What a shit year for horror, eh? I just watched Don't Breathe, which is terrible.
Pic related was excellent, though. Hopefully future horror movies learn to rely on atmosphere/dread over gore porn and trite jump scares.
Any good horror coming out, lads?
don't breathe is great
What did you like about it?
it has a great atmosphere
I found it to have overstayed its welcome. It's an interesting concept, but hard to stretch over 90 minutes. For instance, I think Disturbia did it better with a ten-minute take.
Mostly, though, I just didn't like how dumb the characters were. The semen syringe was also weirdly fetishized. Goddamn Mexicans.
The vvitch is pretty good, had me spooked. Probably the worse horror movie this year was the forest imo.
Can Natalie Dormer act?
Her acting is about as disappointing as her tits.
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I just watched The Wailing, and I want the 2.5 hours I wasted on it back. How can I feel for the main character when NOTHING he did throughout the movie made any sense? Nothing. He has to be the shittiest cop in history.
You didn't like The Wailing? I loved it for the culture and atmosphere alone, even if the main character was a little dumb. With that said, the entire situation couldn't be explained by logic so it's hard to really blame him for not solving a supernatural mystery with superior rationalization.
Are there any specific examples you can point to?
I agree.
Witch = true kino
Don't Breathe = by the numbers thriller
Green Room = slightly gory home invasion flick
Millennials sure do like to put average movies up on a pedestal. No one will remember those mediocre poser movies in 10 years - no one.
How about the ending? Why the fuck did he find the need to go back to his house before the rooster crowed three times? Where was the sense of urgency? He felt the need to do the exact opposite of what the lady told him, and there was no explanation why. He was suspicious of her, sure, but why would he feel the need to go back to house before the rooster crowed three times? So that the movie had a "tragic" ending.
It seems to be a recurring theme in South Korean movies that the characters do stupid shit to justify the 2 hour + run times. Nobody decides to detain the Japanese man as a suspect? Especially after what was found in his house? They just let him go and come back at a later time? Nobody says anything to the other cops about what they saw in his house? Seriously? And the girl is able to go back home after stabbing a woman with a pair of scissors? Really? And the "zombies" attack officers and nobody tries to restrain them? They are never put in handcuffs? The first guy who murdered two people was allowed to just sit on the porch with no restraints whatsoever? I know that cops don't usually carry handguns in South Korea, but at what point do they switch to deadly force?
The movie was fucking ridiculous.
>Why the fuck did he find the need to go back to his house before the rooster crowed three times?
You answered this question on your own—he was highly suspicious of her. She's telling him something terrible will happen to his family unless he listens to her, but he's already been burned by the old man, quasi-zombies, a hack shaman, and the ineptitude of the police force. His daughter is suffering from a possession/sickness and his family is in splinters. It's a paternal instinct to try to physically convene with one's family in a dangerous setting, especially if the alternative is waiting for a rooster to crow three times. I agree the setup is absurd in itself (though not in a negative way, as such a tone is typical of Korean supernatural movies), but I don't think his action was necessarily irrational. I do agree, however, that the tragedy of the ending was both contrived and predictable.
>Nobody decides to detain the Japanese man as a suspect?
Didn't the man run away? It's been a few months since I've seen the movie, so I'm not positive.
>And the girl is able to go back home after stabbing a woman with a pair of scissors?
It's a small village. No one is going to sue a little girl for having a freakout episode. I guess they could've put her in a ward or something, but how would that change the movie? She'd still be possessed and slowly deteriorating in her humanity.
>And the "zombies" attack officers and nobody tries to restrain them? They are never put in handcuffs?
They were definitely restrained through brute force. Good point about the handcuffs, though. I imagine it was a bizarre form of humor; Korean filmmakers are known for abrupt tonal shifts.
>The first guy who murdered two people was allowed to just sit on the porch with no restraints whatsoever?
I imagine you understand how minor this gripe is. It was for dramatic effect. In real life, yes, he'd have cuffs on at the very least, but come on, he was clearly shown to be an empty shell.
>at what point do they switch to deadly force?
They did bash the zombies over the head quite a few times. Other than that, was there a moment where deadly force was needed and/or sufficient to resolve the crisis? Can't exactly shoot the devil.
Your defenses are bullshit. You know why? Because if this movie was set in America, NONE of the shit I complained about would fly, because none of it makes any logical sense. None of it.
They go to to guy's hose, find several incriminating things, and just leave? They don't contact other cops about what they find? And then they go back and kill the guy's fucking dog, and nobody in the police force hears about it? That wouldn't be an issue at all? There wasn't a single statement made about the incident?
This movie doesn't make sense. You can't dismiss everything as "a minor gripe," because that shit piles up. I can't feel sorry for the main character when EVERYTHING he did was fucking retarded. I can't.
>Other than that, was there a moment where deadly force was needed and/or sufficient to resolve the crisis?
What about when the charred zombies were attacking police officers? People have been shot for less, and yet the police don't use deadly force at all. They don't even fucking handcuff the zombies. They never handcuff anybody. They never shoot anybody. They never arrest anybody. They do nothing throughout the entire movie.
I don't care if you like the movie, man. I'm just playing devil's advocate. No need to get super riled up.
To each his own. I enjoyed the movie—totally cool if you didn't.
>if this movie was set in America
Well... it isn't. Have you ever been to a real rural village? I've been to truly off-the-radar places in India and China. You'd be surprised at how little they "trust the process" or do rank-and-file actions. It's a different world, my man.
I'd chalk this up to Korean humor, though you can obviously consider it bad writing. What happened to the zombies, anyway? Do you remember? Was that when the main guy fell over the cliff?
Again, it's all good if you didn't like the movie lol. Just trying to have a discussion so no need to be hostile.
I just hated it because there was no way to tell that the Shaman was a demon until the very end. Even after the good spirit tries to help the cop in the most unconvincing way possible you were still hopeless in predicting what happens. In the end I don't think the cop did anything wrong other than failing to kill the Japanese man and ending the ritual early, which would have killed his daughter but nobody could guess that would happen. I'm really burned out on all these bad endings to Korean films, I swear the last 8 Jap/Korean movies I watched have a downer ending.
>inb4 I need my movies spoonfed to me
Maybe something happened earlier that I missed but I still liked the movie.
>if this movie was set in America
It's set in a small, rural Korean village for a reason.
Where cops have guns and handcuffs and never, ever use them. Or file police reports. Or detain suspects. Or report to their superiors when they find evidence that would break open cases. One has to accept that the cops have zero competence at any level and that they have zero self-preservation. It's one thing to not question suspects; it's something else entirely when they don't even try to restrain people trying to murder them.
One has to accept that the cops are not only incompetent, but have no sense of self-preservation at all.
dude how are you actually this autistic. a lack of handcuffs is keeping you from enjoying a movie about magical shit
It's not autism or nitpicking. They have handcuffs. They are in the presence of a suspected murderer. And they don't try to neutralize the threat.
That has nothing to do with the supernatural. That is just pure, utter retardation. And then you have two zombies attacking cops, and nobody uses deadly force at all. Nobody handcuffs them at all.
The movie doesn't make sense. And people use the fact that it was set in some South Korean village as justification for why it makes no sense. I guess cops in South Korea aren't allowed to arrest anybody, kill anybody in self-defense, detain anybody for questioning, or report anything to their superiors.
That's the suspension of disbelief that you are asking me to have. That alone makes the movie completely unrelatable, and the fact that I have to accept a needlessly convoluted story about ghosts and demons on top of that, makes it even less believable.
I can accept a story about angels and demons for the sake of the story. I can't accept a story about angels and demons in which nobody's actions make any sense whatsoever. I liked I Saw The Devil, even though the main character's actions were extreme and irrational. But at least he had some personal motivations behind his decisions, which is more than I can say about the main character in this movie.
Woah thanks for the spoiler now I won't get to see it coming asshat
Spoiler tags are there for a reason, you've nobody to blame but yourself.
sorry about you being autistic
Can anybody suggest me a good underrated horror? I just watched Train to Busan which, honestly blew me away being a zombie flick from Korea. That shit will be hard to follow up with muh gf.
Was that actually good? Better/worse than Walking Dead season 1?
at this point you sound like an angry teenager who wants to rail against something. People here have replied to your problems with the film with sound reasons and you just dont want to accept it and move on.
Its a tiny rural village, not some metropolis. also its not that they arent allowed they just dont here. Seems like you have a rulebook that you need to apply to every single film or you arent happy
The moment Black Phillip charges at the father genuinely scared the shit out of me. It was a good unusual movie.
the movie was good, but what was satan's end plan?
no, really, he had the witch trolling this family in the middle of nowhere and in the end has the chick joining the other nutjobs to dance naked for eternity? pretty lame
do you think Satan has an endgame past being in an eternal 1-up against God? he secured a soul for his side, that's all. it's not like it took him much effort considering he's an omniscient being
I know I was asking too much from this movies, but I think Gaiman's Lucifer spoiled me. "Muh souls" now sounds like an idiotic motivation to me.
who says there was just one? Those other nutjobs werent just superfans