what would you do to Siouxsie Sioux if you could do it with no repercussions?
I'd ruffle her hair.
What would you do to Siouxsie Sioux if you could do it with no repercussions?
Camden Morris
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Tyler Bailey
I would have consensual sex with her and rub her A-cup boobs and puffy nipples
Nathaniel Smith
I'd probably say something along the lines of "Dark-punk's most overrated artist, Siouxsie has left behind very few compositions that deserve to be remembered. Most of her "music" was actually attitude, and therein lies her importance. She was an icon, and undoubtedly influenced bands worldwide. Goth-rock would not be a widespread phenomenon without her. But, unlike her model Nico, she was "only" an icon, and never a musician. Thanks to heavy promotion from major labels since the beginning of her career, she did achieve a bigger commercial success that the rest of dark-punk's emaciated ranks but at the expense of sacrifing whatever little originality her music had. If nothing else, the commercial scam helped give the genre some credibility with labels, which in turn materialized in a broader acceptance of gothic music worldwide. That is what Siouxsie will be remembered for."
Leo King
Fuck off with this pasta. The Banshees influenced Joy Division, and Slowdive, and were at one point bigger than The Cure.
They shared members with The Cure, Magazine, Specimen, and even the Sex Pistols. They were a huge cultural force.
Asher Bailey
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Tyler Wilson
i can smell it in the air
Elijah Barnes
I would never do anything wrong to Siouxsie. I'd feel wrong, and especially so since she is one of my idols.
I'd ruffle her hair too though.
Austin Barnes
>WOOOOAAAAH OH
>OH YOUR CITY LIES IN DUST
Angel Ramirez
More like Susie Slut.
Caleb Nelson
This. I don't find her sexually attractive, but she's one of my favorite musicians of all time and a huge inspiration.
Julian Anderson
>in a relationship with the same man for 30+ years
>slut
Cameron Robinson
>divorced him and came out as a bisexual who prefers feminine men
Asher Powell
Source?
Ryder Rogers
>"I think men and women are very different and maybe we're not totally suited as partners. We are so different emotionally. Women are allowed and encouraged to have all these emotions, whereas I still find men repressed. Isn't it weird the way, politically, women are oppressed but emotionally men are? I just do think females are superior. I, erm, I think they have the whole package."
>"I've never particularly said I'm hetero or I'm a lesbian. I know there are people who are definitely one way, but not really me. I suppose if I am attracted to men then they usually have more feminine qualities."
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Joshua Sanders
She's right.
Jack Nelson
>I just do think females are superior.
Friendship ENDED with Siouxsie now DINAH is my BEST FRIEND
Joshua Taylor
I'd ask her to do hair and makeup with me. She'd be cool to hang out with.
Jaxson Smith
did you even read the pasta?
Andrew Morgan
I'm very confused by that pic. What the hell is going on on her pelvic area?
Blake Robinson
>Literally just a sluttier Siouxsie: the artist
At least she's hot tho
Lucas Rivera
She's literally NOT though
Have you ever heard sing or play? She sounds fuckall like Siouxsie
she's not just hot, she's also a better musician, she's also very fun, and she's also a great vocalist with a super spooky witchy voice
Justin Perez
45 Grave actually made fun music.
SS&TB was all arthouse gloom.
Noah King
>arthouse
dreamhouse
Nicholas Thomas
This. Death Rock > Post-Punk
Hudson Morales
That shit literally sounds like Twisted Sister or something. It's awful. Listen to this instead.
Aiden Sanders
correct
pof pof
Logan Gutierrez
What the fuck is this?
No fucking way anyone can believe this is better than the banshees
Jacob Foster
First of all, that's wrong. Second of all, that didn't sound like death rock. That sounded like hair metal / stadium rock garbage. Death rock is shit like Christian Death and Samhain.
David Moore
I do listen to Siouxsie, but I still listen to 45 Grave. They are too different to compare, just because the lead singer is a woman who wears striking makeup.
Julian Bailey
Twisted Sister is good shit what are you on, you faggot?
Caleb Nelson
This. The Banshees made art. They transcended post-punk, into the realms over neo-psychedelia, dance, and even classical.
That shit just sounded like cheesy halloween music.
Tyler Gonzalez
I know that it's better
Death rock is also stuff like 45 Grave, too bad you weren't aware of it, you complete tourist
Mason Watson
45 grave is definite death rock. Party Time sounds the way it does for a reason. It's tongue in cheek.
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Here's a more genre typical 45G song. Sounds a fair bit like Samhain, yes?
Ryan Perez
Twisted Sister was trash.
David Lee
oh give us a fucking break, art is still entertainment
they just made relaxing music with quirky elements to keep it entertaining and fun in a more roundabout way. 45grave is straightforward good music for dancing
Asher Fisher
>Autistic deathrock fans trying to defend their waifu
She's literally named cancer
Ayden Carter
respect glam metal you boy of soy
Twisted Sister is just too spicy for your weak palate
Noah Thomas
How is anything I said wrong? They made straightforward punk early on, and then post-punk, dabbled in psychedelia, released a few singles and an EP with full orchestral arrangements, and then started making dance songs.
Andrew Hill
This fucking sucks, who would even compare this to Siouxsie and the Banshees?
Shit sounds like it's the soundtrack to a 1987commercial for halloween candy
Adrian Gutierrez
>wimpy indie boy who got into goth rock through MGMT memery trying to tell us what is good music and what isn't
Noah Hill
who /kommunityfk/ here?
Jackson Cook
You said it as if that was any better than cheesy halloween music.
that's what's wrong with your statement
Thomas Peterson
mate iff you can't tell the difference between one of the most creative post-punk bands and literal buttrock, then you have no taste and should just leave the thread
Jason Collins
>Waaaah everyone who doesn't like slut cancer is a strawman I made up waaaah
Robert Butler
The only person in this thread to do so:
did so in response to Siouxsie's predictably anormative gender views because I doubt Dinah has ever had anything to say about gender as a concept because her band has always just been about tongue in cheek fun.
Gavin Nguyen
>This fucking sucks
>Shit sounds like it's the soundtrack to a 1987commercial for halloween candy
ASTOUNDING cognitive dissonance
wow!!!!!
Ian Wood
if you don't realize that well-crafted buttrock can be just as great as artsy post-punk then your taste is all fucked up by your ego.
Austin Russell
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>Batcave
Logan Hall
way to confirm my presumptions, wimppp
Jack Thompson
>cheap commercial garbage made by people who had nothing to do with the scene but want to craft an image
>"well-crafted buttrock can be great"
well at least you admit you have shit taste, kek
Brayden Thomas
>tfw I’m siouxsie’s type
Landon Smith
>people who had nothing to do with the scene
>45Grave
pick literally one you ignorant dipshit
Jackson Price
>plebs of this magnitude are on this board RIGHT NOW
When will it eeeeeeend?
Evan Roberts
having some trouble reading?
I said it sounded like a commercial soundtrack, he implied that commercial soundtracks were good. commercial soundtracks are made by people who weren't in the scene but want to make a pastiche
I don't care when or where 45grave came from but that song sounds nothing like OG post-punk or darkwave or gothic rock, it sounds like 80s arena buttrock with a vague halloween theme plastered on top
Mason Carter
I love super new wavy goth. The Cure, Siouxsie, and JD innovated the music, but they never just went FULL BLAST on melding 80s high fashion and super polished production with goth style like the "less important" bands.
Alexander Jones
The Banshees did everything, man.
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>some dabbling with classical strings and orchestras
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Daniel Morris
p-pic?
Carter Lewis
>waaaah waaah the loud riffs hurt my earsies and there's not enough psychedelic novelty pieces to activate my smarty boy brainsies
stop giving Siouxsie a bad name you cunt
I suggest you go back to wanking it to Radiohead if you wanna feel smart, Siouxsie and the Banshees ain't the band for you
Landon Ross
I don't deny it
I'm just trying to make you realize that it doesn't make them any better than 45 Grave.
Jeremiah Collins
also minimal synth/electro
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Evan Gomez
I cant believe a Siouxsie and the fucking banshees thread has been hijacked by a bunch of buttrock
Andrew Morales
That's because it's deathrock you tard
do YOU have some trouble reading?
Evan Gutierrez
Reminder that 45Grave and Pale Waves are literally the same thing but with different trends to parasite off.
Asher Clark
God damn, these are some obscure demos and B-sides. Thanks, user.
Lucas Garcia
How did you manage to fit so many strawmen in one post tho? Impressive.
Jaxon Evans
1. that has nothing to do with my point that they're a shit band who aren't anywhere near as interesting as the Banshees
2. good deathrock exists, but that's hardly even deathrock. sounds like fucking KISS or Def Leppard put out a halloween album
Cameron Long
Based anons
Noah Ramirez
>buttboys buttblasted by buttrock
how fitting!
Luis Bell
I dunno, how do YOU manage to be all those strawmen at once?
Anthony Powell
1 your point is wrong, and being "interesting" isn't as important as having consistently catchy riffs
2 It's literal deathrock, sorry you don't even know the basics of the genre.
Jonathan Jones
Man, what an incredible band. I wish they were more well-known outside of goth/post-punk circles. Calling them a post-punk band is really selling them short
Isaac Torres
>people on this board now defend buttrock
>these people invaded one of the few good threads left in the catalogue
Please leave
Leo Harris
you're wrong, but that doesn't even matter anymore.
just leave the thread already faggot
nobody wants you here, so why still post? go make another thread for 45grave if you want
Jacob Cooper
The style of that particular song is deliberate. The song is called Party Time and it's about a 5 year old girl who is raped and murdered. it's part of the joke.
Logan White
>1 your point is wrong, and being "interesting" isn't as important as having consistently catchy riffs
So IT WAS bait huh? Got me good!
Aaron Bell
I'm OP you loser. Make me.
Nicholas Long
I post the bands I want in the threads I want and you got no right to dislike 45Grave, so you don't have a ground to stand on.
Charles Parker
Great thread, thanks for making it. Now fuck off so we can discuss good music, please?
Michael King
>no right to dislike 45Grave
>no ground to stand on
Am I on trial? Is this a fucking courtroom? What do you mean "no ground to stand on"? I have the right to dislike whatever I want.
Jackson Wilson
But we are discussing good music: we're discussing 45 Grave and the fact that, objectively speaking (that is, once you remove your pathetic unwarranted self-importance for listening to a band that dabbles in many genres instead of just a couple), it's at least as good as Siouxsie and the Banshees
seriously your appreciation for S&TB seems to boil down to "dude they play SO MANY GENRES lmao" as if that's a feat. Or as if that made their music significantly more enjoyable.
Talk about selling them short.
Bentley Rodriguez
You're goddamn right, I'm condemning your shit taste as an offense to common decency you sniveling little fuck.
Lemme explain that for you: 45 Grave make good music. Good music shouldn't be disliked. Therefore, if you dislike it, you're doing something that shouldn't be done, therefore you're an asshole.
Jordan Smith
>SO MANY GENRES
That wasn't necessarily my point. My point was that they're consistently interesting. They released so much quality music, with such great variety, that it isn't fair compare them to a mediocre deathrock band. The Banshees weren't a one-trick pony, and they were amazing at almost everything they attempted.
Benjamin Young
especially when you consider Siouxsie got into the music business by being a Sex Pistols groupie and nobody on the fucking planet would ever say the Pistols were artists or visionaries.
Dominic Green
Mate, this post is embarrassing. Are are you a literal child?
Jacob Martin
>implying Siouxsie didn't transcend what the Pistols were doing
Angel Rodriguez
do you have autism?
John Peterson
plebs
Jackson Carter
>45 Grave make good music. Good music shouldn't be disliked. Therefore, if you dislike it, you're doing something that shouldn't be done, therefore you're an asshole.
Wew
This post is like a parody of the stereotypical Sup Forums faggot argument. Can't wait to see this on r/Sup Forums
Cooper Roberts
>band is just as good as demonstrably better band literally because I said so!
>What are opinions
Are all Vagina Cancer fans this dense, or is it just this thread?
Carson Ward
Literally embarrassing. Stop.
Isaac Diaz
The issue, you see, is that as i explained earlier, being "interesting" isn't as important as being consistently catchy and unfortunately for S&TB, they aren't consistently catchy. Many of their songs are too mellow, barely danceable. That is a definite weakness (even if it's an intentional one) that often puts them on the same level of quality as mediocre deathrock (which 45 Grave isn't since it's very good deathrock).
Yeah but as I've pointed out being an artist/visionary/smartypants nerdoid really doesn't mean jack when your music isn't fun to mosh to
Isaac Jenkins
How are Siouxsie fans so horrifically defensive. Nobody ever shits on her. She's respected and idolized throughout the industry. Somebody posts death rock, a genre with close connections to goth, post punk, and glam and the Siouxsie Defense Patrol springs to action like it's somehow an attack on Siouxsie. Like what in the fuck. You can't even like bands of related subgenres anymore.
Brody Walker
Are you unable to understand perfectly sound arguments?
Oh wait, yes you are
try to disprove any of it, faggot. I'll be waiting
opinions are either right or wrong, read Plato
Stop disliking things nobody should dislike and I'll stop.
You're lucky I'm not also demanding an apology
Brandon Morris
Who would have thought that goth rock is one of the most controversial genres on Sup Forums right now
Colton Sullivan
>The issue, you see, is that as i explained earlier, being "interesting" isn't as important as being consistently catchy
1. S&TB happens to be consistently catchy across their entire discography while also being interesting.
2. I'm honestly appalled anyone would actually entertain, let alone defend, the notion that "catchiness" is more important than interesting, challenging or otherwise good compositions in music.
Chase Martin
I'm beginning to think that Grimesfags got into Siouxsie lately
Ryan Gutierrez
Did we fall on some massive bait? I feel like this can't be real.
Andrew Anderson
You need to loosen the chinstrap on your training fedora, mate. It's cutting off the circulation to your already atrophied brain. Music that doesn't meet music critic art school buzzword criteria is not automatically devoid of value. There's a place for gloomy artsy fartsy and there's a place for in-your-face good times.
William Reed
1 that's wrong, S&TB aren't consistently catchy, their more post-punk songs are the most danceable and memorable, the rest not so much
2 I'm not surprised that a Sup Forumstant would dismiss catchiness as a secondary element of musical quality when in fact it's among the topmost ones
Asher Smith
I don't know about the others, but I'm sperging especially because 45Grave is a terrible band that leeched off the goth aesthetic, much like how you would have a bunch of people shitting on you if you unironically defended Pale Waves in a goth thread or, say, Kenny G in a jazz thread when compared to the bonafide classics of their genres and areas.