To be considered GOAT both Messi and CR7 have to win the World Cup

> To be considered GOAT both Messi and CR7 have to win the World Cup.

Do you agree?

It will be their last World Cup.

CR7 is already the GOAT tho

CR7 is already the GOAT tho

You can't be GOAT without winning the World Cup at least once. That's not how it works.

Even Zidane is > CR7

Their overall club careers weigh a hell of a lot more than their international careers of which Ronaldo's is much better.

dunno, man
you're retarded probably

I guess Schurrle is more of a GOAT than Ballack

the GOAT is the best player
messi is better than ronaldo therefore he is the goat
it's simple math

No. They are literally the two best footballers to have ever played, regardless of WC trophies

In 50 years the only thing people will remember they were good players but never won a World Cup.
People will still rate Pele and Beckenbauer.

None of the German NT will ever reach GOAT. They were a Mannschaft. CR7 won the EURO for Portugal in 2016. Messi was too autistic to deliver in 2014. Next year both are the leaders that could win World Cup for their nations.

Cristiano will never be GOAT, no matter how impressive his stats are. Same reason why Gerd Muller doesn't even make anyone's top 15 list even though he won everything there is to win (including the WC, CL and Ballon d'Or) and had the most impressive post-war goal records of any player.

Messi is the GOAT by any metric. His lack of a WC is the only thing keeping Maradona and Pele in the conversation.

>scores 5 past the mighty elche, las palmas, granada and getafe on a weekly basis
>can't tap in a benulty vs chile, can't do shit vs bolivia or venezuela

Hmmmmm......

>CR7 won the euro

Huh weird I don't remember him being on the pitch at all when they won

>give shit to messi when he chokes with his NT when he leads them to the finals
>give Ronaldo all the praise when he's not even on the fucking field as his team plays a +100 minute game they win

If ronaldo doesn't at least make a WC final appearance he's a fraud

100000% THIS.. People compare Messi to Maradona and Pele, blind fans compare Renaldo to MESSI...

>People will still rate Pele and Beckenbauer.
Isn't that strictly an American thing?

FIFA should make it illegal to compare players from different eras to another. Gerd Müller would have his "bomb explosion celebration" and his own 500€ Bomber striker Adidas limited edition (tm) (R) shoes + 1 trillion $$$ buyout clause at PSG. Just stop it.

It would be really a GOAT thing carrying Portugal or current Argentina to a WC trophy.

>when he leads them to the finals
>0 (ZERO) goals in knockout phase
>invisible in the pitch

Di Maria carried that team to the final to be desu

>the final is the only game that counts
they would've gone out in the groups w/o him

Practically all the legends have acknowledged this

This is why earthquakes destroy beaners

It won't be Messi last WC, remember Zidane in '06? People said he was devastated, and he's what we remember the most about that WC, Messi'll have to compete with Neymar for the spotlight in '22, but he'll be a top playmaker, delivering great balls to the whatever literally who he will have in front on him