After the whole explosion on Youtube with the identity video, I have come here to ask a question...

After the whole explosion on Youtube with the identity video, I have come here to ask a question. What is the problem with transgenderism? Science has proven that conversion therapy does not work, telling them "you are a man" doesn't work. Reassignment surgery has been proven to be the best method for remedying the issue. What's the problem with calling someone by their preferred pronouns?

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theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth
endtransdiscrimination.org/report.html
youtube.com/watch?v=aDAU3SPYFsA
problematicpeople.com/breaking-down-point-5-of-gender-ideology-harms-children/
nhs.uk/Livewell/Transhealth/Pages/Transparentalworries.aspx
bbc.co.uk/news/health-36275877
standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/where-girl-meets-boy-why-are-child-referrals-to-londons-gender-identity-clinic-rising-so-sharply-a3245416.html
telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/19/choose-your-gender-aged-four/
independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/referrals-to-englands-only-childrens-gender-identity-clinic-have-doubled-every-year-since-2009-a6979711.html
shoebat.com/2015/11/04/homosexuals-in-the-military-are-raping-and-molesting-tens-of-thousands-of-american-soldiers-in-just-one-year-the-homosexuals-have-raped-57750-american-soldiers-if-you-support-the-troops-then-fight/
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It's degenerate

they're a portion of the population that would be better off not existing. no one would notice if they all disappeared either desu.

How? Is being anorexic degenerate? People seem to like to hate on transgenders just because they are showing pride and confidence, despite their situation. What was so "wrong" with the youtube video?

Listen man, I don't care if you want to think of yourself as an attack helicopter, just don't go into my life and start demanding special treatment and attention for your mental illness

the problem is treating mental illness like it's normal

it leads to quite a bit of confusion

The mentally ill should be gassed.

But I'm not sure about transgenders. I don't think they're even mentally ill. Just highly impressionable and stupid.

>science has proven
post it

Science also proves that penis =/= vagina.

Inside out penis =/= to vagina.

Penis + testicles = man
Vagina+ ovaries = woman

Seriously. Take a biology class in high school and you'll realize this.

>catering to 0.3% of the population

No, thanks.

> reassignment surgery proven best method
sure, i guess suicide is a close second?
theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth

I don't have a problem with it. What I do have a problem is with this notion of pampering them and treating them like helpless victims who need our suppor

Because when I show pride for being straight I get called a problematic privileged bigot. Same for being white.

Reassignment is a placebo.
Not a single demographic is as suicidal as the transgenders.
Guess why.

First post is best post. Piss off degenerate OP.

You don't fix mental illness by dismemberment.

>Science has proven
stopped reading there.

Show me the scientific/medical paper that scientifically proves there are suddenly 30 new genders and all the millions of species that have existed for millions of years were all wrong this whole time.

>science has proven

Science has proven that there's only two genders

Enabling mental illness, post op suicide rate, etc. Now fuck off back to /r/faggot.

Remember the Wachowskis? Created the Matrix?

Both are transgender now.

How in the fuck does that happen? The odds for 1 Trans is already pretty goddamn slim, yet now there are two siblings that it afflicted?

That's how i know this is all bullshit.

This

There is no "therapy" or debate to get over this. Your just mentally fucking ill and should be put in front of a firing squad for being degenerate and preaching about it.

I don't have a problem with the mentally ill. What I do have a problem with is the government and mega corporations shoving it down our throats while trying to pass it off as 'normal'. Also the stupid parents that decide that their three year old boy is a girl because he wanted a Barbie is sick and makes me fume with rage.

And I rage even more when I realized that they're only doing this shit to sow division over yet another trivial issue so they can keep us distracted and divided while simultaneously dragging down society. Expect transgender BS to take up the news cycle for the next 2 weeks while Obongo signs an executive order on guns.

Maybe because of the pressures they feel by their peers?
endtransdiscrimination.org/report.html
Study has shown that transgender people are subject to poverty, discrimination, and harassment far more than their peers.

kill yourself faggot

>Science has proven that conversion therapy does not work,
You mean:
PC has strangled science to the point where they will ignore any evidence of successful conversion therapy and stifle any further research into it.

>Science has proven
Sauce?

Doesn't compute.

There is no such thing as transgender. You are born a male or female, every cell in your body is male or female, and if you think differently, you are screwed up in the head. It's like me saying I'm jesus christ. I'm not the lord and savior, and you're not a whatever you call it.

Also, you can't prove that other genders exists. I can prove that every cell in your body, down to the last chromosome, is either male or female. Get used to it.

...

I don't have problems with transexuals gays or etc.

The problem is the propaganda they are trying to get inside my throat.

>Skience
>The Wachowskis

Dont make me laugh

So are autismos, faggots and niggers compared to normal folks.
They don't off themselves like it's a panacea.

>hit 200K dislikes
>JewTube disables comments

Transgender/multiple gender/ 31 genders... they aren't real! They don't work and this shit doesn't happen!

You want to know how we managed to survive through recorded history without 31 genders and why this is only now becoming a thing?

1.The population has become a literal idocracy where people can't think and will go with any dumb shit.

2. We have hordes of of leftists and society wreckers and a culture TELLING people its ok to pick a fake gender and act like a autist.

Because its pushing a narrative that people arent allowed to disagree with for they will be socially ostracised and persecuted for doing so.

We're taking back the right to have opinions different from someone elses.

So guess what, we dont agree with you, or approve of this horse shit.

You cant convince us to see it your way. You just need to booy your big boy pants on, and learn to fucking accept the fact peoplecan have different opinions.

Goddamn liberals are fucking up our society so badly.

Normalizing a psychological illness is not a good thing.

They just need Jesus, mane.

>According to the DSM-V, as many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.

By thinking all this identity shit is "OK" and encouraging the behavior you are doing irreparable harm to impressional children who are just doing it to feel special in a world of non-special people.

In other words, it's child abuse, and you are the abusers

Shouldn't you fix the mental illness and not do whatever the person wants?

>I have schizophrenia and I think I am the reincarnation of Hitler now address me as Fuhrer and let me beat up jews. What no I don't need any medicine you racist.

>I am a 30 year old pregnant women but I believe I'm a man let me use your bathrooms with your little boy. What no I don't need any medicine or help, RACIST

Therapy is the only answer.

I actually don't care what people do to themselves, trannies chopping their dicks off is no more gross to me than people with horrible piercings or spacers in their ears, but when they attempt to make it my business and force this shit on me, shoving it down my throat and then calling me a subhuman that deserves to be hanged when I simply state my indifference, then it becomes unacceptable to me.
They're trying to force these issues into a public space where they don't have any right to be.
They have the right to do whatever they want to their own body, it's not my business, but in revenge I have a right to say I don't like it, I have a right to say I don't want to associate with people who are like that, and at no point that make me a Nazi or a homophobe or a racist(?) or a subhuman.

First of all, I think the pronouns are a different argument than trans tolerance. That is, perhaps it should be correct that people refer to others by a preferred pronoun, I don't know, but you can't force them to. Not only is that patronizing, it actually irritates those you're trying to convert, and makes them dislike the whole pronoun game. As such, its really just a way for kids to seek attention.

As for transgender issues themselves, well, I'm not a liberal or anything but Sup Forums tends to do the same shit as the SJWs. They go in with pre-formed opinions and try to work out justifications in the end.

I do think Transgenders exist, I think that you can identify as a man or a woman or a whale or what have you - but don't expect to be treated differently than how you look on the outside - if you want to be treated as a woman, make sure you look the part. It's not their jobs to telepathically know every lgbt person's personal preferences - that's just narcissism.

say your gay for example
I dont care if you like the cock
take the cock
enjoy it
but if your sexuality is the 1st thing out your mouth your a annoying cunt
>im a transgendered polymorphine power ranger genger fluid coolant pump with irritable bowel
just like your trying to get one up one the next person on who can be the most special little snowflake
in a sea of retards on social media your just scared you wont stand out

>genetic entropy has been proven
>we're all going downhill at a phenomenal rate
>lets just embrace the mutations and pass it off as normal and acceptable

That isn't how you approach disease and the accumulation of it. You try to treat and mitigate it.

>What's the problem with calling someone by their preferred pronouns?

Because I will not let others decide what is, or is not, biological fact simply based on their feelings.

The reason why so many people have a problem with this is because it is being pushed daily, forcing you to have an opinion on the tranny "issue". Before, I couldn't give a shit less if some lunatic thought he/she was the other sex and had the money to attempt to convince themselves their fantasy was truth, but when you see the media and lefty propaganda push this over and over and over again you are making just as many enemies as you are making allies. The pendulum has been pushed just about as far as it is going to go and when it swings back I dont think these fags can handle the truth.

OP is full of shit, lying like liberals always do in order to pretend reality suits their narrative when the opposite is true.

>What's the problem with calling someone by their preferred pronouns?
In the end it comes all down to economics. Transgenderism is a huge, or maybe just very lucrative, market. And surgeons really like to earn some bucks with super heavy surgery. And then the meds! That's probably even the nicer business.

>meds, meds, meds

Is it ethical to mutilate those people? I'd argue no, but who gives a fuck.

To put it as blunt as a fucking butter knife, there are 2 genders....2!
There are a couple of sexual orientations which in my opinion are all degenerate but still, 2 fucking genders. End of.

how can i get a trap skeleton gf like this

I can care less if a person wants to be trans-gendered or not. These videos or rather the propaganda behind wants to make victims and special snowflakes out of these attention whores.

Most of all, this propaganda aims to force people not to question, doubt or even call out these trans-people when they fuck up or even become worse than the bigotry they fight against.

Jews will bring up Holocaust when you question their methods when dealing with Palestinians. LGBTQ will bring up bigotry. It's all to control the debate and make you drop the argument or stand down when they do (and they will do) fucked up things to you and to each other.

>I won't give you any respect for being a victim or being a special trans snowflake. I will truly judge you on the content of your character, if that exists.

I'm don't care what adults and teens do to their bodies but I'm concerned about young children who transition early and get put on hormone blockers that sterilizes them. I know it's because this allows them to pass as the opposite gender better as adults to be but this seems like a form of eugenics to me.

>Guy sais his hand is trying to eat his face and begs you to chop his hand off to save his life
>He must be crazy
>Guy sais he is a woman and begs you to chop off his penis to save his mental wellbeing
>???

Believing that you are not the gender you were born as is a belief. There is no proof that shows that you actually weren't supposed to be a male or female. It is a belief, a philosophy much like religion. It is a problem because no one should have beliefs forced on them. Especially when these beliefs are formed due to mental disorders.

>Reassignment surgery has been proven to be the best method for remedying the issue.

You are stupid if you believe this bullshit. Liberals are not fucking intelligent no matter what bullshit studies they do or how much of academia they control. It is all biased, manipulated, and full of shit! The filthy kike who invented it should not be taken seriously and should be disregarded because he abused children and was a sexual predator. Again libshits aren't intelligent, they just like to think they are because they can't do shit in real life with their echo chamber studies proving they are smarter than any one on the face of the planet. I don't care what the flying fuck they say about IQ or LGBT shit. I, and most people here, are fucking smarter than they are so fuck you! Enjoy working on the liberal plantation you stupid nigger!

There's an actual medication, watch this vid
It can lead to suicide, depression, etc.

youtube.com/watch?v=aDAU3SPYFsA

Pray harder. It's better than Hell.

Debunked already:
problematicpeople.com/breaking-down-point-5-of-gender-ideology-harms-children/

What about giving a "man" who feels like a woman male hormones instead of female ones

The trans movement has become a form of child abuse. There are plenty of effeminate young boys who are being told they are actually women by authority figures and then subject to genital multination and hormonal therapy.

A male child who is:
a sissy =/= a woman
likes playing with dolls =/= a woman
dresses in female clothing =/= a woman
a fairy =/= a woman

Just because a kid is a fag or is going to grow up with a fetish doesn't mean he is female. It usually just means he's a fag or is going to be a perv.

This identity meme is just another way to create superfluous markets anyways, similar to all those (pol.) movements (selling tshirts and crap), diamonds/the engagement ring (of genious!), roses, valentines day, mother day, father day, halloween (at least over here in Europe - where it doesnt fucking belong), ...

>BUY BUY BUY

>What's the problem with calling someone by their preferred pronouns?

Genesis 5:2 says very clearly that there are two genders. When you force a person of Christian faith to use made-up pronouns, you're asking them to deny their faith in Christ. But if they don't use them, they risk losing their job and being ostracized from "progressive" society.

That is objectively hateful. That is worth fighting against.

>problematicpeople

I ain't clicking that shit nigga. I trust the American Academy of Pediatrics over these tumbristas

Sup Forums: 1
jewtube: 0

>number of times hand chopped off for that reason....0
>number of trans surgeries performed....>0

Logical fallacy you fucknugget.

>Is being anorexic degenerate
yes

Give them testosterone if they are a man and oestrogen if they are a woman, instead of doing the opposite and mutilating their genitals.

And if you must do it, DO NOT force it on children or make it into a social issue that single mums will force on their children. These mentally-ill fucks would have you believe it's all about acceptance, but A. I don't fucking care to see your mutilated genitals in my face, and B. it's being forced onto children with hormone blockers, even though the doctors that do this shit admit it's just a phrase for most kids that act like the opposite sex.

You know I don't even feel angry at the trannies themselves, they're mentally ill and hurting. I feel angry at the leftist fucks who abuse it.

Might as well go to the nearest graveyard and fuck a corpse.

I don't see any problem OP

>The trans movement has become a form of child abuse.
It's also abuse/mutilation while grownups only are involved (hypo. oath).

In a bunch of years this whole thing will be abolished just like the mainstream eugenetic programs/forced sterilizaztion of the past.

it spreads to the children

By his logic, we should be accepting and promoting anorexia as totally normal. Who cares if it's incredibly unhealthy and lead to either death from malnutrition or suicide? BODY POSITIVE :^)

My problem with it is that it basically makes male and female mean nothing. There is no mental state that makes one male. It's based on your chromosomal makeup. There are twink men and butch women, yet they're just a mental state away from being another gender? It makes no sense. I just don't understand why they can't just live and dress the way they like while accepting that they are their genetic gender. You can legally change your name from Mark to Cindy if you like, but you can't alter your genetics.

>Reassignment surgery has been proven to be the best method for remedying the issue.
I agree with this wholeheartedly, merely for two simple facts:

It shows that they're not bullshitting to get attention, and suicide rates are extraordinarily high in post-op trannies and other surgery-related, permanently disfiguring gender/identity procedures.

They are ugly and that justifies telling them to kill themselves, while at the same time claiming they are mentally ill because most of them want to kill themselves.

Do we now have such a thing as an "identity day" to fucking celebrate?

top kek.

To paraphrase Molyjeux: crazy people need to impose their craziness on the world to validate their craziness.

Now, do we want to support/celebrate shitty parenting and lax moral/societal values
nhs.uk/Livewell/Transhealth/Pages/Transparentalworries.aspx
bbc.co.uk/news/health-36275877
standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/where-girl-meets-boy-why-are-child-referrals-to-londons-gender-identity-clinic-rising-so-sharply-a3245416.html
telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/19/choose-your-gender-aged-four/
independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/referrals-to-englands-only-childrens-gender-identity-clinic-have-doubled-every-year-since-2009-a6979711.html
Or should we rather prefer the attitudes which led to the advancement of Western civilization to the point of landing men on the moon?

If one makes their private life public, one invites judgement.

I'm saying that they're both on the same level, you dingus. The suicide rates of post op trannies imply that they're still mentally ill after being mangled by a surgeon and that humoring their twisted beliefs doesn't help, just as chopping off a crazy person's hand wouldn't make him less crazy.

get that tumblr shit out of here lmao

post a real source you fucking fairy

>After the whole explosion on Youtube with the identity video
>implying you guys trolling for a few hours was even noteworthy

You faggots need to get off Sup Forums

>problematicpeople.com
>somehow a shitty bullet-point article made by a 20-something journalist on a blog-like site trumps sourced reasearch from actual psychologists and doctors
Wew lad.

Homosexuality is something very common in nature. Transexuality, however, is nonexistant. The argument that transexuals are normal is invalid.

did you really link a page from that domain?

Written by someone who is on medicaid and when doctors dont want any more medicaid patients she crys DISCRIMINATION!

Get the fuck off this board, i'll side with a written medical text thank you

>I didn't read the post, so I'm going to mock the poster.

Having a mutilated penis and breast implants does not make you a woman.

Taking hormones and dressing like a man does not make you a man.

Why did ancient Greece fail, what did they approve as legal and part of society - do you remember?

All I hear is homosexuals and sexual deviants damaging society.

What good do they do? They always want attention - they seek it - it's very obvious that they need attention - it's inevitable kids won't end up watching their attention seeking butt-sex videos.

This is something I found out about yesterday.. and it's just the beginning.
shoebat.com/2015/11/04/homosexuals-in-the-military-are-raping-and-molesting-tens-of-thousands-of-american-soldiers-in-just-one-year-the-homosexuals-have-raped-57750-american-soldiers-if-you-support-the-troops-then-fight/

kek

>To paraphrase Molyjeux: crazy people need to impose their craziness on the world to validate their craziness.

Corollary: nobody minds as long as you can make a good business out of it.

Look at it like this OP.
These faggots, or whatever they call themselves, what they're doing is basing their identities and revolving their entire lives around their FETISHES. Being gay is not even a mental disorder (at least in most cases), it's not even that. Really it's only an overglorified fetish for dicks, just as there's fetishes for feet. I mean, just look at the fucking faggots. Most of them look and act and talk all feminine, except they have dicks. Deep down, they still have the natural draw to feminine characteristics, hence why they act all feminine and shit. It's not even a fucking mental disorder, all it is is one overglorified dick fetish that these faggots make sure is the first thing you know about them. The transgender and LGBTAAHEBTSHD+ bullshit was enabled by society's acceptance of the gay shit. Beastiality just got legalized in Canada FFS. The more you enable these degenerates to indentify according to what gets their dick hard, the more fucked up society will become. Just watch.

Most trans people are just ugly people who don't like being ugly and think changing genders will fix things. Psychiatry is a joke in general and using their science as a defense is a weak argument.

>Is being anorexic degenerate
Not eating to the point of getting sick for attention and sex is pretty fucking degenerate.

>google "transgender identical twins"
>several pairs where one is and the other isn't
This is proof positive that transgenderism is not genetic

Also
>The existence of the tucute truscum dichotomy
>not blatant evidence of transtrenders

The American Pediatric Society/Association has repeatedly asked Obama to stop pushing this ideology on children because it's a mental illness not a normal biological phenomenon

This is a great point. I would have no problem with Islam if not for dawa ("moderates" taking over governments, incrementally). The terrorism would be explicable as madness, as it appears to be in the official story. Similarly my problem with trannies is not their existence but their totalitarian demand for overt love.

>using their science
Please elaborate

This was datamining by Youtube to train their bots to be able to detect "Hate speech", so that their spam filter can shadowban IPs that produce "hate speech".

Try Vimeo instead.

You are embarrassing your fellow burgers

is there any proof of this conspiracy theory? how could YouTube predict the video would be the target of a Sup Forums raid?

>showing pride and confidence, despite their situation

No, they're prideful *because* of their situation. You might admire an alcoholic taking steps to overcome their drinking problem, but you wouldn't accept them "identifying" with their alcoholism in a way that means "celebrating" or "embracing" it as "who they are" and binge drinking as the most effective way of treating the desire to drink alcohol to excess.

Psychiatry has never solved a single illness. The medicine they use to treat often causes more harm than good and only treats the symptoms.