Die hard

>Die hard
>speed
>predator
>terminator 2
>cammando
>the raid
>john wick

What action films can even be added this list, let alone COMPETE ?!?

is the action genre dead ?

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Total Recall you shitfuck

Action genre is trash anyway

Road Warrior

>cammando

I don't know this film.

Aliens, Diehard with a vengeance, Mad Max 2 and Fury Road

Hardcore Henry

Basically schwarzy gunning down people to save his young daughter

Action genre died after 9/11

no more terrorists
no more president's life in danger
no more hijacking
no more buildings getting blown up
no more special fx

it all became hacking

You mean commando?

The rock and con-air

Capeshit replaced the action genre.

Gone are the days of the lone man doing the impossible with interesting set pieces and a charismatic lead

Now we just have CGI and whatever relevant actor you can slap onto the role.

bourne identity

Unlikable main character and shaky cam bullshit. Try again.

Soldier
Red Dawn
Hacksaw Ridge
Starship Troopers
Robocop
Big Trouble in Little China

Yeh my bad, i thought i missed point break too

nope, die hard 3 is borderline

Nope

NOPE

>no Demolition Man
Are you even trying

Remember when they actually blew up stuff and there was no greenscreen? Speed remembers

Oh True Lies.

Executive Decision and Con Air >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speed

Remove Terminator 2
Add road warrior or fury road. Your choice

PS t2 is Cameron's worst film

rip edition

Forgot to mention Aliens as the replacement for T2
T1 isn't an action movie and neither is true lies or the abyss

@78263554

You ain't getting a (You), faggot

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>t2 is Cameron's worst film
Why do I keep coming to this board? Such shit tier bait.

>PS t2 is Cameron's worst film
you mean piranha

Other than T2 (swap it for original Terminator and my argument works perfectly), what these movies all have in common, which modern action movies don't, is that they're LEAN. Straightforward stories, a single clear plot line, and one protagonist. The emphasis is on building the tension and atmosphere so the action has impact. It's not trying to be jam packed with memeworthy moments, set up a billion sequels, or run well over two hours.

>nope
>nope
>NOPE
>satire, wrong genre
>yeh
>nostalgia

Yep, missed that100% NO

It's true
It's not even bad, just far from great. Especially on the action front
Doesn't count and you know it

Speed would be nice if it didn't have subhuman Chink in the main role. To this day I can't bother to re-watch Point Break because of how awful he's in there.

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>T1 is a better action movie than T2

In what way nostalgia goggle faggot idiot ?

Avatar is up there with Capeshit when it comes to quality, clearly his worst movie.

T1 has the better villain, T2 has the better everything else. Cinematography, editing, special effects, production in general, T1 looks like home video in comparison.

why isn't fury road up there?

>giant chase involving stupid women
>one emotional sce-
>ah fuck it race back with stupid women

Avatar is revolutionary in the way it was shot though. Visually nothing has touched it since it's release.

I still agree it's worse than most of his great classics, but T2 is not better than any other Cameron film in my opinion. Even Titanic, which I'd say is second best behind Terminator

You need The Rock, Con Air, and Face/Off or this list is fucking worthless.

Looks like you're the one fucked up then.

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>Avashit more revolutionary than T2
Have a (You)

>Not a single Jackie Chan film

You're asking for twuble

Did you only see T1 on VHS you turbo pleb? It has far better composition and visual flair. Much better aesthetic too, including the future scenes. Holy shit.

T.2 had the nuke scene and the T1000. Neat but far less artful than nearly every other aspect which T1 excelled at

this thread: ass

>Red Dawn
People actually like that garbage other than memes?

>Soldier
Not even warranting a proper reply desu.

What did T2 revolutionize that Aliens, T1, and Die Hard didn't already do first and do better?

Literally nothing

> just far from great. Especially on the action front

Jesus christ, this board is SHIT

T2 is absolute KINO, its non stop start to finish, PERFECT, top tier action, top tier one liners, top tier effects, PERFECT casting, story is perfect, you are a GIANT pleb if you think T2 isnt one if the greats.

That faggot poster is fucked in the head he's going to tell you wrong genre

>Did you only see T1 on VHS?
Yeah like everyone else faggot.

>much better aesthetic
Other than the first 5 minutes and the last 30 seconds of T1, you're painfully wrong.

This is a board that praises Armond

Why are you surprise there's a little contrarian faggot running around?

>caring about story in movies
Are people on Sup Forums really this retarded? Read a book if you want a story, a movie is all about pacing, acting and visuals.

Kill yourself
Not one action scene in T2 stands out. Perfect casting and story perhaps, but what I'm really trying to point out is how much better the rest of Cameron's filmography is. True Lies, The Abyss, Aliens, T1, all fare better than T2 in every way imaginable to me

And this is still with the understanding that T2 is very, very good. I just found its action to be wanting in many ways.

Not an argument retard.

>Pacing, acting, visuals
All things which T1 beats T2 in, and to a pulp

What. None of these are true even slightly.

I'm not arguing with you. I'm telling you to kill yourself.

>OP says action is dead
>everyone names old films

Well done Sup Forums

>T1 better visuals
Top lel. I bet you also jerk off to Carpenter's B movie shit.

the best part of red dawn was the rifftrax

I totally agree with Robocop though, classic brutally violent action movie with great social commentary. I'd rank it alongside Die Hard

I'm in the extreme minority that considers Eraser to be an excellent action flick.

You're not even white, why should I listen to you

Are you fucking kidding me?
>Club scene
>Nighttime car chase
>Future scene with helicopter
>Human outpost getting rekt by T-800
>Terminator correcting his eye in the mirror
>Police station slaughter
>perfect sex scenes
>Terminator walking away from the fire and is finally just machine
>"You're terminated fucker"
Every one of these moments has iconic and immaculate shots. There's maybe 3 moments in T2 which come ever close to comparing

Literally dropped it when I realized Silvestri just lazily used resampled Predator 2 tracks for the music. The ending also reminded me of Ricochet and not in a good way.

>t one action scene in T2 stands out

WOW, Sup Forums is pure SHIT
Action scenes that stand out in aT2
>diner biker scene (is action, fights sever people)
>motor bike chase vs truck
>psycho jail break scene
>"come with me if you want to live"
>FUCKING MINI GUN SCENE
>ASTA LAVISTA BABY

You are a pleb

>T1
>better visuals
Get some new glasses Pops. It looks like cheap dogshit. I mean don't get me wrong. It's a great film but no one has ever praised it's cinematography before.

This

This is a top 10 action movie and only a faggot disagrees.

>inb4 muh ripoff
It topped every movie it "ripped off" by a considerable margin.

There are 1000 chink actions that are better than every film on that list (besides the ONE chink flick)

And you posted 2 Keanu films but ignored the Matrix, which is the best American action movie ever made, which makes me believe that you're just a moron.

"No"

Where the fuck are the Lethal Weapon movies?

Kek wow

Name one

Fuck off.

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>Diner scene
Worse than the original T1 scene where he spooks the punk's in every way
>Motor bike vs truck
Really shitty editing
>Psycho jail break scene
You have that one
>Mini gin scene
Lame. No sense of momentum or energy at all. Just things blowing up
>Those quotes
Better quotes in T1 desu
You're terminated fucker >>>> ASTA la reddit baby

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Police Story
Hard-Boiled
Lethal Weapon
Crank 1&2

>Never been praised for its cinematography before
Kill yourself

Good choice.

>Hard-boiled
About fucking time someone said it

Personally I like T1 more because I'm an 80s nostalgia faggot but T2 is objectively better.

This thread is full of retards.

T1 uses its visuals for claustrophobia. Watch it again. T2 is basically a shoot em up sci-fi action with a kid tacked in.

Untrue fag

>Future War
>Biker Fight
>Hallway Flowers (Get Down!)
>The entire L.A river chase sequence
>"He'll live"
>Psychiatric hospital breakout, rescue, and escape sequences
>Terminator Sarah
>SWAT busting into Cyberdyne, Dyson holding out
>T-800 walking through a hail of gun fire and having his skin peel off
>T-1000 stealing a Chopper
>SWAT vs. Chopper
>Pick Up vs. Truck
>T-1000 jumping onto said the truck
>"Hasta La Vista, Baby"
>T-800 vs. T-1000
>T-1000 vs. Sarah

Don't bother responding though. I'm more than positive you're going to say they're all shit or some stupid reason.

I love both movies and I can't put one over the other, but I'm sick of you fuckers constantly going out of your way to shit on T2.

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T2 uses its visuals for thrills. Watch it again. T1 is basically a slasher flick with a robot.

At this point, we might as well throw in Arnie. He's basically the king of action.

>Total Recall
>Predator
>Terminator 1 + 2
>Commando
>Conan

It's hard to argue that these films aren't worth watching.

>future scenes
Compare this: youtube.com/watch?v=nL4ckHJ4dZA

To this: youtube.com/watch?v=_Mg7qKstnPk

and this: youtube.com/watch?v=pX9hL93HPMI

T1 looks so fucking cheap.

Not one of those is visually interesting though on a cinematic level. All all of it is by the numbers action editing without momentum or kinetic energy being thought of at all

Look at this webm
Of true lies. This is one of dozens of genius moments in that film communicated entirely through the visuals. Terminator has these moments too

T2 really only has the nuke scene, the guy holding out with the explosives, and the thumbs up

Almost all of the major action sequences are boring compared to Cameron's best action work in Aliens and T1.

I'm not even saying that the movie is bad. Just visually, and when paying attention to the craft of the action, it's lamer than everything else he's done

Drunken Master 2
Police Story
Hero
Ong Bak
The Protector
Ip Man
The Raid 2
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Tai Chi Master

>no one has added any films from the last 10 years yet bar OPs list

>inb4 the raid 2

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T2 really only has the nuke scene, the guy holding out with the explosives, and the thumbs up

You've got to be fucking with me

I'll acknowledge your digits, but I can't entertain your stupidity. Fuck off.

Other than Universal Soldier 3, which was DTV, I honestly can't think of one. Action films, at least theatrically, are dead.

Didn't read the thread but

Point break
Road house
First or third punisher
Eraser
Broken arrow
The big hit
Starship troopers
Warriors
Blade
Lethal weapons
No Escape
Breakdown
Cliffhanger
Ricochet

not the other guy but I remember the T1 scenes better than most of these, some of them I can't even remember at all

>T2 has a higher budget
That doesn't compromise the artistic merit of the original you idiot. Nor does it make it look bad, at all

And yes, you posted the best scene in T2 visually and it's all in the first 5 minutes. Congratulations. To give you credit and to backtrack on my own part, I remembered that sequence as being in Terminator 1. Fuck, it's been a. Few years since I watched either. I'm going to have to watch both tonight, back to back to get this shit 100% straight. So thanks for that I guess

I was gonna say... Sup Forums is full of plebs who don't know hard boiled baka

>T1 is basically a slasher flick with a robot.
This. I'm pretty sure that's what it was originally meant to be in the first place, but they tacked on Kyle Reese for good measure.

My problem with T2 though is that there's no real fear inducing shit in the film, because there's a big bad robot Arnold protecting the family from a scrawny pedophile looking cop. In T1 there's a frail sickly guy and a high school girl running away from a bodybuilder killing machine so it's much better.

T2 also has
>shotgun swing reload barrel poiting at camera
>skin removal from arm scrne
>hasta la vista, baby. shot (still shown ALL the time on film channel promos)
T1 was the idea, T2 was the evolution of the idea.

Explain to me how that has even a fraction of the visual fidelity as this
youtu.be/2NDBVi3QdwU

That gif has a boring color palette and just jumps from stepping on flowers to his face. Big deal

KEK at your list

Lethal weapon is on the edge but nope