got better health care they would decrease birth rates.
Take Tunisia for example where birth rates were above 7 for each couple before 56 and after the health reform in 63 it plummeted to 1.7.

White people make things nice and sustain it
Asians run over 2 year olds on the street and do nothig
Indians shit in the street
Middle-Easterners blow shit up
Jews leech off everything
Blacks destroy everything

Why would you want any of these apart from Whites

Winner winner chicken dinner!

It's an insurance policy as well. When your dirt poor you know you won't get by in old age, so you have a shit ton of kids to ensure some of them can support you.

Depends on the spic.

Cubans are contributed a great deal to the US, apart from the ones that went Scarface.

>probably

Yep, but that's racist.

And thank about it, my fellow racist gook friend, if Japan isn't doing that, how can the West possibly hope to do that?

>And thank about it, my fellow racist gook friend, if Japan isn't doing that, how can the West possibly hope to do that?

But they are, which is why their birthrateis rising again.

Yes, but rising from a ridiculously low rate.

I'll be impressed once it nears the 2.0 mark.

Sorry for my typos, holy shit. Just woke up.

>diversity

1. When folks just move around on their own within their own nations according to their own decisions alongside natural demographic shifts? No, not at all. It can actually be pretty neat then.

2. When it involves walking into a room filled with people, identifying those within whom were "born wrong" by their skin color, and then seeking to eject them based on this factor alone? Yeah, it is a pretty bad thing.

>"It seems that too many of you were born wrong. Sorry, but you'll have to go home now."

Wasn't it Denmark that recently launched that ad campaign to get birth rates up? "Do it for Denmark"

But yes, kikes and mentally ill marxists are going to fight it.

Not sure what Japans problem are exactly (posting from vpn) but they are going through a prolonged recession, and I wouldn't be surprised if globalists have their tentacles deeper in than it seems at first.

If theres no welfare, effective police, good justice system and good jobs then yes it works and could probably be able to argue that it is in fact a strength. If you don't have those though, it wont work.

>Finns moving into a Maori islander community
internations.org/new-zealand-expats/finnish
>Japanese living among Brazilians
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Brazilians
>Chileans moving to Russia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Chileans

Already done. Happy now?

>Wasn't it Denmark that recently launched that ad campaign to get birth rates up? "Do it for Denmark"

Ah yes, that rings a bell.

Holy fuck for the last time the drop in birth rates is normal and will stabilize. We're just adjusting from the baby boom. As the economy worsens the birth rate will rise naturally.

all a country needs to prosper is a unifying productive ideology

being racially homogenous is one way to potentially achieve this, and is generally the easiest way

however some nations have proved you can have a multicultural society and still achieve greatness. These would include Hong Kong, Singapore, or the USA in its earlier years (back when whites werent lumped together in one race, and the country still consisted of first and second generation immigrants who brought their native culture with them, including racism such as those towards irish or poles.


however multiculturalism for its own sake is obviously a disaster and no nation prospered by immigrating or fostering a parasitic class of non-producers

Look at how densely populated Japan is. They don't need replacement under the current circumstances.

What's stopping Saudi Arabia or any other country with resources to send their people into your country and sustain them financially until they've replaced you demographically?

Libertarianism is just liberalism with some autism sprinkles on top. It does not work.

>nationalism bad
>racemixing good
Degenerate. Stop posting.

Japan needs more lebensraum.

We should help them annex something.

Yeah, but that's only in the cities. The country-side is almost empty because young people are giant pussies and would prefer to live in boxes than in open spaces.

There are 340.8 people per 1km2 in Japan. That's the average.

How could anyone argue that they need more people? Do you want every spot in Japan looking like Tokyo or what?

You know that if you spread those people across Japan, they each get a whopping 2,934 sqm of living space? Or 54 by 54 metres of land.

There's no need for people to live in boxes.

Too much population is a meme. Japan doesn't need to grow, yes, but it doesn't need to shrink either.

The West should stop importing niggers and muslims, and just keep our pops at replacement level. We can feed ourselves.

Poland had fertility rate above 2.0 until 1990 or so, which is incidentally just about when the Jews got a hold of the country. During the communist era it was at 2-3, now it's at 1.3. Go figure.

In general though, it's linked with civilization and prosperity. When you have more prospects of enhancing your life and more things you'd want to buy, you'll work towards that rather than dividing your income even more by making more children. What do you think a peasant did in old times? He was working his field from dusk til dawn just to have anything to eat and the only thing he could do for fun, apart from some holidays, was fucking his wife raw. Nowadays we are too busy having all the possibilities to reduce ourselves to a state of working for food all day every day.

Would anyone of you want to live a simple life on a farm? I bet nobody would. And even without that, go ahead, make 4 or 5 children and see how you are able to handle that. We have too many distractions to consider that lifestyle. We want to have a glamorous life, not work 70-80 hours per week for the family.

So while I was joking about the Jews in the beginning, it's not really Jews, or at least not just the Jews alone. It's the civilization. Niggers and shitskins have a lot of children because mentally they're still in medieval times. Their culture, whatever it is, and their minds work differently, they have different priorities.

>A homogenous population of all white isn't really the best thing for a country, proven by low birth rates and fervent nationalism

You must be mentally deficient.

My theory for how to make multiculturism work is this:

Keep the foreigners in major cities where trade and commerce reign supreme, leave the rest of the country to the natives.

It's so simple, this is how you can promote diversity without destroy your country's cultural heritage.

>my unrealistic scenario justifies real world actions

Good luck building cities on mountain slopes.

You are right. This is why civilizations rise and fall. We are at or near apogee, so enjoy it while it lasts because there is little-to-nothing being done to fix it.

Except that most of the country's cultural heritage is located in the cities - that's why cities exist, because that's where people and therefore most of the historical events, used to concentrate.

Have a desigated diversity country like the US where you can dump all the shitskins and leftists, that'd be the best solution. Optionally point some nukes there so that you could take them all out in the case it doesn't work.

its not that bad, i mean lebanon is bombarded by aussies, brazilians, italians, germans, and mexicans , french, dont forget brits too

> Don't have babies goy! The death of your civilization is inevitable.

Turns out this is a raid thread and theres several of these up at the same time, another by Japan.

Report the OP.

This is Japan. They've built farms on slopes and skyscrapers in a place where earthquakes regularly...

You know what? Never mind.

As if whites in the US have a good birth rate, thanks to diversity? Wrong.
Jesus christ bro. You're either delusional or a shill.

The birth rate of whites in the US is still bad, despite diversity. OP BTFO

Hes a fucking Reddit raider, the guy has 3 posts and they are full of SJW minded horseshit.

Europeans are diverse, hes implying all white people are one race, and then he actually uses fucking irish and poles and germans etc to suggest their different immigrations helped the US.

Its absolute empty horseshit, reddit subjective bullshit critical theory.

Sage your posts and report the OP.

Only American capitalists believe in endless growth.

That looks too dumb to be real, desu.

Yep, it's paid shills trying to blame reddit.

>they think Sup Forums users are capable of getting involved with monogamous or polygamous relationships

Bumping this thread since they apparently didn't like where it's going.