Did the bugs really send the meteor or was it a false flag?

Did the bugs really send the meteor or was it a false flag?

So let me get this straight.

The bugs literally shat out a meteor which then traveled through hyperspace before hitting Earth AND that somehow didn't obliterate the entire planet?

The bugs are that precise? And it doesn't take the meteor 300000 years to get there?

Something's fishy.

I bet this cuck gets his (news) from fake news like CNN

t. bug

>Typical mamalian, thinks we just launched one asteroid towards only them.

umm RACIST much? We've got serious concerns like the appointment of the mayor of Buenos Aires and this is what you care about?

Hey! I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all!

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How did the war with the bugs start in the first place?

>an entire planet covered with hives with gigantic elephant sized bugs
>absolute no biosphere on the planet outside the bugs
>no plants no game no water
And the government expects me to believe the bugs just eat air or some shit. Don't listen to their bullshit.

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Mormons.

When I have questions, I just consult my turd eye tbph famalamapai

Was that in the movie?

I recall the book had colonists setting up shop on some bug planets, with the expected results.

jews

This film is shit. Prove me wrong.

I can't

Your wrong

Yeah, Mormons were setting up cults deep in bug territory and being killed off by them.

Who ever made that doesn't have a sense of scale.

it's parody & sci-fi kino, there, btfo bitch

user cannot check 'em if you disable his hand!

that never made sense, the bugs don't have hands

They didn't go to war with bugs until Buenos Aires was destroyed. They were probably training if there was a rebel incursion or some shit.

They sent it after being attacked.

They never had their car

It has been years since I read the book but doesn't Rico's father survive the destruction of Buenos Aires and join the Mobile Infantry himself?

>its a starship troopers thread

It's a deconstruction of the book, and one of the only adaptations to successfully attack its own source material.

Yup

>he read the book

That's more than Veerhoven did.

That's a big knife.

>can throw a rock through the entire galaxy
>not throwing a big one enough to destroy Earth
Idiots.

By the end of the movie was Rico already higher in rank than Carmen/Faggot? I know his beta friend was like an instant colonel for no reason but Rico should have been ranked up quick as fuck after being the one to see the bug and call it in first.

>successfully

No it didn't, it failed miserably. It was supposed to criticise the fascist state, but the vast majority of people who see the movie feel nothing but sympathy for them.

>parody
SATIRE you fucking moron. Why do you literal retards never know the difference?

It's literally a perfect film, though.

>Sup Forums unironically loves starship troopers and think it's "women can't understand" when it's probably one of the most left wing and anti-military mainstream movies

For a guy who lived in a Nazi occupied country he kind of has an excuse to find the book depressing and grim

The anime is the best proove me wrong faggots

Ace got squad lead but got demoted or resigned, cant remember which.

Rico got platoon lead(i think) after the incident in that outpost.

Barney was a high rank in a very important section of military intelligence.

So no, I don't think Rico levelled up after calling in the bug.
I mean even Zim, the guy that caught the bug(man!) stayed private(albeit by his own choosing).

I think Rico also stayed as Platoon leader.

Carmen was 3rd in command on the ship I think(even though she was called number 2).

yeah whatever

>that somehow didn't obliterate the entire planet?
What are you lying about?

in the dreadful third film its shown [/spoiler] some bugs are actually planet sized so i see no reason they havent colonized planets closer to earth ... now whether that stuff about the trajectory of the meteor showing the bugs 'HOME" planet was true im not sure

also the 4th cgi film is hugely underrated and the second would have been far better received if Clancy Brown had agreed to star ..as was planned

BAIT you fucking moron. Why do you literal retards never know the difference?

Can we just take a moment to talk about how Zim is the greatest man in any movie?

>Incredibly tough on his cadets but knows when show lenience
>Doesn't want to stay safe on Earth when war is declared, wants to fight
>Gives up his rank and privilege to do so
>Right on the front line to capture the brain bug

The book's Fed isn't fascism or anything, though

It's pretty much a libertarian utopia other than needing to serve if you want to vote

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I'd prefer a dubs thread

t. schizo

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Requiring people go through the rigorous psychological realignment that is military service kinda means the only people who will vote are people predisposed to always agree with the military. Thus, fascist.

While the movie implied that military was the only service that was not the intention. Heinlein said there were plenty of civilian jobs that counted as service.

you forgot
>voiced by mr krabs

But user, it's not military service exclusively.

You can work as a nurse and such.

Putting something in for the country = you have a say. That's more like communism, and throw in the blanket freedom that it has, there's no way you can get fascism.

It's not socialism, or even leftism for that matter. It's classic liberalism where you need to earn a vote.

FUCK YOU
the only good bug is a dead bug!

"The people of the Terran Federation are either "Citizens" or "Civilians". Everyone is born a "Civilian", and at age 18 every "Civilian" has the right to enroll for a minimal 2-year term of "Federal Service". In theory a completed term of Federal Service ensures a "Citizen" is willing to put the needs of the community before their own personal well-being. This is because Federal Service is tough and dangerous (by design). It can involve joining the military, being a human guinea pig, testing survival equipment, or manual labour. The Federation makes it quite easy to quit a term of service before completion (even during war-time), but once someone has quit they are never allowed to enroll again. This is to ensure that all volunteers are dedicated, whilst also discouraging people from leaving.

The Federation makes the opportunity of Federal Service open to everyone, able-bodied or not. A doctor giving a medical examination says "if you came in here in a wheelchair and blind in both eyes and were silly enough to insist on enrolling, they would find you something silly to match. Counting the fuzz on a caterpillar by touch, maybe." The only impediment that can render one ineligible for federal service is if a psychiatrist determines that one cannot understand the oath of service.

That is why it is kino. Go through the layers of irony 1 by 1.

1: At first glance it is a scifi action flick, and a high quality one at that, a classic as far as this genre is concerned.

2: Next up is the Verhoeven's usual "deep" underlying meaning.
>dude, like, it reflects our own society and really makes you think, lmao

3: However the more refined patrician expected this, they would look to the book itself and how it ensnared the modern liberal moviemaker Verhoeven and used him as a vessel to spread its message.

Here we have a fascist state, yet one with male and female soldiers, an Oprah-sized black female general replaces an incompetent white male, one where people who don't have the vote can become wealthy and have a lot of freedom. It blows out of the water the notions that democracy is essential for oppressed minorities, capitalism, meritocracy and nice things. Call me a fedora if you must but we can see this today, China's economy is growing rapidly without any kind of democracy, westerners can do business there and only have to deal with corruption that is about the same as anywhere else in the world. Democracy is more a reflection of naturally formed power structures, maybe it helps a little, but it was never necessary and certainly not something we should depend on, we should take a close look at the underlying power structures of society as well.

I stopped reading the book too. It was really dumb.

I understand that the writer felt that soldiers dont get enough appreciation but how he imagines a fairer society is completely retarded.

Bug apologists should be purged from this board.

It's not that soldiers = better society

Rather, giving something to the community = a say on how the community is run

Even without that stuff, the combat is kino in the book, as are the sci-fi aspects.

He thought that people who dont care about their society enough to serve it shouldnt be allowed to vote. Military service being the greatest service.

While reading the book I thought "Only an American could be this indoctrinated and still be white"

>platoon lead
That would make him a lieutenant
>3rd in command
Yeah ships have the captain, then the 1st and then 2nd. That would probably mean carmen was a sub-lieutenant

The third one was great. When jesus robots saved humanity I blew my load.

It was a good kind of bad. I dont know how they did it but they did.

Fucking this. I've been to America west and I have never seen a more brainwashed people in my life. They literally believed that America can do no wrong and that its people failed it when they voted in Obama.

What's wrong with service = right to vote?

The society is liberal as liberal can be, it's just that you need to serve the community to vote in how it's run.

That seems pretty fair.

The short distance to a polling booth does a good job of filtering out the lazy and the stupid.

It doesn't filter the indulgent and subversive though, which is the point of having the service.

I love how you retards that criticize the system of governance in the book always fail to know that military service isn't the only service required to earn the ability to vote. You simply have to serve, and in being willing to serve a job has to be found for you.

The bugs were right.

>the book

Didn't realize this was /lit/.

SHIT GET

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>Did the bugs really send the meteor
Brain bugs sent it, yes.

>or was it a false flag?
Also yes, Earth let it happen so they could justify all-out invasion.

>Those numbers

sup /lbg/

gorro is a pedo

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>the book

Didn't realize this was /lit/.

DIGITS

Reminder that the Starship Troopers Anime is better than the Starship Troopers Movie.

Yes, the attack on Fort Joe Smith is shown as a bug attack victim near the start of the movie.

heinlein is an edgy american libertarian. Nobody reads that shit.

You mean that animated movie that came out? It wasn't bad

Rolling

No, the Anime OVA. I think it's five episodes.

WHY DO FUCKING RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT MORBIDLY OBESE BALDING VIRGIN DISGUSTING SUBHUMAN MODS DELETE GETS, WHY THE FUCK, I'M GOING TO FIND YOU AND MURDER YOU IN YOUR SLEEP YOU FUCKING MORON

>Getting this buttblasted over some numbers

The original poster deleted it.

WATCH the director commentary, it was a false flag attack and also the HUMANS are the ones that started the war

this, it didn't matter if the bugs sent it or not. the federation didn't stop it, that's one thing for sure. they brag about how they can destroy rogue meteors heading to earth and all of a sudden they miss this one at the most convenient time

all i know is that he turns into big boss

I thought him turning into big boss was pretty funny. Greatly enhanced my enjoyment.

Sup Forums IS FOREVER MORE, PROVEN BY KEK, NOT /lit/

BUG SHIT CAN'T MELT WHOLE CITIES

Fascism indicates a right wing attitude, not just forced conscription

Didn't realize this was /lit/.

(reposting what was deleted)

>Not realizing it's an army

They have logistics too. Besides we never saw the entire planet, just a scene. It's like going to the Sahara and thinking all Earth looks like it

Bugs don't have FTL, dumbies.

IN SPACE