If we can give hormones and treatment to trannies to help them transition to the opposite gender...

If we can give hormones and treatment to trannies to help them transition to the opposite gender, can't we do the same thing to keep them the gender they already are and make them feel comfortable about it?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
natureworldnews.com/articles/10443/20141118/homosexuality-genetic-strongest-evidence.htm
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That would be [xyz noisy words and name calling].

I think we should beat those perverts and degenerates back into line.

Guy who works in psychology here.

So far there is no way reliable way to make them consider their gender and sex line up, our best bet is to let them transition. It's a tough subject because gender dysphoria is a bitch.

>accepting Body Dysmorphic Syndrom
>using government money to help anyone but the largest fractions of the population

If people want to mutilate themselves they should find their own money to do it with.

Gender dysphoria is a real disorder, body dysmorphia usually refers to weight.

[citation needed]

Also pls no wikijew sources.

Look it up in the DSM-V.

wot?

It's the diagnostic manual for mental illnesses. We're on the 5th one now.

that doesnt work, most tranniies have a normal hormone househould if you give them extra testosterine it will fuck their bodies up.

...

>trusting the DSM after they claimed that faggotry is not a mental illness
>stuffing dicks up your bum up to the point of anal prolapse
>normal
hmmmm

why not use a sexual realignment device?

pic related is a sexual realignment device

Homosexuality was taken out because it doesn't fit the criteria for mental illness. Yes gay people fought for it, that doesn't mean that they were wrong. There are some basic and agreeable parameters for what constitutes mental illness and being homosexual alone isn't enough to qualify.

should all fetishes then be classified as mental disorders?

There will be gene therapy for this in the future.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

It's more complicated than that. Your own source tells you that it's the genetic basis is shaky and it's a combination of factors, not all of them genetic.

There is a difference between "sex" and "gender" you uneducated troglodytes. Sex is given by your genetics. Gender is what you identify with. And there is a whole spectrum of gender.

Sounds like some weird fetish you're into user.

I don't think brainwashing is morally correct.
On the other hand I don't support the attention whoring they're currently doing.

>Gender is what you identify with
who made that up?
doesnt sound like people who disregard gender roles

Speaking of weird fetishes: what's with the kikes who are into holocaust roleplay?

Because hormone treatment can't change their brains.

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.


realize how retarded the concept of "hurrrdurrr its what i identify as" is?

Why do you retards actually think we REALLY BELIEVE we're females with vaginas and XX chromosomes?

I just like living as a girl, I know I'm biologically a male.

What's the issue?

Kill yourself. Gender Identity is biological, any evolutionary biologist/psychologist or reproductive physiologist could tell you that.

Lol was not aware that's a thing. Sounds like a BDSM type roleplay. Some people like being dominated and degraded during sex.

But it really is... its akin to overeating

How about we kill them?
Trannies have high suicide rates as it is, and before they kill themself they're a burden on society.
Killing them removes that burden, and it removes an unhappy individual who was only going to suffer anyway.

No, unless acting on it prevents reproduction.

No it's not at all. They're attracted to different people than you.

The handle is a dildo.

gas 'em
i want to fart inside their kike noses

I'll just leave this here

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957

so everyone who likes blowjobs is mentally ill?

If we can give hormone treatments to mentally ill trannies, why can't I get additional testosterone treatments because I don't feel masculine enough? It's a double standard.

If we killed people who are a burden of society, than old people, neets and the unemployed would come first

If they refuse to engage in vagina inter course because they only like oral sex, then yes they're mentally ill.

It's a single case which is no where near enough to be begin basing a standard treatment off of. His learning disability likely played a role here as well.

I hold the unpopular opinion that yes, it is a mental illness.
however I think it's actually more the actual attention they get from being 'the unique trans person' playing the big role in it all.
I think if we could identify a way to make them 'comfortable' in their gender, they would just find something equally as stupid as cutting off their genitals to gain attention and feel special.

>i make up my own criteria for mental illness

what if they use condoms

That none of you faggots ever admit to you biological gender because "muh feelings", and your "people's" ridiculous demands that those of us not mentally fucked in the head must change how we act/talk around you while you become exempt from such restrictions.

You're just a bunch of attention seeking faggots who were duped by liberals who are willing to make you feel "special" for your vote, even if this means making it "okay" that you try to follow little girls to the restroom.

You need help, not coddling you fucking twink.

natureworldnews.com/articles/10443/20141118/homosexuality-genetic-strongest-evidence.htm

Any causal link to a genetics will have a therapy for it soon. Think of it this way:

Schizophrenia = Genetic
Bipolar disorder = Genetic
Homosexuality = Genetic

The fuss over homosexuality not being identified as a "mental disorder" has done more harm than good in research to find a cure/treatment.

Think of it this way. We can prescribe medications to help people with disorders that are still classified as such, but there's no funding to support a treatment for homosexuality because society has been forced to accept it as "natural" or "acceptable".

>go to doctor for having one arm too many
>tell doctor that you always identified as an amputee
>doctor now starts to cut off your fully functional arm

The doctor who did this would lose his license and end up in jail. But it's ok when it's our very sexual identity because gender politics.

Gender doesn't exist. It doesn't exist in animals, therefore it doesn't exist in humans. Only genetic sex is real.

Old people are different because they already worked for the society and deserves good treatment.

Neets and unemployed dont kill themself, and can still be rehabilitated back into society.

A transexual is a ball of unhappiness that will either kill itself or become one of those obnoxious cunts you see on TV all the time.

I say we cull the trannies, and use the funds spent on them to help our old and our unemployed.

According to the DSM They are both real disorders. The difference with treatment is one gives you therapy to accept the body you're in, and the other gives in to your mental illness.

Then they're just douchebags and parasites, not insane.

Everything you mentioned has a genetic component, that doesn't mean genes are the main factor or the only important factor. You can have the genes for schizophrenia and bipolar disorder without coming own with the disorder.

Homosexuality also does not fit the criteria for mental illness, this is very simple.

Glad we cleared that up, now why is it important hillary is running for president again?

>doesn't know what the DSM is
>tries to act smarter than anyone

Someone obviously never went to college because they teach you this in fucking Psych 100.

Common sense m8

Why can trannies get hormones and I can't?

I just want pharma test-e.

They're different conditions that have different treatments. You're oversimplifying this to the point where you're not saying anything of importance.

wow... i guess ur right

How does someone "identifying" as a woman even know how being a woman is like? Just look at all those insane trannies on Sup Forums who want to be little anime girls.

Exactly brah. It's bullshit.

The criteria is pretty common sense what you're saying isn't. Homosexuality is not a mental illness. I know very content and happy gay people who live normal lives.

>wuh homosexuality is a mental illness
>doesn't fit criteria in the DSM
>WUH IT'S A MENTAL ILLNESS BECAUSE I SAY SO

Fuck off.

Animals have different roles avoiding to sex I guess those are inborn

Maybe if your country actually started treating mental illness as what it is, you wouldn't be slowly dying out.

It was taken out from the list of mental illnesses because the concept of "illness" had socially constructed part - causing suffering. And western societies were more or less already accepting gays at that time.
As soon as we start beating homos into place, the suffering part comes back to homosexuality and then we can call it mental illness again.

Irrelevant. Homosexuality is clearly a mental disorder. If you don't think so you're either stupid or dishonest.

Are you trying to imply homosexuality is our reason for fucking up because if so you're more retarded than you seemed.

The issue Japan is undergoing is related to societal pressures. It has nothing to do with homosexuality. Most Hikki-NEETs are Hikki-NEETs because they have anxiety issues and the like.

Stop trying to sound smart because you obviously aren't.

Are you fucking stupid?

Deficiency in certain hormones is not what causes people to be trannies.

Wow, didn't expect closed minded reactions to simple evidence suggesting a causal link to homosexuality and genetics.

Gene therapy will be a thing. Mental disorders like what I mentioned before will be extinguished. This is good news!

Now I'm genuinely curious as to why you folks are so butt-hurt (no pun intended).

Unfortunately, just like for every other mental illness out there, there is no cure for sodomy, just maybe some medication to control the symptoms.
Finally, a guy that gets it.

Oh yeah getting a dick up your ass and causing anal fissures which leak fecal matter into blood stream causing sepsis and getting your dick covered in shit causing uti is so normal and progressive!

John Money.

A pedo and a guy who got another guy to kill himself

Lol thank you for confirming that the problem is ostracization and not homosexuality itself.

It's not, it doesn't fit the criteria by itself, bottom line.

I didn't say genes didn't play a role, but it's an interaction of factors. As your sources clearly tell you.

How about we measure fetal testosterone levels and consider giving hormones to people who are really in between too genders ?

A guy who works in rainbows and daydreams here. This post is 100% correct and scientific.

I don't care what your Jewish psychology professor said.

>multiple Psychologists come to decide on what a mental illness is
>homosexuality doesn't fit within this
>'you're stupid'

Do you even think before you speak?

That's not what's being argued. You tried to imply that homosexuality had anything to do with Japan's issues in mental health. It doesn't.

That's not what's being argued. I never disagreed with the idea that homosexuality is gene related.

It would be much more appropriate to give them more of the sex hormones for their biological gender.

Again, psychological is a joke of a "science". It was listed as a mental illness for years.

I'm arguing that homosexuality is mental disorder you stupid jap

That does nothing to help them.

I'm not sure if that west the best use of psychological, but I agree with this post.

And you're some random guy on Sup Forums who thinks he is qualified to talk about a field he doesn't understand.

Interesting, do you think operant and classical conditioning aren't real? Are you unaware of how psychology is applied in our daily lives with meaningful and measurable results?

I mean it's 3 out of 1000 people so most people would see it as a waste to test every single fetus. It's also more than just hormones.

Look up the drug Pimozide,and it's effects on Trannys/people wanting to cross-dress,and if I remember correctly,it has also been used on gays.Pimozide reverses the want or feel to want to be a different gender[believing it].

>Can't find a way to convice them that they're ill
>Might as well encourage them to take radical changes to their body some of whcih are permanent
>Doing so increases their likelihood for depression and suicide but hell how am I going to eat if my patients don't have issues
I pray people like you are thrown over the wall.

>never admit biological sex
> user admitted biological sex
fuck off burger, believe it or not but a group doesn't always speak for everyone.

Yep. John Hopkins pioneered the original SRS, but now they refuse to do it. There's a reason behind that. There has to be some way to treat the dysphoria, though.

I don't see how you came to that conclusion from my post. Of course I think conditioning is real. That being said, if conditioning makes someone reject facts, reconditioning is in order, not psycho play along time.

Psychology is hardly a science. You mother fuckers just make shit up and change it as you see fit, so I'm not inclined to believe for a second that tranny nutters aren't mentally ill just because it isn't in your arbitrary little manual.

Proof?

>our best bet is to let them transition
>post-op suicide rate intensifies

A. Gender dysphoria is considered a mental disorder

B. It's the most effective way for treating it that we have

C. It does not increase likelihood of depression and suicide.

Wrong on all counts, know your place.

I don't think you even understand what the field of psychology is.

Source.

but homosexuality doesn't start at birth, the predomiant idea is that it is epigenetic and as a result has a chance of occurring due to a number of variables. Needless to say genes alone do NOT cause homosexuality, it seems to be a mixture of both nature and nurture playing a role.

what about people like me?

I'm a male, now 25, whishes to be female (I don't even like dick only pussy)

I'm not retarded enough to transition, i'm not 12 it will never work

i'll look like a fucking nasty ass dragqueen

i accept the fact i will never be able to properly transition so late in my life


i just want to be comfortable in the skin i'm in

It's funny you're so condescending about a discipline that gets btfo by anyone with common sense and a basic understanding of science.

So in your mind, applying the scientific method to the human mind and behavior has not uncovered any meaningful information, even though it is practically applied across multiple fields. Maybe you should stay in school.

Don't act like psychology is a field of science. It's right up there with acupuncture and homeopathy. What I'm saying, in case your self righteous head is too far up your sanctimonious asshole, is that you're a quack.

Yeah, like when my parents caught me smoking in high school. They tried to make me stop but nothing worked so they were just like lol here's some crack then, have fun.

Yeah, best let them carve up their bodies into macabre imitations of the opposite sex that most people are repulsed by
We should encourage people to engage in other forms of self harm if it makes them feel better too!

>implying I would study a non-degree that someone landed me in a psychology class

top kekkeru

Gender dysphoria disorder sounds like a jewish meme.

tfw you are in biology class and they only show white people but you remember you are german an this is just a dream