What do prog/libs mean by "common sense" gun control?

what do prog/libs mean by "common sense" gun control?

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>If I call my opinions common sense, anyone that disagrees looks stupid

They are sugar-coating the gun ban. They want guns to be "Banned or heavily regulated" like in Mexico, but they make it sound so "reasonable" with all that 'common sense' talk.

The republicans really need to call them out, and send them to their gun-control paradise-- MEXICO. (guns are already banned or heavily regulated in mexico)

No magazines over 15 rounds anything more than that and your just trying to kill people

This. They are employing salami tactics against the 2nd ammendment. Once they get rid of guns, they can proceed to turn the USA into a neoliberal, authoritarian shithole like Europe, where saying a bad word can land you in jail.

Yeah OK Eric Holder.

>Sells guns to the Mexican drug cartels
>Wants to take guns from the American people
>Fails, receives nothing but scorn and derision in defeat

>paid shill detected

You forgot to mention "assault weapon" ban

What about two 10rd mags taped together?

>trying to kill people
Gee, I wonder what the purpose of the 2nd amendment is.

Fudds are just as bad as nu-male liberal fags.

Why not 7.26 rounds? Or maybe 5.14 rounds? Why the specific number 15?

>No magazines over 15 rounds anything more than that and your just trying to kill people

Isn't that kind of the point of the gun though?

they mean the gun control they already have, which doesn't work, plus a little more, which won't improve the situation

what they're asking for right now will probably trigger a civil war

> I just wanna violate due process to ensure terrorist suspects don't get guns!
>What's that? Someone not on the terror watchlist committed a mass shooting? Enough pussyfooting, we need common sense gun control! More permits and wait periods! More background checks for all sales!
>Huh? Someone went through the hoops and still shot up a school? No more weapons of war on our streets! It's just common sense!
>Huh? Someone used a ban compliant rifle and hand gun? That does it! It's only common sense that nobody be allowed these rifles or hand guns!

It's a slow widdling down of our rights.

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It's the gun equivalent of "IT'S 2016 I MEAN COME ON!!!"

My 30 round mags haven't killed people, maybe they're defective?

fpbp

No one is trying to take away your car. But we do make it hard to purchase, trade, or buy one or operate one without a license. Also, you need to buy insurance and register is so we know who has it at all times.

Get over yourself. You're just a paranoid nutcase.

It means take away everybody's guns.

They say "common sense" so it seems popular. Like television, they present things in a way to make them look normal and popular even when the opposite is true.

In a nutshell these. I always start my argument from a point of already having "common sense" gun laws and reminding people that those who use guns outside of of the law probably won't give a fuck about new laws they will happily disobey, which only disadvantages people who follow the law. Law abiding people.are therefore the only ones affected, which means that the advocates of these laws understand this and ultimately want to cut access to even those people who will use guns responsibly.

This. Common sense is anything but common. These are simply weasel words designed to build false consensus.

rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-its-time-to-repeal-the-second-amendment-right-bear-arms-20160613

Thanks to our weasel President, even the word "consensus" is a weasel word

>common sense gun laws
Works great! Oh, wait, no.

I do not have a constitutional right to a car. Get over yourself you pseudo intellectual idiot.

>You're just a paranoid nutcase.
This vid of your favorite gun banning harpy says otherwise you lying piece of shit.
youtube.com/watch?v=1_LaBJvI0BI

The same thing when they say "fair share" Regarding taxes
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It isn't a slippery slope it is just them gnawing off more bits of our rights that they want to see utterly eliminated.

Not giving dangerous people guns. Duh!

Cars are also not protected under the Constitution

There is nothing inherently wrong with killing people. The context in which you kill them is what matters.

>My 30 round mags haven't killed people, maybe they're defective?

They will if you feed them after midnight

Phillipines banned guns. Mexico banned guns.
Ban guns = third world shit hole.

EU banned guns. Britain banned guns.
Still get shot and bombed.
Also you go to jail for hurting peoples feelings.
Hello Brussels and Paris.

Man gun control sure works.

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Common sense laws could mean literally anything. Depends on the person.

To me here's what I would propose as ''common sense''.
>people in jail can't buy guns
>people under 18 can't buy guns
>people suspected of having ties to terrorist organizations can't buy guns
>can't buy a gun while drunk or high
>can't buy a gun with a gun related or violent criminal record

That's pretty much it.
The only problem I have is when people refuse to have any restrictions of guns. As if me saying ''8 year olds can't buy guns'' turns into GIB ME UR GUNS.

The Constitution sure frustrates you doesn't it, faggot? Lmao...

We are pretty much there already, but at least we are not disarmed like some helpless cuck Brit or Mexican.

The Republicans don't seem to be fighting very hard, they need to constantly mock the gun-grabbers as hypocrites (who arm ISIS and drug cartels, while crying crocodile tears over our basic simple guns) and they need to constantly hammer home the Mexico meme.

>You want gun-control you fucking Libtard nigger? Go to Mexico, gun control paradise!

I'm trying something similar but more understated. I look at the TV at work and say in disgust " The whole country is going to hell in hand basket. Riots every few months now terrorist attacks. And now these assholes want to ban guns." Seems to be working on the blue collar types.

>>people suspected of having ties to terrorist organizations can't buy guns
dumb as fuck
either you go to court and get found guilty, or nothing.
none of this "some guy doesn't like you and put you on a list, no more rights for you" bullshit

They want to ban all guns.

Anything else they say is just a meme to try and trick you into negotiating with them before you realize your mistake.

Thats not even an argument anymore.
Banning guns dosnt stop shootings, it reduces them.

>No one is trying to take away your car. But we do make it hard to purchase, trade, or buy one or operate one without a license. Also, you need to buy insurance and register is so we know who has it at all times.
Actually you don't have to do any of that unless you're going to drive on public roads.
I can go into a car dealership(or any random Joe willing to sell me a car) and buy any car cash money with no government knowledge other than the sales tax put it on a trailer and take it home. You can also import just about any car in existence for private use as well.

You cant do the same with guns

You can only buy newly manufactured semiautomatic or less firearms from a licenced dealer filling out a 4473 and receiving a background check. In most states you can privately transfer firearms with no background checks but that is heavily being pushed to be illegal. You cannot own any firearms capable of shooting more than one round per trigger pull unless they're made before 1986 and you fill out an ARF form pay a 200$ tax be fingerprinted speak to you local CLEO and go through a 6-12 month waiting period for the ATF to process(this also applies to suppressors rifles with a barrel under 16" and shotguns with a barrel under 18" . Individuals cannot own any firearms capable of firing more than one shot per trigger pull made after 1986 and these only exist in civilian hands in the form of class III dealers/businesses as "post dealer samples" who can make and possess them for the purpose of military or law enforcement sale/demonstration.
Importing firearms has an incredibly long and arbitrary check list.
For handguns they have to meet stringent requirements (that effectively ban all cheap small handguns which is very discriminatory against the poor btw) for importation and rifles have to meet another set of stringent requirements to be imported. Which involves only being able to take 10rnd mags or less no pistol grip and pinned or no threaded barrels. Cont

Mate, you're just 'on the wrong side of history'.

15rd mags are too shallow for shooting hogs out of a helicopter.

I am obviously not talking about some stupid lists that mean nothing.
Think of the fag who killed 49 fags. They knew he had ties to ISIS. He wasn't just some ''suspect''. They knew he was up to no good, and they didn't do anything about it.

This guy should have been in jail.

cars will be banned by 2035

Common sense gun control means only criminals and terrorists get access to weapons.

Everyone can go fuck themselves. After they get shot.

It's code for whatever they can get. If it's magazine limits, then it's all the ones that look scary, then it's all the ones that didn't look scary but now they do. Then it's the eirlooms, and then it's all about knifes.

>This guy should have been in jail.

For what? He hadn't committed a crime.

Unless you think he was guilty of thought crimes or wrong opinions, in which case you're just another SJW fighting to take away all of our rights with your minority report bullshit.

Nice ISIS apologism.

Muslims shouldn't even be in Western countries. Being Muslims is strike one. Having ties to ISIS is strike two, and you're out. No compromises.
We're at war with Muslims and you're here whining that arresting those poor dindu nuffin Muslims is just like being an SJW.

Grow the fuck up. We'e at war.

One can unmolest their imported rifles by complying with 922r laws which state that imported rifles have to have an arbitrary number of American made parts in order to have all those "scurry a-salt weabon" features and if you violate 922r it is mandatory 5-10 years in prison (as is all NFA relayed laws) despite the rifles being no different than any other "a salt weabon" manufactured in America.

This is just a small dip in the pool of the 60k+ gun laws in this nation so any claim thah guns are regulated the same as cars as an argument for more regulations on the private individual owning and using cars is one made of either pire fucking ignorance or deliberate deception to manipulate people into accepting even more regulations.

And considering antigun politicians say such ignorant shit like link related I honestly don't know which is which.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxtu228bYFw

Seriously if you demonstrate this level of incompetence on something you're trying to legislate you should be laughed out of office and shamed by society as a whole and better yet to submit to extensive drug testing to ensure you're not doped out of your fucking mind and if failed expelled from public office and banned from running again.

>live in NYC
>They actually want you to walk into a police station and pay 500 shekels, register your weapon so you're in a police database, and wait nearly a year
>Can actually be turned down during that waiting period, outright told you're not allowed to own a gun, with no due process, and no appeals or recourse.

Fuck liberals, I hate this god damn city.

>people suspected
Nice due process you got there bro.

How does Muslim cock taste?

>But we do make it hard to purchase, trade, or buy one or operate one without a license. Also, you need to buy insurance and register is so we know who has it at all times.

Yet all of this is false, you kike.

We're not at war with Islam. Islam is at war with us.

Quick reminder that gun control does nothing to actually stop crimes, and the politicians pushing for it know that.
They just want another way to control the peasants, and their lefty pets will eat up anything they say.

They're coming for more gun bans here in Australia right now (and they will never stop), and I'm not giving them anything.

this

we already have well beyond "common sense" laws for guns in this country

The worst part of the faggot liberals that say this shit is they're on the wrong side of history regarding the inalienable right to keep and bear arms.
From. philosophical to statistical data to the historical actions of governments against unarmed people being antigun is wrong at every level and extremely regressive.
Pic related

>war is sufficient reason to suspend the constitution
I want the thought police to leave

Then I must have imagined US and their allies bombing Libya, invading Iraq and trying to overthrow Assad.
They're at war with us. That's changes everything.

It tastes like an excuse for the Left to deny their political opponents the right to own guns and implement a tyrannical government that would invite more muslims into the country.

That only reinforces what I said. You don't have a constitutional right to your car, but they're still not taking it away.

Requiring background checks and a license is not a government plot to take your guns away.

And remember, the second amendment is for well regulated militias. Regulations are a part of it. Stop being stupid.

>if you don't let Muslims have guns they win
Nice one, Trudeau

They mean don't think about it too hard.

>Why does anyone need an AR-15 to defend themselves against a Tyrannical government. Only a crazy person would think that a Tyrannical government would ever exist in the US.
>Trump is LITERALLY Hitler.

Cognitive dissonance.

oh my god i love these threads, they really show the delusional paranoid day dreams of the average Sup Forums-ite

SLIPPERY SLOPE GUYS FIRST THEY BAN THE GUNS AND THEN THEY COME FOR US.

I wouldnt trust atleast 1/3 of you community college failures with a firearm.

>what do prog/libs mean by "common sense" gun control?

Same thing any con artist means when he says, "c'mon, you know it makes sense!"

I'm amazed at how much trust you have in the government.
Where you don't even care if they can indefinitely lock you up and torture you without probable cause, or that they want to stop you from being able to own a gun without even a shred of evidence against you... All because they put the word "terrorist" in front of it.

One week it's the chilluns, the next week it's the turrists. You fuckers are all the same.

>Having ties to ISIS is strike two,
The FBI found zero evidence for this, twice.
>We need to remove the legal protections on our rights that has made the west so extraordinarily successful in all of human history because we are a bunch of reactionary sheep.
No fuck you.
I'll carry my firearm and if some dumbass of any type tries to shoot up a group of people I'll do everything I can to put the sick fuck down.
The more people who do this the more effective it becomes leaving these horrible people helpless in doing such high-profile public attacks.

The solution is embracing our liberties not stripping them away which isn't only letting terrorist win it is letting the governments that want to destroy what western civilization stands for win as well.

guns for only the criminals and the police

>Over 100 million people murdered by their own governments in the last century
>Current governments introducing draconian laws one after another targeted specifically at taking away our freedom
>Politician after politician saying that they won't stop and the only thing holding them back is a fear of failure

"But this time we'll be fine, right guys?"

Nice strawmen right there.

In your retarded rotten shit brain ''terrorists should be treated like terrorists'' translates into ''GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT, LOCK ANYONE UP FOR NO REASON WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING FUCK YOU''

Get your head checked.

If muslims are on terrorist watch lists, then let them go overseas and don't let them back in.

But the government can literally put anyone on a terror watch list, for any reason, without evidence and the person might never know.

The US government would happily put you on a terror watch list for your comments in this thread.

Stopping muslims from owning guns won't stop terror attacks. They killed 3000+ people on 9/11 without any guns at all. The US needs better border controls and a ban on muslim immigration, but you're a fucking SJW idiot to think that banning guns for anyone on an arbitrary list that the govt of the day makes up would do anything to stop Systemic Islamic Terrorism.

Not an argument

Lmao I bet more than half of you faggots don't even own or know how to operate a firearm.

>GUN CONTROL THREAD #34976

STOP MAKING THESE
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>Current governments introducing draconian laws one after another targeted specifically at taking away our freedom

This is very true. They've enacted laws that ban homosexuality and enforce religious compliance in schools.

... wait, that's backwards. We're moving away from that. And the people for those draconian laws are also the people against common sense gun control.

So you don't believe in the legal system?
You think that if your feelings tell you someone's a terrorist then they are?

This is why we have the entire legal system and the concept of innocence until proven guilty.
Your feels are not evidence, and your blind ignorance is not a substitute for the judicial system.
If someone shouldn't have guns, get a fucking court order.

Not here to argue lmao. Mostly just here to clown on Sup Forums and post screencaps to my ironic meme page.

You guys are a fantastic resource.

Stop projecting.

The removal of due process is an actual serious essential threat to Western civilization than random terrorist attacks.

The number one non natural killer of man the last 100 years were innocent people slaughtered by their own governments which didn't recognize due process.

It is one of the single most important advancements in government made by the west and is the largest foundation of all of western civilization since the Magna Carta.
Suggesting the removal of such a foundation makes you a bigger enemy to Western civilization than Muslim terrorist by a very wide margin.

Especially when you consider that """our""" governments are deliberately letting these people roam freely with the hopes they do attacks like this so they can push such legislation with the help of scared stupid sheep like yourself.

Is this your first day learning about how the 'terror' watch list works?

Literally anyone can be put on it for any arbitrary reason - no evidence necessary, and then the Patriot Act allows the government to literally lock people up.

The 5th and 14th Amendments stop the US govt. from fucking with the 2nd using your retarded logic.

Maybe I don't speak nigger, but you seem to be misunderstanding something.

No one is talking about putting people on watchlists for no reason whatsoever with no evidence.
I am talking about people with proven ties to actual terrorist organizations. If a muslim man can have clear ties to ISIS then he should be treated as a terrorist.
I don't have any ties to ISIS, I am not a Muslims, so I shouldn't be treated as a terrorist.

I am sorry I can't speak niggerish.

Not projecting I own two firearms. Fact of the matter is that most of /pol is either white teenagers or young adults still living with their parents.

Background checks for every gun transfer and the no fly list also becomes a no gun list.

Unfortunateily, we know that won't prevent terrorists from getting guns and libs will demand more.

>There are literally only two possible viewpoints in the world
>Anything else doesn't exist!

And it sure is good that you trust those same governments to fairly and responsibly take away your only means of stopping them from doing whatever they want.

I mean after all, what was wrong with the voter literacy test? Common sense, right? Obviously the government would never enact a law designed specifically to stop blacks from voting (or owning guns), right?

Timestamp, faggot.

>Then I must have imagined US and their allies bombing Libya, invading Iraq and trying to overthrow Assad
You mean actions done against western interest to further strengthen Israeli regional power by destroying all the competition?

Isis or a group like it wouldn't exist if we weren't fighting religious wars for insane Zionist in Israel.

This isn't even up for debate released DIA reports openly state Isis was deliberately fostered by the west and leaked Hillary emails confirm her actions as Secretary of State were for Israeli interest.

It is a story rught out of 1984 and you're taking it hook line a sinker

That is not my problem.
Fix your shitty terror lists to make actual sense.
No one is denying that US government is fucked up and it all needs to be fixed. You can't fix one thing without fixing everything else.

I'm not getting out of bed to appease some Aussie faggot. If you don't believe me oh well.

Troll or idiot. Either way kill yourself.

You talking as if any of this is news to me. Are you retarded?
It's exactly why I brought it up, because I know about the Israeli involvement, I know who funded ISIS, I know about the endless wars in the middle east. I am not some ignorant faggot who believes the west isn't at war with the middle east.

>I know the government is untrustworthy
>That's why we should place infinite amounts of trust in them

Relevant

>If you allow the government to strip anyone they dont like of their rights with zero due process zero accountability and Zero means of recourse without their knowledge you let the Muslims win
Why in the world do you think these secret list aren't going to he ised against the real threat to governments?
Well armed law abiding people that don't want the government to turn into a despotic shitstain are listed as the nukber one terrorist threat in all western nations not "mooossslim turrurist".
Muslims are a tool to strip your rights away you short sighted cowardly sheep

Nice strawman.
If you can't ''win'' an argument without strawmen you don't have an argument.

What do you expect from an ideology based entirely off cognitive dissonance?

Who said anything about no evidence and zero due process?
Epic strawmen. Keep them coming.

>SLIPPERY SLOPE GUYS
It isn't a slippery slope when there is precedent Moron

What are you on about, how is that a strawman?

Bypassing the legal system and giving faceless bureaucrats the ability to choose who can and can't own guns is exactly what you're arguing for.
You want people to be able to be put on a secret list without any evidence whatsoever that permanently stops them from being able to own guns.

If you don't want that, then tell us specifically what you do want.

>strawman that I'm using a black and white fallacy

You won't bait me, ruseman. I was addressing the claim of draconian laws being acted by the gun control side. It is the anti-gun control side that is enacting the laws. That's not excluding other options from existing, I'm calling out the poster on their bullshit.

Those trying to enact common sense gun laws are trying up hold other freedoms, not take them away.