Do you think that it Sam and Frodo may have been homosexual, or at least Tolkien intended them to be but could not portray it because of the times he lived in?
Do you think that it Sam and Frodo may have been homosexual...
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Frodo is middle aged when the journey starts in the books, sam is more like his employee but they grow to be friends.
The movies are inevitably homoerotic, depending on your analysis
Tolkien was a conservative Catholic; no
No. They had comradery similar to soldiers who go off and fight a war together. The homosexual implications are just a product of the times we live in and today's culture. The actors have been asked this and deny it.
Do you think OP may have been unhealthily obsessed with sexual fantasies to assume that a male friendship cannot exist without homoeroticism, or at least he simply misassumes but could not portray it because of the highly sexualized environment he surrounds himself in?
His son already confirmed it
No. But if they were made in this day and age they would ofcourse be for MUH DIVERSITY
confirmed what? proof?
> I don't read books but here's my slash analysis
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>sam is more like his employee
He IS his employee. He's the fucking gardener's kid, meant to grow up to take his father's place.
Sam's tale is a tale of the aristocrat's friendly employee(if he even gets paid beyond room and board on the estate) who becomes a batman when the war comes around, and is counted on to bend over backwards and jump on the mortar shell to protect his master like a good little commoner.
Tolkien even said that Sam was the de facto hero of this story and I believe also called him Frodo's batman
no confirmed poof
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post a better scene
you can't
scared ya didn't i
>no expressions of fraternity allowed or it's misinterpreted as homolust subcontext
I hate my goddamn generation.
Christopher Tolkien here, can confirm
Which is all to do with the shame he felt about the batman who took care of his pampered ass in the great war.
I'm surprised there aren't any capefags in here getting confused over the term "batman."
Defintely not but I certainly enjoyed imagining they were homosexual when I was watching them jump around on the bed in theaters
>to assume that a male friendship cannot exist without homoeroticism
He's just talking about one friendship, and probably not even being serious. I'm going to guess that he doesn't think this of literally every person and character he sees. He probably just wants to talk details about gay hobbits for fapping purposes.
They're hugging each other while crying.
Poor Woodhouse
Sam is obviously bisexual, Tolkien "specialists" try to pass it as "camaraderie", as if an educated men such as Tolkien never before had heard about homosexuals, in a time they were deeply shunned. Sam was the gardener's kid, not nearly as close to Frodo as Pippin and Merry were, he spoke with Bilbo and Frodo about adventures and elves from time to time, but that's it. All that considered, Sam was by far the most loyal companion, much more than Frodo's closest friends. They were not nearly as close as people try to pass it, plus Sam was frequently very effeminate, often going to tears for animals. He was also very intrusive, and often scared Frodo, which was (and still is) a characteristic associated with homosexuals.
>At that moment there was a knock on the door, and Sam came in. He ran to Frodo and took his left hand, awkwardly and shyly. He stroked it gently and then he blushed and turned hastily away
>Sam eased the pack on his shoulders, and went over anxiously in his mind all the things that he had stowed in it, wondering if he had forgotten anything: his chief treasure, his cooking gear... ...various small belongings of his master’s that Frodo had forgotten and Sam had stowed to bring them out in triumph when they were called for. He went through them all.
I've never been able to shake the image of the batman carrying around the officer's cricket bat, myself.