Because I'm two episodes in and I'm really unimpressed.
Its premise makes no sense, there is no way this person would get elected Pope, it just seems like an American Atheist's fantasy or something, a secret atheist who is american gets elected Pope and easy controls and takes over an ancient conservative heavily entrenched bureaucracy
More than that I have yet to meet a single likable character. I sometimes think that writers confuse people enjoying shows about bad people with people enjoying shows about unlikable people
should I keep going? Am I missing something? Its not awful but is it worth my time?
the show is certainly not for you. Better wait walking dead and game of thrones' new seasons.
Nathan King
>there is no way this person would get elected Pope If you'd continue watching, you'd learn he was elected by the hand of God . >More than that I have yet to meet a single likable character I feel you here. Worst of all, literally every second character is inexplicably homosexual, seemingly just for the sake of the plot.
Oliver Diaz
frigin americans
Jayden Harris
You are probably atheist am I right ?
Dominic Harris
I'm atheist and I love the show desu
Mason Hughes
The Young Pepe
Lincoln Nguyen
>not liking Sorrenkino
Jeremiah Myers
I didn't like it either, OP. Really boring. Main character is a corrupt piece of shit.
Charles Myers
Have you ever checked the medieval Popes?
Aaron Foster
Wtf did you watch? Retard
Joseph Hall
how the fuck are any Americans watching it already?
Benjamin Hill
>religiousfags thinks its making fun of religion >atheistfags thinks its trying to making religion look good plebs all of them
Christian Edwards
ya, but the medieval Popes were also elected based on local Italian politics, rich families that could and often did threaten war if a Pope they disliked got chosen
My problem isn't him being athiest its the heavy handed writing and the poorly thought out premise, they elected someone that no one knew anything about seriously? No one would ever do that especially in modern times, no one could do that, in episode one the Secretary of State had the Pope investigated when if the show of being realistic he would have had that done when this guy was nominated to the Papacy
what is a torrent?
Tyler Morales
I was really hyped for it because I love Jude Law, so I forced myself through the first half of the show. It gets pretty good in the 3rd episode or so, it gets great in the second half, the last 2 or 3 are amazing. >unlikable people Most of them become lovable.
Benjamin Green
Aside from a couple of Borgias and anti-popes, they honestly weren't that bad. Most of the "medieval popes were evil" stuff comes from Reformation propaganda.
Ayden Fisher
The show takes a few episodes until you get it. At least for it was the case.
Colton Harris
I've never heard this show talked about outside of Sup Forums.
Lincoln Wood
Your reading is way too simplistic OP. The show isnt attempting to make any blanket statements about the value of religion at all imo, its focused much more on religious subjectivity in general. Like the phenomenological experience of religion and different manifestations of that experience, as well as an examination of the intersection between capitalism and spirituality (at least that's how I read the whole American pope thing)
Not saying this is correct, but it's how I see the show as a religious studies-fag
Kayden Wilson
The only thing really wrong with the show is that the protagonist has plot armor induced super powers that morons are eating up because the show calls them "the breath of the holy spirit."
Other than that it's actually just a neat little story about an autist actually trying to overcome abandonment issues.
Samuel Jones
>a secret atheist who is american gets elected Pope and easy controls He's not an atheist though.
Ayden Bell
Found the papist apologist.
Ethan Baker
Basically what I'm saying is that if you're not into looking at religion as a concept, you're probably not gonna like the show. The narrative/character drama stuff is pretty mediocre imo
Gabriel Robinson
This show is so good I just assume people who say they don't like it are trolling
Jonathan Lee
>a secret atheist
I've watched the whole show twice. He's not atheist.
Did this just air in America or something? Why is every thread about it now just saying "hurr it's unrealistic"
Nicholas Gomez
I think it just appeals to a niche, plus it really is kinda lacking in the departments a lot of other American television emphasizes.
Benjamin Cook
is he not? certainly doesn't seem like he believes in God, in fact he literally confessed to it and then played it off as a joke when the priest freaked out on him
repeatedly talks about how he can't find or see God himself
I can tell he wants to believe but from what I saw in the first two episodes it sounds like he doesn't believe
Logan Edwards
It's clever and the cinematography is pretty unique. Also its one of the most original things to come out in a while.
Lincoln Allen
He's not atheist at all. He believes in God without doubt because he is the second coming so it's funny to him, as the pope, to tell people he doesn't think God exists
Daniel Lopez
Dude just finish watching the show. Part of the reason it's so good is how it makes you feel about characters in the first episode versus the last
Hudson Martin
Do you want me to call you 'junk'? I mean, for old times sake, or can we just agree this show is great, but maybe it could be better...?
Dominic Ortiz
>literally every second character is inexplicably homosexual
literally every second catholic priest irl is homosexual though
Lincoln Davis
The position of the Pope was never in the Bible and arose out of the bureaucracy and centralization of the church's power. It was and to a lesser extent today, a political position. Until the 20th century, many popes regularly and quite openly had misstresses and bastard children. These bastard children sometimes becomes Popes too. For a Pope to not being a pious Christian or even being agnostic, is not too far fetched.
Charles Lewis
Ya, the middle ages and modern catholic church are very different, the politics that allowed people like Alexander the 6th to become Pope aren't the same today and someone like him could never get elected to the modern church
More than that it seems like no one knew anything about him before electing him, which is completely unrealistic, even if he actually kept as low of a profile as he did no one would allow a literal unknown to get elected they would at least look into him
also you know things like him banishing a bishop to Alaska would probably have come up and have been well known, people don't fail to notice the Arch Bishop of Boston or New York or whatever getting banished
Like how is it the first time the Secretary of State even has him looked into is after the election, a Papal election isn't a fast process and its probably smart to investigate anyone who is seriously nominated, besides someone as powerful as the Sectary of State of Vatican City likely has a not unsizable voting block that he can control or at least influence, so again how did this guy get elected Pope without the Sectary knowing anything about him
Adam Perry
it gets gud after 5 episode jsut hold on
Logan Thompson
>they elected someone that no one knew anything about seriously
But that's fucking wrong.
Brayden Ramirez
>the middle ages and modern catholic church are very different
>implying
Bentley King
Well the Sectary knew nothing about him
There was also a nice expositional meeting of like 4 cardinals where they all talked about how someone got this guy elected but no one really knew anything about him
Jaxon Walker
>Not liking Voiello.
What a faggot.
Daniel Cook
Did you actually watch the show? Be honest.
Dylan Roberts
>saying this shit in the year of 2017
Noah Jackson
ummm ya, the Pope isn't controlled by petty Italian nobles and bankers anymore
Most medieval papal elections were based on local Italian politics more than anything else
Jordan Cox
Voiello knew that he is supposed to be easily controllable Turns out he was wrong
Ryder Morales
>Did this just air in America or something? Ding Ding Ding
protestant and baptists cucks in america of course won't get catholic kino
Nicholas Allen
Half of the haters seem to think it's about an atheist evil pope from House of Cards. While in reality it's about the second coming of Christ.
Benjamin Morgan
I told you, I watch the first two episodes, read the thread, and I can't suspend my disbelief for writing this poor
if they explain more later, it helps but why don't they just start with the election instead of skipping over it
what was that based off of? How he is an ego maniac who banished another guy to Alaska for being egotistical? These things just don't add up
John Turner
>what was that based off of? Because Spencer told him so
Sebastian Campbell
>what was that based off of? He's not a guy from the street you know. He was a cardinal for many years, people know him. Or rather they think they know him.
Juan Morris
>should I keep going? No, end it. Out the window.
>Am I missing something? A soul. Go on then.
Jose Powell
>what was that based off of? How he is an ego maniac who banished another guy to Alaska for being egotistical? These things just don't add up
Official Cardinale ranking: >Top Tier Voiello Gutierrez >High Tier Spencer Caltanissetta >Mid Tier Dussolier Aguirre >Low Tier Marivaux Ozolins >Had potential but was instantly forgotten tier Assente
Bentley Watson
that's aquite good title for 2nd season
Lincoln Green
Some people really aren't capable of understanding or appreciating basic things like satire or social commentary, these are the same people who find capeshit and identity politics amusing
Gavin Price
man I fucking love this show
Cameron Moore
I don't know how they can do a second season without bastardizing the first
Connor Anderson
>called Assente >is a fag
wew
Asher Murphy
That CGI kangaroo hurt my eyes
Kayden Rodriguez
Any good quality nudity in this?
Isaiah Rivera
Actually, yeah.
Sorrentino clearly likes tiddies. Unlike GoT most of the women aren't flat as a board.
Jonathan Bailey
the stream i found doesnt translate the italian parts, are they supposed to be like that?
Julian Diaz
>airing tomorrow nooo, TYP threads used to be the best and comfiest threads around, they'll turn to shit now
Nicholas Ortiz
Yes
Liam James
>dat femnazi with the B painted on her chest hggggnnn
Tyler Rodriguez
Nope you need to download subtitles
Grayson Stewart
fuck this show then, boring af
Jayden Thomas
there are sites with subtitles but i wont link it because i want to keep my site :^)
James Baker
Good pleb filter is working perfectly
Luke Morris
the one i download have included subtitles and everything that dude make me wonder how fucking dumb Sup Forums users are when it come to streaming/torrenting shit
Easton Roberts
>t just seems like an American Atheist's fantasy or something, a secret atheist who is american gets elected Pope and easy controls and takes over an ancient conservative heavily entrenched bureaucracy
He's a religious reactionary who's having a mid-life crisis of faith.
Daniel Bell
i dont torrent, stream only. not wasting time finding a stream with subs when the show hella boring
Isaiah Bell
>Writer: So there's this pope right? >HBO Exec: Go on. >Writer: But get this. He's young. And he fucks. >HBO Exec: [cigar falls out of mouth]
Carson Walker
big bang theory doesnt have subtitles go watch that
Ian Ross
just post the fucking picture next time if you want to shitpost you retard
Joshua Evans
this
the first half is a black comedy with super expensive sets and nice photography, and often it feels like it tries too hard to make Pious XIII a sort of Frank Underwood, which sucks. The humour is pretty good, but no one has an interesting character arc besides Voiello. It feels like the Pope doesn't even has one. The "emotional" scenes feel forced and lead nowhere.
Kevin Sanders
>not originally made for hbo >he never fucks
>youve never seen the show excellent post:DD
Josiah Brooks
Show is great. It's been the first new show that I've really been engrossed with in a long time.
Asher Rodriguez
His speech was good tho
Mason Diaz
The "what have we forgotten" speech in the first episode?
Yeah it was good. Great way to reveal a lot about his character, and it made me expect a different kind of show, which I finally got in the second half.
Isaiah Green
pleb filter: the show
if you don't enjoy it don't watch, you fucking pleb
Owen Gonzalez
That too, but I was referring to the real one
Mason Peterson
Daily reminder to watch Il Divo
Tyler Diaz
The Esther bits have been my favorite so far. I found the pope's compassion for her despite his ruthlessness everywhere else to be interesting.
Aiden Collins
>Pious XIII
triggers me every time. the name is Pius
Owen Ortiz
sorry, I get confused because of Pious Augustus in Eternal Darkness.
>I have yet to meet a single likeable character oh poor soul...
Brayden Sanchez
...
Ian Nguyen
Voiello's mole makes me feel uncomfortable every time I see it
Liam Jackson
This show really took me by surprise. They could have easily made it a successful series about a young progressive pope who tries to bring progress but has to fight against established "evil" powers. What I got was way more nuanced and interesting. Pius holds conservative views and is cunning,stoic and rageful but there are enough scenes where he seems christlike and resembles a true saint. Great series!