The Alt-right as a recognised collection of political ideals didn't exist until the last five years and largely emerged as a result of socially alienated and incompetent teenagers taking Sup Forums's banter and shitposting seriously and adopting a satire routine as an earnest ideology, proceeding to spread this Wish-washy Idealistic Neo-traditionalist rhetoric all over the internet, smearing shit on forums around the world.
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Did Ben Garrison draw this?
While some of the alt-right is composed of edgy highschoolers, it's #notallaltrighters.
>implying it's banter and shitposting
Trump will lose and Britain will remain
alt-right is a shit term
It's just not "neo-con" shit; as if that was ever "right" in the first place
it's true
>we are le ebin nazis
>spokesmen are all gay jews
You're all liberals anyways
It's true.
if you support "Free speech on the Internet" rather than oppose the Internet as a whole and realize that its very existence is liberalizing and anti-traditional, you are NOT a real conservative.
Sorry but "muh Sup Forums freedumbs" is just a radical leftist view, and you're not even aware of it. A real traditionalist would find the very idea of Sup Forums and anonymous forums disgusting. Egalitarianism at its worst.
I have nudes of an alt-righter famous from Twitter :^]
>MUH conservatism
Xenophobic nationalists fueled by violent rhetoric?
It's existed for a hell of a lot longer than five years.
And if they didn't spew the same shit as you you'd be calling for them to die
Then how would you describe it
Alt right stuff isn't really all that different from conservatism and fascism, which are cut from the same cloth. Much of it is restated metaphysics and admiration for Heidegger, Guenon, and Evola in particular, a call for empire (versus nationhood) and as a result of the last point, monarchies and an emperor uniting the monarchies. It's largely an attempt to use ethnic mythology and the religions associated with it as a basis for common ground in such an empire. It has less a concern for concrete, economic issues, save for its distaste for anything Liberal.
Sup Forums is divided between compromising cucks and actual right wingers, who always wanted people like Milo dead
Sup Forums didn't create it. These feelings of resentment were generated naturally by an unnatural world. Sup Forums just happened to be there to say 'fuck you' first while riding a giant frog and shooting a rifle from its back at some social justice warlords.
"alt right" is just people who got a tiny taste of the real right you describe but can't fully swallow it and default back to nationalism , libertarianism or "classical" liberalism . Thing is the left puts this new wave of Milo faggots in the same group as actual far-rightists when these two groups oppose each other on almost every issue (even Nationalism)
lol you're living in idealistic fantasyland cuckboi
Stay deluded
The alt right doesn't exist. We are the current counter culture to rabid leftism, just like nazism was a direct response to communism
Don't try to over analyze things
I can't tell where you actually stand on this
are you a traditionalist like describes, or a liberal yourself?
>The alt right doesn't exist
U wot m8? There isn't even a unified mass leftist movement at the moment
>anything that doesn't preach complete inclusiveness and tolerance of people who hate you = violent rhetoric
It's sad, but the truth is people have become so polarized about politics that they instantly think someone with a differing opinion is somehow Satan. I don't get it. The worst people on Sup Forums are more sound minded than the worst people from the left.
Because at the end of the day, Sup Forums is arguing for western society, your society, while the extreme left argues against it.
>alt right
>unified
it's anything but.
You have the fag enabler milo fans, the nazi stormers, the hardcore Traditionalists (but even within this group the pagan and Christian ones fight amongst each other), and the old leftists who just don't like third wave feminism. All of these groups get called "alt-right" by the mainstream media.
There's that xenophobic, nationalist spin. Now for the violent? Let's just drop into literally any thread on Sup Forums about anything.
I will pay you for nudes if they're Milo's.
More like
>as liberalism is viewed as the norm the opposite traction becomes the one that is most popular because it's outside of the societal norm
See for example how liberalism was what was seen as outside the norm during the bush presidency while conservatism was the hot thing that the media talked about
it's a shift of views that happens every 8 years
Personally I just don't like the term alt right. I feel like it was deployed on us so faggots like milo and the other "leaders" could hijack this purely natural reaction we have to the "norm" of the day and turn it into a money making self aggrandizement scheme.
We are paleoconservatives, nationalists, and fascists. We don't need some stupid term to herd us together
no i think this is a bit bigger than just an 8 year cycle
Nearly every non-western country is xenophobic and nationalistic. It's the West that preaches tolerance and inclusiveness.
Go outside your comfort zone and visit some of these countries. Then come back with some better knowledge about how people outside your neighborhood think. It's eye opening to be honest.
this
10 year?
>Sup Forumsis satire
You fell for our taqqiya.
By mixing shitposting and banter with our earnest beliefs, we can simultaneously fight multiple fronts and disavow views to appease different audiences with a mere smug anime girl picture.
I'm a Marxist-Leninist, so, neither
>true conservative meme
>anonymity is egalitarianism
Kill yourself.
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>discuss
And how do you know that we still aren't being satirical and only doing this ironically?
We are gonna ride this ''joke'' till the end, m8.
What do you have against people like, say Dugin, then?
They take the best aspects of marxism and the USSR as well as monarchy and traditionalism (instead of atheism) and many of their enemies are the same as those of serious Marxists (American liberal capitalists). If anything you should have more allies on the current far-right than the moderate left.
There is only right leaners and right leaners who grew up left and don't quite know how to act. The "alt-right" terminology is unnecessary, and not many are the "anime masturbating irl meme spouting pony loving pretenders" that they're made out to be. The smallest minority of any group is always the loudest.
this, Sup Forums actually uses next level shitposting and banter dangerous in the hands of mere amateurs
Also what this guy said.
>mfw this will be the greatest practical joke since Hitler got to power
Alt-right was created by a white identitarian magazine to describe young college kids who were right wing, but opposed to cuckservatives and delving into "alternative" ideologies considered fringe. This includes: traditionalism, monarchists, national socialists, fascists, neo reactionaries, and paleolibertarians. It was coined back in 08 I believe after Ron Paul failed.
It's not a movement so much as a happening as neoconservatives have been widely discredited among the youth, but a large part of this same youth feel disaffected and morally opposed to modernism.
And Milo/shapiro and friends are most definitely infiltrators trying to push the groups you describe closer and closer to neocons. For fuck's sake Breitbart has been the biggest neocon pro-Israel journal on the Internet since forever.
I'm a trap, never had any friends. For me, the alt right was a way to let out my frustration with my conservative christian parents, but rebel against my liberal peers. I am a contrarian, I go against the flow. I am like a salmon swimming up the current. You have never met an opponent like me before, for I am unique, but I am a worthy opponent, so that's really all that matters. Will I out grow the alt right some day? Of course. But I grew out of my goth phase too.
alt-right is actually very liberal
it advocates for freedumbz for freedumb's sake but only for 148.8% white males
it's not very traditional
nah you're just a leaf posting satire
This
It will still be satire even when OP is in the gas chamber
Will you grow out of being a faggot, though? No, only fire can cleanse your filth.
>collection of political ideals didn't exist until the last
Stopped reading right there.
Nope, anonymous internet is just like democracy.
In the end it falls because the masses have too much influence. compare Sup Forums going to shit to what happened to America since its inception. Sup Forums was inherently vulnerable because of anonymity and ease of access
Exactly. If you don't realize Sup Forums, and really the Internet as an idea, is inherently liberal degeneracy, you're not on the real right.
Real right-wingers should realize that Sup Forums needs to go and the Internet should be destroyed or heavily regulated , if an actual right-wing nation were to come into being.
Sup Forums is a imageboard of peace you bigot.
Dugin is a marginal figure in Russian political landscape. His 'anti-imperialism' is the same as Hitler's 'anti-imperialism' (Adolf also loved to rant how Jews and Brits exploit the whole world) and his ideology has nothing to do with Marxism. To hell with such 'allies'.
His positions are profoundly anti Marxist and he seems never to have heard or ignored Marxism-Leninism-Maoism and its critique of the Soviet State collapse through internal revisionism but sees Marxism locked in the 19th century and has a nationalist interpretation of Leninism.
I call myself a "racial realist". My average day is waking up and watching an hour of Molynex, followed by "based mom", then Milo, then Ben Shapiro if it's not a school night. I call people cucks that disagree with me but secretly watch BBC porn every night. Most of us are NEETS and blame our problems on women.
The alt right can save the West!
Agreed. The "alt-right" started on Sup Forums with people being offensive as possible for the lulz. It wasn't even really satire. Just shitposting.
Scary thing is, if you repeat something often enough, people start to actually believe it. So after telling enough nigger and holocaust jokes, some idiots started thinking Hitler actually was right.
It's pretty sad, really. Humanity isn't ready for the internet yet.
alt right is just a way for russia to destroy the liberal anglo american order from within using the disaffected masses just like they did with communism. we are just communist fifth column in the 21st century, mark my words in 10 years there will be calls for us to establish russia friendly states around the world
Shapiro has completely abandoned it. Milo is just an opportunist that likes to upset SJWs and act as our fag shield. I have no doubt some people would let their opinions be affected by Milo's stances on some things. But I don't think he has nearly as much sway or influence as Sup Forums likes to think.
He's not going to convince nrx that we don't need a new family of nobility. He's not going to convince us that there are no differences between races. As far as recent history goes, the alt right changes people into extremist, not the other way around. Just ask Ben "a major setback for every wetback" Garrison.
Really it's just a bunch of anons that really hate fags who get upset. He's just a speaker popular with young Republican student organizations.
I seriously don't get the motives of people who come to Sup Forums just to make fun of Sup Forums using strawmen like this.
I've never even watched any of the people you mention for more than a few minutes, I have a job, and I quit porn. That doesn't mean I'll magically reverse all my views and start supporting women's "liberation" and multiculturalism.
Not gonna lie, I had a month phase where I watched greatest story never told and thought hitler was a hero. I even told my dad some of what I thought. Now I cringe at that. Hitler ruined nationalism and socialism is retarded and he was a shitty leader. Anyone that watches those documentaries is just revising history and they need to take some actual history classes to learn the full story not just the pro Hitler story.
That's not what alt-right is at all, you liberal dumbfuck.
Why do jews always try and trick people into believe that anything that opposes them is a joke?
So graduate to actual traditionalism. A lot of real conservatives would agree with you on Hilter.
>DA JOOS
Typical alt-rightist
bad ideas are like viruses, and its a GOOD thing you're immune system is growing. there's nothing to cringe about when you realize you're just an intelligent monkey.
Is this satirical
Traditions are largely irrelevant in today's society. I think just libertarianism is the way to go and I prefer to live a little old school but being a hardcore traditionalist is retarded.
How can you be a traditionalist and post on an Asian image board?
you can't and I fully agree with this.
It's very hard to reconcile this and my only conclusion is the Internet needs to fall and society has to collapse. I may hold some traditionalist views but I'm well aware that I'm part of the problem too.
what the fuck do you think traditionalism means? reverting to agrarian societies? or is that too "liberal" for a "real" traditionalist you have to revert to hunter gatherer tribes?
Or you could be a normal person and live your life without wishing for the apocalypse. Happy people don't have these thoughts.
>caring for right/left label spooks
I dont give a shit about that famy, I like shitposting, jokes, free speech and doing what i want. If it currently falls under left or right wing is not my concern.
ura faget
lol
I thought I was "happy" as a pornography addict. There are certain things that make people "happy" that are still inherently wrong and end up harming them in the long run.
And at this point, people who use porn are the "normal" ones and very few of them are actually happy.
>just like democracy
No, it isn't. There are no policies being voted upon or opinions banned from discussion. The problem with open democracy is that the future of a nation is guided by appeasing a mob, not that the mob interacts with itself without social constraints.
The most eloquent "Traditionalists" will point out that there was more social and economic cohesiveness prior to capitalism in the empires that spanned several countries. Often they appeal not only to monarchies, but to the emperor, which unified a region symbolically with appeals to tradition, anti-materialism/metaphysical and nationalist/regionalist view of their politics in relation to the rest of the world.
What is so insidious is that these reactionaries are correct in that there was more socioeconomic cohesion in pre-capitalist societies. What they get wrong is that it was their political institutions that destroyed this cohesion.
The more general reactionary view is that they view elements of society prior to capitalism as having been demonstrably better in many ways. But they can't seem to grasp that their own people ruined it, and they ruined it because the wealthy in those societies had more to gain by subjugating the poor with land enclosures, starvation, and monitored welfare to keep them disciplined and anchored to their waged employment.
Are you implying that when I refer to happy people, I'm referring to people who watch a lot of porn? I'm talking about being happy with your life and your loved ones, not jacking off a lot.
I don't deny that the French aristocracy became decadent and are at fault for the Revolution as much as the revolutionaries themselves.
If no one has noticed, it's just this one leaf and one burger setting up strawmen as if there aren't IDs.
>satire: the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues
Sup Forums really is satire regarding globalism and the regressive left, but the Sup Forums is satire meme indicates that many people apparently don't even understand that satire is not the same as irony.
People looking for an identity, whether it is in worshiping Hitler, being a half assed "traditionalist", ect, really just seem to not be confident in themselves. It shows an insecurity. Pick an ideology, stop flip flopping, but jumping to stupid shit like traditions and being a Nazi is fucking retarded.
I'm just giving an example, that a lot of people seem to say they're "happy" but are controlled by any number of vices. I still struggle with things like internet/Sup Forums addiction, but I don't claim I'm happy, and I highly doubt most people in my generation are truly happy, or else you wouldn't see endless amounts of discontent on the Internet (whether coming from right or left-leaning views).
But you seem to be saying it's best to ignore everything that live in ignorant bliss. I still think about that every day but was I really better off as a naive college student?
Nice ID
smug "I have no ideology" people have their own ideology too though.
Left-wing term: imperialism
Right-wing term: globalism.
A common feature/logic of right-wing objections is placing a supposed threat to homogenous cultural sovereignty at the forefront, which is why some fake 'anti-imperialists' (read: American/European white nativists) quickly became obsessed with the notion of a refugee invasion of Europe.
It's common for fascists to take a kernel of leftist truth and flip it on its head to invert culpability.
I think that the internet is skewed because the heaviest users are fuck ups and shut ins. You can be happy in our society, you not believing that is you projecting.
You're here on Sup Forums. If you're that happy why are you even here whining about other people being unhappy?
Either way you seem to agree with me that the Internet should be banned or removed.
maybe its not the internet thats making you a degenerate. maybe you are just a degenerate and morality exists independent of technology
kill yourself kike
low energy bait
If you are a traditionalist and you do not go to Church every Sunday then you are just a faker by my book.
I didn't read a single word of your post but I just wanted to say that that picture is rad as fuck and I've saved it like 20 times in its own separate folder.
I mean, I'm diagnosed autistic, I've been a dysgenic piece of trash for my whole life. Yet I still managed to succeed in school and get a job and develop half-decent social skills. So yeah of course most people on Sup Forums are social outcasts. But not all of them are the obese NEET strawman that people like to make fun of
Communism will win ;^)
>imperialism is the same as globalism
Nice bait.
i agree with you but i recognize your posting, you are always calling for the internet to be banned because you think technology and liberalism are intrinsically linked. why hold this view? you know people arent just going to give up on technology so the only possible outcome is that liberal values will continue to spread until all societies are completely corrupted and destroyed, are you sure you arent just a liberal?
What's the difference
The alt right are libertarians who got fed up with being pacifists after seeing how horrible the uncivilized world really is
let's be honest i just want me and people like me to be free of this addiction , this is probably true of most people who agree with me.
imperialism spreads and grows a cultural identity while globalism atomizes and rots all cultural identity
>Blacked.com
TOP KEK!!!!
You're a fat, unhygienic burger.
I could give less of a shit what your political beliefs are, you have no right, what so ever, to use the term 'banter' in any way, shape or form. kys
I should've known better than to ask a fash, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about