vegetarian here. i dont give a fuck if you like eating meat, but the thing that bothers me to no end about you carnivores is that youre always making excuses about why its okay to eat certain animals and not others. stop with the fucking fake bullshit.
i would have a lot more respect for you if you just owned up and said "i disapprove of the mistreatment of horses, cats, and dogs, but i dont give a fuck about pigs, cows, or chickens or any of the suffering involved in their lives because i like to eat them"
fucking faggots and your stupid justifications. just admit the obvious so i can move on with my life.
If it came down to it and I was hungry enough, I would eat a dog or a cat, I have probably eaten horse already and I eat raccoons on occasion, so no issue with any cuddly critters. Though I admit I would be hesitant to eat a dog and would feel guilt.
Alexander Wilson
>veg stopped reading
William Bell
DESU I think I'd starve before I ever ate a dog.
Also, probably no rodents - not that I care about them, but they disgust me.
Ian Adams
>vegetarian here
Hunter Rodriguez
you can throw your health into the trash if you don't become a vegetarian soon, goyim.
Hunter Martin
wow u r so right my mind is literally opened... if u reely believe we are discriminating animals then go eat dogs u fug n i will continue to enjoy eating a chopped off cows ass an laffin @ u @ the same time ya dunce
Colton Morgan
I will eat any meat that tastes good. unfortunately dog doesn't. but horse is delicious
Logan Rogers
>Not hunting for your food. Are a Anglo or Germanic? For only they are so pampered to make something so inconsequential out of nothing
Asher Evans
Animals are not humans and have no rights. You are free to enjoy them as pets or food. You don't have to treat a property in a non-hypocrite way. That's retarded
Hunter Nguyen
>sicklyandpaleOPsuckingacock.jpg
Cameron Clark
>I don't care but I care
Nathaniel Martinez
yea my dad ate dog meat in korea while he was in the army he told me it didnt even taste good
Evan Williams
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Grayson Thompson
i disapprove of the mistreatment of horses, cats, and dogs, but i dont give a fuck about pigs, cows, or chickens or any of the suffering involved in their lives because i like to eat them
Josiah Brown
B A I T T H R E A D A I T T H R E A D I T T H R E A D T T H R E A D
shit i'm hungry
John Watson
Animals don't have rights
Animals don't think in a human way. They only engage in life on the sensory level.
Animals exist to serve humans even in death to be eaten
If you think animals have human level intelligence or should have rights you are brainwashed
Obviously I am not saying its all fine and good to mistreat your dog but you have to take this to its logical conclusion
Animal rights activists want to destroy the human race and make it impossible to survive
Chase Foster
>Animals are not humans and have no rights. yeah, maybe in spain. Try killing a dog or a horse or whatever in front of the police, there are laws you know.
Ryan Nelson
>carnivores
You realize this is literally impossible, right? We're omnivores.
What about plant life you selfish fuck? It's okay to put animal life above plant life and say that because animals are more complex, it's okay to eat plants, but when you follow the same logic and try to put Humans above animals and say it's okay to eat them because they're less complex, you hypocritical fucks get all emotional.
Whats with people caring more for animals than their own species?
Henry Jones
Stop right there.
Focus all your efforts on halal and kosher slaughter practices.
You're welcome.
Gabriel Cook
Being vegetarian or vegan is like being a cis white male these days. Everyone will shut you down right then and there on that merit alone. Why is it so crazy to not want to eat an animal? Participating in the forced reproduction and harvest of domesticated animals in an isolated environment is pretty degenerate, desu.
Landon Gutierrez
Sure, but you seem to arbitrarily draw lines.
Participating in the forced reproduction and harvest of domesticated plant life in an isolated environment is okay though, right?
Tyler Brooks
By the way in case you didnt know some animals, notably fish, don't feel pain. However plants do feel pain
Easton Mitchell
Some of them taste better than others.
>just admit the obvious so i can move on with my life Why are you waiting for my permission to move on with your life? Get on with it if you want to so badly.
Joshua Bell
Amen. I would be impressed if meat eaters could actually admit that they don't give one shit about pigs, cows or chickens lives or suffering. Or at least that they don't care enough to make any type of effort to not support and fund the abuse.
At that point I'm like, "oh, ok you don't care about animal welfare. Well I guess that's the way you are, good luck with that." But instead they want to be little cunts who tell you how evil it is if you don't walk your dog enough, or dont have a big enough cage for your rabbit. Fuck off. Bitches be using Mac makeup that pins open rabbits eyes and poisons them in the animal testing labs.
Juan Torres
I would strangle my own cat and eat it if I was starving. But we have lifestock specifically bread for food atm.
Austin White
I agree, it's just not neccesary.
Jayden Perry
Abritray. What about plants and their lives? You obviously don't give a shit about them. I bet you swat flies and step on cockroaches too.
You're just arbitrarily drawing lines based on your feelings you little cuck. We're above ALL other life. Not just plants and insects, all animals too. Killing ANY of it is OUR PRIVILEGE as Humans.
Daniel Bennett
You can't destroy someone's car i in front of the police. That doesn't give the car "rights". That's protection if anything.
Dominic Carter
The line is unneccesary suffering of animals. A plant doesn't feel shit when you cut it, unlike a pig or a dog.
Brody Lopez
I odnt give a fuck how that animal was treated. If Im hungry enough I will beat a dog to death and eat that bitch raw.
if you think we're that far beyond animals you're pretty dumb
John Rivera
>a plant doesn't feel shit when you cut it
But it does. They all do. You're just fucking ignorant to it because it doesn't have a mouth to scream. Plants feel and move too.
Logan Brown
??? That is not allowed because the rights of humans stretch as far as the object they ''own'', unlike animals which according to your way of thinking don't even have the right to live.
Wyatt Walker
No other lifeform is capable of the things Humans have built and the things we understand. If they were, we'd be having Human vs variousintelligentanimalshere wars. Are we? No.
Gabriel Green
weak bait
Isaiah Wright
no need to eat meat really, you're just used to it. old habits die hard etc.
i feel better since i stopped eating meat and breastfeeding from cows
I'm sure that people "own" animals. And they are like a property.
Daniel James
>evidence is weak bait
Nah but claiming it's weak bait is pretty good bait. Here's your (You)
Luis Martin
Having rights means that you have a responsibility to act in a certain way.
You have the right to defend yourself because you are expected to defend your life if someone is trying to kill you.
Animals have no moral code or conscience
Furthermore, if you give "rights" to animals where do you logically draw the line? You make arbitrary distinctions based on how you feel about certain animals
Compare dogs to ants. You are assigning random values to certain creatures. The only difference is that for humans…dogs are more beneficial.
Dogs or another animals do not contemplate the meaning of their lives, form governments etc
Animals do not think like humans. They are sensory creatures
Modern scientists make the mistake of anthropomorphizing animal interactions
The puppy is happy The puppy is sad
The puppy does not understand these emotional concepts you are simply applying them to animals
Elijah Garcia
we're fighting Islam right now
Ian Hernandez
All those animals you listed are domesticated and have been molded by primitive eugenics programs for their exact modern purposes since before you earliest literate ancestor was a tingle in the balls of someone who would have drowned you in the river for being frail and a detriment to the tribe. Fuck off.
Nathaniel Thomas
I'd probably kill and eat my dog if I was starving too. But I've been vegan for a while and honestly don't feel I will ever go back, there is really just no need to support factory farming. If I'm running low on money for produce, there is still cheap pastas, rice, beans, potatoes ect. So it's not a money issue. If I want to taste meat there are some shitty, but also some damn good brands of vegan meat. My favorite is gardien. And if i want milk with my creal or icecream there is soy milk or coconut milk or almond milk stuff. There are vegan cheeses too.
But for people who hunt their food, honestly, if you can stand the gore I do think it's a step up for factory farming if it's not done excessively. At least the animals get a chance at a decent life before dying, and at least they are not hormone and antibiotic ridden and dirty af. And it's better for carbon emissions to cut out the middle man.
Austin Cruz
Kek that's funny, but unfortunately Humans created and are a part of Islam.
Lincoln Martinez
retarded or slightly better bait, are you really implying you posted any kind of evidence? Learn some critical thinking skills.
Jason Price
Veganism causes less plant deaths because most of the plants go to feed the animals people eat. It is also better for the environment and that benefits every breathing thing on the earth.
Gavin Richardson
Those pigs and cattle and chickens would not fucking exist if they weren't so edible. They would have been extinct long long ago. We give them life, and we are all for the ethical treatment, long lives, free range, etc.
Charles Brooks
but dude bacon tastes good hahaha fuck all that shit xD
Landon Richardson
Why do you only eat certain vegetables and not others? You should eat some poison ivy salad and stop being such a hypocrite.
Christian Morris
if it's raised to be a pet it isn't meant to be eaten. if i go somewhere where they raise dogs to be food i expect to eat dog. but they won't be cooking my dog.
Cooper Gutierrez
There's tons of studies on the matter. Is it really that hard to Google? Maybe your argument would be better if you posted counter evidence that supports claims that plants don't feel anything. Except those don't exist so all you're left with is denying science and evidence that they do feel.
>inb4 burden of proof
You were already linked to some. Dispute it with facts or fuck offf.
Tyler Howard
Too bad we're forever omnivores and require meat to survive.
Luke Kelly
Also, at least you can admit you feel it is "our privilege" to do anything to any animal that we want to. Just don't be one of those idiots telling anyone else how to treat any animal ever. Not their pets or anything. If you condemn any animal abuse you are a hypocrite since you give humans that right.
Landon Hernandez
I really don't give a fuck what animal it is. As long as it's safe and it tastes good I don't car if it's cat, horse, or gecko.
Nolan Lee
OP is technically correct, which is why it makes the shitposters here so mad.
Bentley Adams
>The puppy does not understand these emotional concepts you are simply applying them to animals Yes but would you not agree your dog can be in a shitload of pain? And would you not want to prevent this? Ofcourse the lines are somewhat arbitrary but a logical way of drawing lines would be based on intellegence, humans are capable of a lot more suffering then an ant or a dog, but that doesn't mean the dog can suffer aswell.
Hudson Lewis
There's this thing called responsibility. Just because you have the right or ability to do something, especially something horrible, doesn't mean you should do it. In fact, it means you need to be responsible and reserve your power for important things and not abuse it.
I can condemn animal abuse because it's not the right thing to do, despite us being well within our rights to do it.
You cuck.
Angel Lee
After the while the animals coming into the meatworks on the trucks reminded of jews rolling into the concentration camps aboard trains. It is amazing how humans and animals have the same expressions in the moments leading up to their slaughter. I tell you what, there more than a few people i would like to hang in an refrigerator, gut, skin, quarter and bone up!
I also like leaving work looking like a i just survived the Battle of Cannae.
Samuel Ortiz
>require meat to survive citation needed
Juan Reyes
Ok, so retarded it is. quora.com/Do-plants-feel-pain first result, can't be arsed to look further. And whether you like it or not, burden of proof is indeed on your shoulders.
Landon Rodriguez
i agree OP, i would kill all the animals equally
Noah Perry
t. All of human history and biology
Henry Smith
I'm making excuses because you demand them instead of letting me eat in peace.
Jack Scott
This pasta is stale
Matthew Thompson
i dont give a fuck what it is as long as its not poisonous . i would eat people if they sold human meat at the grocery store and it had to pass fda inspections
Jayden Russell
well they sense pain so yes
and i do want to prevent this because dogs are awesome
just understand that we are arbitrarily picking and choosing who we like and who we want to protect
these rights we give animals are arbitrary and should not apply to the entire animal kingdom
we just do it because we are nice
Adrian Kelly
It's not the right thing to fucking treat the animals in factory farms the way they are treated.
Go take the responsibility to do it right and at the very least hunt them ethically. You are a fucking coward of a man, if you are going to bitch about someone kicking a puppy and you fund and support the heinous torture of millions of animals. You are worse than the dog kicker, why pretend you aren't. Because you pay someone else to abuse animals? Coward.
Andrew Walker
>Their electrochemical processes that alert the whole organism to physical distress aren't *real* pain. Wow how bigoted of you.
>organisms need brains to experience sensory phenomenon >despite the fact there are already brainless organisms which do experience many senses
Parker Lewis
The point of all this, is to stop exploitation of beings which have the right to live, and you keep saying ''arbitrary'' but its really not that arbitrary the point is to minimize suffering of animals which whe know are capable of it, which include dogs and cats, but also all the animals you eat....
Benjamin Cooper
Humans are omnivores
Michael Walker
Puppies have not been bred for thousands of years to be food stock.
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Jack Hall
the have the right to live if they can fight for it. mother nature is far harsher than humanity is
Charles Phillips
humans can eat cardboard and drink bleach if we wanted to. doesn't mean we should.
see we're not really omnivores
Easton Howard
>the right to live There's no such thing. All life is a struggle.
THIS IS NECESSARY
LIFE FEEDS ON LIFE FEEDS ON LIFE FEEDS ON LIFE
THIS IS NECESSARY
Parker Cooper
>reacting to the world is the same as being able to suffer.
Yeah my phone suffered alot when I dropped it the other day. Because you know it can sense my fingers when I touch the screen, so it must be able feel pain aswell.
Ayden Nelson
You'd be less judgmental if you had some nice bacon.
Evan Edwards
Cuck here. I spend all my time bitching about how you eat meat, but the thing that bothers me to no end about you regular human beings is that you're always having fun and getting laid. Stop reminding me of how much of a cuck I am.
Please give me attention. No one is paying attention to me. Why do you guys hate me so much?
Cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck! Here a cuck, there a cuck, eveywhere a cuck, cuck. Cuck-a-doodle-doo!
Thomas Phillips
omnivore here. i dont give a fuck if you like eating activated almonds, but the thing that bothers me to no end about you vegetarians is that you're always making excuses about why its okay for humans to suffer but not animals.
i would have a lot more respect for you if you just owned up and said "i disapprove of the mistreatment of horses, cats, and dogs, pigs, cows, or chickens or any of the suffering involved in their lives but fuck humans because i'm desensitized to human suffering"
fucking faggots and your stupid justifications. just admit the obvious so i can move on with my life.
Chase Miller
I generally only eat farmed animals or wild game, because they're safe to eat.
But besides that, if I'm hungry enough, I'll eat anything except a human or maybe a great ape.
Samuel Stewart
Look at it this way: What if plants feel pain too?
If they feel pain >reduce the suffering by exploiting and farming them less >the plants grown go to feeding people not billions of animals forcibly bred to eat.
They don't feel pain >irrelevant. We don't have to worry about it
Eating meat is uses up more plant food (to feed and raise your food) than just eating the plants. Look it up. Vegans and vegetarians do NOT cause more plant deaths than meat eaters.
Austin Ward
Yeah but where does it logically end the "suffering of animals"
Why do you value a dog over an entire colony of ants?
Its arbitrary and based on emotions
Animals do not deserve rights and if we gave every animal the right to live
NOTHING in the world could be built because you would be trampling over a colony or a nest or whatever
Can we reduce the suffering of animals we care about? Yes. Should we? In some cases. In what cases? In cases where humans really like the animal. (Domesticated animals)
If we can eliminate practices that cut down on the suffering of an animal before it is being killed for food…should we do it. Yes as much as possible.
What if we cannot or it is impractical to do so…well it doesn't actually matter
The point is animals don't matter aside from what they give to humans.
We decide their value because we are humans. We have souls. We have intelligence…they do not.
People who put animals or plants on the same level as humans are incredibly dumb.
Eli Thompson
All humans are omnivores because we can digest meat and veggies. The word you're looking for is "Carnitarian."
I don't have any special diet preferences, but I approve of the eating of all non-human animals. Under the right circumstances (ie: imminent starvation,) I would probably eat a person as well. Ergo, what the fuck are you talking about, veggiefag? Gb2 Veggietales and learn proper grammar.
Ian Young
one of the reasons for vegetarianism/veganism is that animal agriculture is massively damaging for the planet... which affects all humans.
also many veggies feel the plants grown to feed thousands of huge 500kg cows would be better used to feed starving countries
Nicholas Thomas
Cows and chickens are dumb animals, they have the mental capacity of a rock Dogs and horses are smart animals capable of thinking and having the mental capacity of a small child
Also, cows are delicious
Matthew Clark
Humans evolved to cooperate with dogs, which means no, don't eat it Horses are useful to Humans, so no, don't eat it Pigs, cows, and chickens are natural prey for Humans
Ever noticed how some animals don't eat Humans but eat everything else? Because it's not their natural prey.
Benjamin Jackson
we could eat inspects too that would be even more efficient or are their lives not worth killing?
Carter Lopez
yeah it's true, eating insects would be better for the environment. many places around the world already eat insects and have done for thousands and thousands of years. what's your point though?
Christopher Cooper
Be a good goy and drink that soy
Eli Thompson
Pescetarian reporting in.
I eat fish because fish eat other fish. I don't eat animals that don't eat any other.
Matthew Moore
Some animals have been artificially selected for consumption and others have not.
>dogs Eating other carnivores is a dumb idea. Also too useful to eat unless no other options. Can you eat them? Yes.
>horses Certain cultures already eat horses, but in the west they were always used for transportation first and were a status symbol. Can you eat horses? Of course.
>cats Scavengers and riddled with parasites. I would not own a cat. Let alone eat it.
>rodents See above.
If tomorrow everyone became vegans, the population of all species used as livestock would fall dramatically in the next century. Eventually, they'd go extinct or be rendered feral scavengers on the periphery of garbage dumps and slums.
Cows, pigs, sheep, horses, dogs etc occupy a unique niche in the ecosystem. To stop using them is to destroy their niche.
Hudson Rodriguez
>People who put animals or plants on the same level as humans are incredibly dumb. I'm not doing this, as you can read in my previous post. I agree with this statement btw.
>Animals do not deserve rights and if we gave every animal the right to live
>NOTHING in the world could be built because you would be trampling over a colony or a nest or whatever
I also agree with the point that giving animals rights should not interfere with the succes of the human species. Take transportation, every day alot of people and animals die becouse of us driving cars. This is a neccesary lose and I don't mind it. However the consumption of animals for dietery reasons is not neccesary, because there are plenty of alternatives. >inb4 but it tastes so good. then you're just weak willed.
Levi Lewis
They're not worth it eating except in desperate situations. Or tarantula. Tarantula is tasty and has enough meat to justify harvesting. Not an insect, I know, but I'm assuming you're just talking about non-oceanic arthropods in general.
Easton Rivera
Is anyone on Sup Forums really sensitive to humans suffering and feelings though? Us vegans are in the same boat as most of Sup Forums. >1 I am very much convinced that most people are getting sheparded and cucked into some degenerate way of life >2 I want you to see it >3 I forgot that once upon a time I didn't think this way and forget to be understanding to other >4 I'm an edgy faggot
Nathan Myers
>comparing inanimate objects to life
I'm comparing living life forms to other living life forms.