The point of these threads is to encourage people to look for new and interesting music. We do this by listening to and ideally discussing albums we've never heard before. Many of us already listen to new music daily, these people are in it to venture "out of their comfort zone" by listening to albums they otherwise wouldn't have, or just to have a good time.
i wonder what Consume Red would sound like in reverse.
Ian Clark
even worse?
Easton James
It makes a completely different album. It inspired Kendrick Lamar's latest album.
Lincoln Rogers
some shit been on my mine lately..
aside from maybe a dozen artists ever, lyricists aren't even worth half a shit as poets so evaluating lyricism, especially in popular music, (or at least holding it as such an important aspect of music) is essentially pointless
in the world of semi-well-known music, I can list maybe a dozen artists who are good lyricsts AND songwriters
stephin merritt the friedberger duo dylan cohen mf doom van zandt /maybe/ nick cave (usually not though) elliott smith mitchell walker elverum jamie stewart
at least in the english language that's all I could come up with
holding lyricism in such a high regard, occasionally on the same level as the actual music (looking at you christgau and r/hiphopheads) is a stupid way music nerds have made art more academic and less accessible
idk I'm really jetlagged atm so I'm more prone to shit takes. Debate me or don't ig
Grayson Jones
also holding lyricism in such high regard makes your taste in music very anglocentric and ur probably racist for doing so sorry sweaty ;)
Ryan Gutierrez
lyrics are a meme anyway
though i did a panera bread commercial a 4.5 so what do i know
Isaac White
>lyricists aren't even worth half a shit as poets but would poets even be worth a shit as lyricists? they're meant to be consumed differently so they're written differently so you can't hold them to the same standards. doesn't mean you're not allowed to let them influence your score or anything like that. they have an effect.
Zachary Clark
Seek counselling for your autism, jesus fuck.
Jack Reed
These are just artists who write like written-word poets though. You’re conflating the two. It’s an overly highbrow outlook on songwriting. Everything looks like a nail when you’re a hammer, etc.
Who’s to say Hank Williams or Woodie Guthrie don’t write just perfectly for their music? This should be the better yardstick.
Thomas Jackson
ALSO ANYONE THAT DOES THAT SHIT WHERE THEY CITE ONE MEME LYRIC AS A REASON THAT A RAPPER IS BAD (ex: "I keep it 300 like the romans", "doritos, fritos, or cheetos", etc.) YOU ARE 1000% A COP
I've probably had this take before, but when I see albums like Pure Comedy get so much praise for being essentially good poetry set to mediocre/bad music it really confuses me and makes it seem like people care about lyricism almost MORE than they do the actual music
>doesn't mean you're not allowed to let them influence your score or anything like that. they have an effect. Not at all what I'm saying. There are plenty musicians (specifically the ones I listed, plus probably many others) which are very worth evaluating for their lyrics. My central point is that the list of people who are good lyricists is so minuscule that placing music on the same pedestal as the lyrics is worthless. Lyrics are a tiny aspect of songwriting, and to many songwriters, almost an afterthought.
>they're meant to be consumed differently so they're written differently so you can't hold them to the same standards I agree. This also means we shouldn't evaluate music like it is poetry then.
Again, my point is how music reviewers look at music in a poetic "academic" sense which is imo harmful to the artform and pointless
hii ;)
>It’s an overly highbrow outlook on songwriting this is actually a really good point and part of what I was trying to say. Writing lyrics that suit your music is a million times more effective than writing "good" "poetic" lyrics.
The list I made was just the small list of people I could think of that were good poets in a traditional sense and good songwriters just as proof that the list is so small and evaluating all music on that scale is worthless.
Thomas Gomez
sorry about the autism I have homework to do bii
Aiden Thompson
ah yeah we pretty much agree then. i suspect most people would principially agree as well but still do this "meme one awkward line to make a song look ridiculous" thing you're probably talking about to be cheeky cunts?
Dylan Walker
Yeah, I agree then. Critics ought to care more about lyrics to the extent that they work with the music. I think successful lyrics should just go by unnoticed a lot of times. Doesn't need to be literary or bold or extravagant unless the music calls for it
Kayden Miller
idk I've seen this image plenty times as "proof" mf doom is bad but idc if it's a meme anyone that shares it is a cop 1000000%
>I think successful lyrics should just go by unnoticed a lot of times. Doesn't need to be literary or bold or extravagant unless the music calls for it yes yes yes
Jason Taylor
>I think successful lyrics should just go by unnoticed a lot of times. wtf no that's not it why
Hunter Flores
Because it’s a sign that music and meaning are simpatico
Aiden Wright
Just because you consume music too fast to understand the lyrics doesn't mean they are worthless and not important.
Jeremiah Brown
Looks like you forgot all the jazz and classical.
Jacob Martinez
this seems like it's more about how music nerds take a goofy ass album like madvillainy as seriously as they do than how doom is bad, could be about iaots as well for all i care no you see your generalization fails at the most basic principle which is lyrics i like > lyrics i don't like fuck off racist
Kayden Nguyen
looks like you haven't listened to jazz and classical with lyrics.
Daniel Campbell
Lyrics you don't like stick out and don't go by unnoticed of course
Tyler Wood
Right, but Looks like you forgot all the jazz and classical.
Michael Gomez
a memorable lyric (/song/album) is always better than one which isn't
Henry Smith
>racist What the hell, I have 3 jigaboo friends and listen to the blacks' music all the time.
Lincoln Bell
I can name 100 stupid lyrics off the top of my head that hands-down kill the vibe of a song
Jayden Scott
but you can name them
Dominic Roberts
If you think you can impede me from pulverising the proverbial dead horse of my bad memes down to the very atoms, you are sorely mistaken.
Isaac Evans
Someone sounds jealous ;^)
Mason James
I'm a 6'2" engineer with a massive wang that listens to art music and reads high literature, what could I possibly be jealous of?
Jackson Allen
better taste in music
Carter Wright
it's not even memes at this point it's dad catchphrases at this point >"Listening to some of them bleepy bloops, son? Looks like you've accidentally forgot all the Jazz and Classical, hahaha!" >"What's that? Hot Rats by Frank Zappa? No!" >"Truly, there is no greater pleasure than sitting down with a craft beer and writing some reports to the sounds of French Minimalism!"
Joseph James
wow. Everyone is very jealous of you being a STEM irony lord. Very unique and definitely not every redditor ever
Carson Taylor
Fuck it, mark me down for a full fledge poseur because I'm bumping this to a 5.0
This album fucking rips, any lesser known gems in the same vein?
Asher Bell
Let's see some girls (or dudes) getting filled up with eggs. Tentacle monsters, insects, slimes, whatever.
Samuel Robinson
>Zach Phillips - I Can't Predict My Past Actions >pop like a sad, gross ball of pop synths, young adult angst, and bill wurtz conglomerated together. 5-
>Joanna Wang - House of Bullies >Art Pop, Avant Prog The poppier, more broadway based version of Kilo Kish - Reflections in Real Time. Both are very polished, and the strange slice-of-life songwriting exude charm with loneliness. Interesting backstory, and also kinda shows why this isn't nearly as diverse sounding as it could have been.
7
>Hail - Hello Debris >Prog Pop Probably the cleanest and most consistent sounding album I've heard on this chart thus far, making the album very consistently enjoyable. Lighter on the zany aspects, but the, subtle synths, excellent drumming, and stolid vocals work very well. Songs like Hello 1 and The Bridge Song Not an outright shocking album, but just about as comfy as a warm drink. The drifting between rock jams and pop melodies is even more curious when the instruments accompanying said structures can travel anywhere between psychedelic to baroque. Gladly handing this an 8.
Only girls or dudes? Welp, looks like I'll have to sit this one out.
Isaiah Gray
May I please have an older Cirno with big boobs and a futa cock fucking Rumia, who also mature looking, has boobs and a cock, with both having ahego faces? There could be cum, but that's optional
Brody White
Also looking for your best percussion-heavy North Indian classical music thanks luv u
I've been filling in what I've been listening to when on holiday on rym and aside from the Candy Claws LP my ratings have been literally the same as Accel am I a subconscious drone or something Some albums lose a lot of their inherent value when listened to without lyrics though. I also dislike pure comedy but for artists like Kate Tempest it's vital to be paying attention to lyricism
Jose Clark
back the fuck off?!?!
Jason Nguyen
African Screamo Contest
Colton Nelson
Bump
Joshua Ward
the drone consistency on the ratings seems to drop on the more esoteric albums, but your ratings are freakishly similar lmao You're definitely building up one hell of a backlog too, maybe the drone mind will wear off there
Also i downloaded Head and leg - in your dreams, looks comfy. what should i expect?
Gabriel Green
Alright r/daily, since I never did that stupid daily chart and I'm getting sick of this equally stupid freeform chart, I'm going to be doing a tournament, so you fuckers better join. The rules/guidelines are as follows:
All entries require three (3) albums of any length for each stage of the tournament (nothing over 2/3 hours unless you really want me to). Entry can be any album, even ones I've heard before (yes even Bryter Layter). I have NOT listened to any of the classics/mu core/daily core/poseur core, so anything is fair game. My rym: rateyourmusic.com/~crunchmiser so plebs can custom tailor their submissions. Be strategic with your entries, I have incredibly impressionable taste so really do save the best for last.
Hopefully this'll give me something to do for a good week or so, don't disappoint and good luck.
Liam Mitchell
Nick Drake Bryter Layter 3 times
Daniel White
Nick Drake Bryter Layter 3 times
Colton Bailey
Nick Drake Bryter Layter 3 times
Aaron Hill
also what if theres a difference between dont like and dislike also what if you replaced "kill the vibe" with "add a new dimension to"
a wilhelm scream - ruiner a wilhelm scream - career suicide a wilhelm scream - partycrasher
Isaac Walker
Melt-banana - cell-scape ミラクルミュージカル - Hawaii pt II The United States of America s/t
Ryan Perez
This is obviously Comet
Hunter Davis
Townes Van Zandt - Live at the Old Quarter Keith Jarrett - The Köln Concert Sandy Bull - Fantasias for Guitar and Banjo
Julian Bailey
James Ferraro - Live at Primavera Sound 2012 Björk - Vespertine Fishmans - Long Season '96~7 - 96.12.26 Akasaka Blitz
Gabriel Butler
Luciano Cilio - Dialoghi Del Presente Tim Buckley - Dream Letter 1968 Olivier Messiaen: Steven Osborne - Vingt regards sur l'enfant-Jésus
Christian Clark
Graham Lambkin - Amateur Doubles Charlemagne Palestine - The Golden Mean Keiji Haino, Jim O'Rourke & Oren Ambarchi - This Dazzling, Genuine "Difference" Now Where Shall It Go?
Easton Cox
Right but you doubt this phenomenon exists? That a song can have a really ill-advised or meaningless or stupid or clunky lyric without any second thought that really misses the mark. It's not at all in line with the intended meaning or mood. And the added dimension...is that it's bad?
I get it, you'll say there's no objectively proving something is bad.
Nicholas Cook
It'd be heaven on earth if cops were drafted and not hired
Joshua Jackson
new ryuichi sakamoto and alva noto album is good, just wish it was longer and that it didn't fade out so quickly. loved the plinking sounds, has a very crystalline timbre to them.
Luke Morris
Right on choof
Noah Campbell
not sure why I quoted you lmao my bad
Henry Cooper
Who is the most mysterious /daily/ user?
Jonathan Green
haino's been shilling his music in here for years he doesn't even have an rym.
>Hobo Cubes - Timeless/Mindless decent progressive electronics. i wish the tracks had more time to develop. hobo cubes hits be hardest when they develop on a sound for so long you just melt into it.
>Sun Araw - The Saddle of the Increate some real weird shit, which is surprising from what i had heard from araw up to this point. everything i had heard from him up to this point were psychy tropical jams, so i was surprised when someone suggested this for my "post internet" list. while i can't really say it fits that label (sadly) i can say it's fairly unique. it turns out that mr. araw ha not changed in seven years as much as he did distill, and not in the normal ways of either becoming extremely poppy or wallofsound noise drone. araw has converted the summery slime into a paradise of midi controllers, ragas, and bleeps not out of place on a bbc radiophonic workshop compilation. the sound is both alien and familiar, playing well off the rest of araw's discography. don't take this as me saying it's just a cool gimmick either. you could easily put this on and drift away regardless of how avant you go. hoping to see more cowboy fetishism from this boy in the very near future.
>A. G. Cook & Life Sim - Xtreme Mixology i wish it was harder. life sim's minimalist style held back cook's primal urge to make this into the nu style gabber masterpiece that it contains in its web. there is a lot to like about it though. big bratt is a bump.
Ethan Thompson
>Michael Pisaro / Barry Chabala / Katie Porter - Asleep, Street, Pipes, Tones bass clarinet and electric guitar imitate the sounds of urban environments, or is it the other way around? for those still iffy on onkyo/eai stuff, there are a lot of melodic passages on here. the technique of alternating waves of silence and audio is used to amazing effect here. there's such a wonderful variety that every passage is welcome and memorable.
>Leyland Kirby - Eager to Tear Apart the Stars the album suffers in a lot of the same ways that many of his other acoustic works do. too much space with too little structure, and fairly muddy production. no longer distance than death contains an exciting passage that consists of in key bass distortion threatening to destroy my computer which is really exciting.
what next?
Christopher Price
>this post
>la-di-da-di-da, slob on me knob
Are there still open spots? Because I'd be down to lose another tourney in the first round
howdy y'all, gonna be away from /daily/ the rest of the weekend and most of next week/weekend, going home and up to rochester to see tyler/vince staples and visit some friends.
watched the big sick tonight, v v good
take this with a grain of salt, because Torment Saint isn't the best source, but I think a lot of Elliott's lyrics were co-written, or entirely written by someone else, at least around the roman candle/self-titled era.
Aiden Long
The Unkle Adams shitposting got me to try one of his songs, I regret it
That was pretty good, how is the rest of the album? Rabbota Ho's music took very different approaches on each album, their most famous is like DEVO while Tanets is like some extremely demented dance punk music.
Ryan Anderson
hello pick something from this i haven't numbered even if it just looks neat
