What an incredible farce pop music has become. Recycled melodies, instrumentation, drumming. The whole thing is the same songs repurporsed and rearranged over and over again. The last pop song of note was Be The One and even that's the same old shit really.
Now the bubblegum radio music is worse than the children's music, literally simpler and more derivative.
There needs to be a revolution and its up to the 16 year olds here to figure it out.
The world is a disaster
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Why are you pretending it's any worse than it ever was
Why are you completely ignoring the fact that underground and independent music is at its all time high creatively
You are the real idiot
You should actually get into music
That's almost always been the case though
>this entire post
Sup Forums - 8th grade opinions
Poptamism was the worse thing to happen. The world needs balance. Now its just nothing but dumb sluts singing about how they are sluts and disposable nigger rap mans doing ape poetry.
The revolution already happened.
Its called hauntology and Hypnagogic pop.
Both things being at the root of the only interesting trends of this decade. Micro genres like vaporwave and chillwave and all that stupid shit.
It has not always been the case!
He's just old.
You aren't lying. Glass is half full delusional people will argue with you but its blindingly obvious, pop has never been more tired and formulaic.
>people care about pop when you can literally listen to the entire discography of some obscure 80s industrial artist for free on the internet
brainlets are truly magnificent creatures, aren't they?
Who says pop is any good now though? (Pop has pretty much sucked since the mid 00s) Unless you count rap, which imo is more interesting than it's been in a long time.
why not listen to new music that is the hauntological specter of something that might be from the 80's but is actually from this decade
I actually mostly listen to music from the 2010s, I was just making a point.
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>I actually mostly listen to music from the 2010s
you sound dumb as shit
Oh sorry, I meant I only listen to field recordings from the 1890s that were done during explorations of Alaska, my bad.
You know I know it's you without you misspelling things to signal yourself, it's just redundant.
>There needs to be a revolution and its up to the 16 year olds here to figure it out.
There was a revolution and the 16 year olds figured it out. They ousted Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. Now we have pic related.
wut
this is such a good post lmao
is it called cringe pop because all i remember is that just made everyone laugh at how stupid it was
>contrarians won't listen to pop meta PATD because they chart often
Seriously, all other pop is garbage but I'd like to here a real critisism against their pop records. It's always a non musical argument, like that teenagers like them because they end up on the radio often. If they are so generic, prove it. Take one of their songs and tell me what popshit they are THAT derivative of, since this is the rhetoric.
Most other pop is pretty trash though.
WE GONNA GET HIM WE GOT HIM E GONNA GETU WE AGATU EH GUNNA GETI N WE GOTEN
What's patd panic at disco? 'cause that was a while ago
Basically irrelevant. That retro angle has been persistently boring to me.
There is just simply put going to be qualities that you don't have words for that make up the feel of a time. Some idiots said the 00s had no sense of era but looking back you realize how much it did. There are obviously very distinctly 10s textures and feels but there's really no words for such sensations and who cares anyway.
Like the reason some particularly nerdy critic might want to get belabored with terms related to retro style is because that is the tool belt the nerdy critic works with. He doens't have a more immediate, creative relationship with things so he resorts to a game of 'spot the influence' because that's the only relationship he has - an intellectual one - and he then, as he gets older and his brain calcifies, projects this game onto everything else.
There are obviously deeply embedded formulae in, say, current rap, that extend back through its previous origins but it also curiously, indescribably manages to just assert its own feeling and style. Saying it's the same is like saying 1940s jazz is the same as 1930s jazz. It's assholishly and cluelessly reductive and basically just the sentiments of an old man who can't admit to himself that he's actually gotten old.
I dont think you get the concept.
Its not retro or nostalgia. The idea that is that its something familiar but different.
a ghost from a future that never happened.
i've managed to stay away from the radio for 2 years now. i don't even know who's in the top 10. the mainstream as we know it is a dying concept, you don't need the radio when there are thousands of obscure records waiting for you on youtube
Why a 'future' that never happened? Why was, say, post-punk, or brutalist architecture, supposed to pan out to a future that its own vision implied? Isn't that then precluding future progress / change? And how is later on going back to a style bringing back a lost future, when the present was in fact different?
I'm well aware of that stupid blogger's reading of shit and it's garbage. He was a demented neurotic who wasn't willing or able to see the inconsistencies and hypocrisies in his ideas because he was so invested in this quasi-magical attempt to fix his emotional issues through this strict, short-sighted, academic imposition on culture that occasionally touched on interesting things (which by the way, were not at all his ideas or inventions) while shoehorning in a bunch of Lacan, Jameson, Zizek, and Derrida as this supposed authoritative reading even though they were supposed to have undermined authority, but you know, academic theorists are rarely honest. But anyway, a lot of good all that effort did him. But keep feeding on his psychosis. See what it does to you.
Because the only future we have now is a capitalist boot stomping on your face forever and charging you ten dollars.
Look, you just seem like a combative asshole. So im going to go ahead and tell you to go fuck yourself.
Ah, yes, this was my first complaint of this theory: it's only the "future" when it's the communist future we were "supposed to have had" according to some theorists a hundred years ago.
Also, I'm sure that blogger leaving behind a wife and young son is all 'Capitalism's' fault. And I'm sure your creepiness is someone/something else's fault too. Keep projecting, always projecting.
You are a fraud and you always will be.
>your creepiness
>you are a fraud
>projecting
Were you looking into a mirror when you typed that?
and its not just communism you fucktard.
Anarchism, fascism, all the other failed ideologies.
You see anything around you besides globalist capitalism?
Communism just lasted the longest against the beast and when it died now we have no future but neoliberal capitalist garbage world and then maybe death by global warming and war
And communism had... what... to do with any innovations in music, ever?
Or, maybe, y'know, political ideologies don't actually figure into actual artistic creation. Okay, when you have cynical hacks only thinking economically, some real dull formulaic garbage can result, I actually agree with this, but Marxists have just as economic-numbers-based a view. They have pretty much nothing to say about creativity. There were improbably a few bright bulbs who happened to be living and creating in the early Soviet Union but it was hardly any more output or the rule that it was necessarily communistic in any rhetoric around it than other bursts of creativity of the time. Similar things happened elsewhere in almost completely opposite terms!
And by the way I'm actually very critical of capitalism but I don't like seeing art / music reduced to political spiels because it's bullshit. And it gets no results anyways. I suppose poor Mark finally realized this. Of course he had been blessed with what matters in life, but y'know, that bloody Capitalism!!
At least try to hide you're underage.
Its not about music.
Its about time.
Its about not being able to picture a different future anymore.
>Derrida's concept of hauntology has most prominently been applied to a segment of 21st-century musicians exploring ideas related to temporal disjunction, retrofuturism, cultural memory, and esoteric cultural sources from the past.[10][8][11] According to Mark Fisher, the movement represents contemporary electronic music’s “confrontation with a cultural impasse: the failure of the future.”[12]
>There needs to be a revolution and its up to the 16 year olds here to figure it out.
16 year olds are most likely the reason poptimism became a thing here
You can create music on google doodles. Just think about that.
Music is becoming less and less human and it's only a matter of time until it becomes completely written by AI's (it's already happening). Capitalist commodification and the resulting mindset injected upon the general populace has killed any and all sense of genuine artistic expression.
>people care about modern music that is just dumbing down older music when people can listen to the entirety of old music free on the internet
>has become
As opposed to when?
I'm not saying that Halsey is anything other than a bald bitch. I'm saying that for better or worse, the "revolution" against pop music has happened. Now all pop music sounds like indie music did in 2012.