Best character of 2016

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>liberals actually thought that these were the good guys in the movie

I'd liked his constant turtling. I feel this is a more accurate depiction of samurai.

TAKE ME TO INOUE-SAMA

DISHMISH YOUR WHYVES

>Hey, did you hear about how the Europeans discovered a new continent?
>Oh, really? How did they treat the locals?
>They got along just swell!
>Oh, good! Let's open our borders immediately and welcome them with open arms!

Is this how you thought it went down in real life?

here's how it actually went in real life.

The Japanese enjoyed trade with the Portuguese and had no problem with their religion. It wasn't until the British stepped in and told the Japs that Catholics were an evil organization that tried to overthrow governments and were trying to sow their evil influence over Japan just like they had in Europe. The Japanese listened to the British and crushed Catholicism under its heel. It wasn't until later that they just stopped distinguishing between different denominations and started outlawing all forms of Christianity.

Thanks Britain.

Not the best character of 2016 but certainly the best of the movie. Kichijiro comes close though.

Can't that argument be used to justify the inquisition and the first crusade? They were both about expelling imperialistic Muslims from historically Christian lands

Would Imperial Japan be able to deal with the Muslim problem more efficiently?

They seemed better equipped at psychological warfare than any European nation. Shame they are so castrated nowadays.

Probably. The Christians failed miserably. People talk about the Spanish reconquest, but they lost all of North Africa and the Middle East to Muslims

The point of the movie was to show a nativist ideology taken to its extreme and how ugly that can be. That said, you didn't see Japanese Shinto priests going to Portugal and trying to proselytize and convert every European to their way of life.

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it was a 6/10 movie but you aren't wrong OP. libtards want to wank off over diversity, yet Issue Ogata will not get a supporting oscar nom. just kill me

>The Japanese enjoyed trade with the Portuguese and had no problem with their religion.
they hated Christianity, it was a foreign religion openly proselytising in their lands

Japan doesn't have to deal with converts demanding sharia in their cities, unlike Europe. Maybe intolerance has a place.

because they're backwards savages

they certainly forced their civilization on other Asians though once they were strong enough

>backwards savages
Eh, Japanese could be called advanced savages. They were technological leaders, but they viewed peasant classes as barely functional domesticated animals.

You can call a farmer herding cattle savage if you want, but lower classes exist for a reason.

No, the Portuguese were hated and treated with suspicion for most of their stay in Japan. The Jesuits regularly interfered with the political landscape earning the ire of many warlords including the founder of the Tokugawa Shogunate. It also didn't help that the Portuguese engaged in piracy and slave trade in the region. The English presenting themselves in Japan merely confirmed existing fears of the Catholics and Portuguese.

>The point of the movie was to show a nativist ideology taken to its extreme and how ugly that can be.
I don't disagree, but most of the liberal reaction to the film comes from the perspective that they were completely justified in their persecution of religious minorities because it was a necessary response to European imperialism. Would those same liberals use that argument when it came to Jewish and Muslim persecution in reconquered Spain? Would that be an appropriate response to Muslim takeover of European communities today?

>copy everything from China
>meet Europeans
>copy everything from Europe
they've literally never been leaders

it was mostly the Dutch who were against the Portuguese in Japan, the English had a good relationship with Portugal

>copy everything from Europe

They only did that after Perry showed up in a huge black ship and forced their borders open.

>because they're savages
The elite of the country actually already enjoyed a pretty sophisticated society. The serfs lived and died like animals (as they said in the movie). I think more pertinent is the difference in ideologies. Judaism, for example, could never become a homogenizing force because it is rooted in a bloodline and therefore exclusively promises salvation to members of that bloodline. Buddhism, similarly, allows for man to transcend himself and attain nirvana but the barrier of entrance to learning how to follow the path to do so is exclusive to the higher castes of society (Buddha was a Brahman to begin with). Conversely, Christianity is inclusive and only requires one to be baptized and repent for their sins and be forgiven by a priest in order to enter eternal salvation (which is a way more appealing offer if you're a serf who has no hope of entering the elite)

Poor people in Japan frequently became buddhist monks living in temples. It wasn't something only for the nobility.