Was he human? how the fuck did he do it bros?

whats your favorite piece by this absolute alien?

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*blocks your path*

cello suite no 1

Haha no, bud not at all. Beethoven just regurgitated the same shit with new tech.

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st mattheus passion (going to be played everywhere all the time in a couple of weeks)
the art of the fugue
mass in b minor
goldberg variations

i have a soft spot for keyboard concerto 2, but would not say it is the 'best' of his works, but really lifts my mood when i am down from time to time.

also brandenburg concertos, saw them live recently. good times.

and much much else.

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GOAT

Heard this in a nearby church yesterday, might as well share. This rendition is a bit slow for my taste but still fine.
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why is mathews gonna be played everywhere?

To put it correctly, the Goldberg variations are written by Goldberg. Only the theme, the Aria, was written by Bach

it's an easter season staple. at least in NL you have many many concertos and even ads everywhere. and like 80% people are not even religious around here.

not sure if bait or stupid

in any case 5/10 made me respond

Bach is really not that impressive once you actually study music

He said that anyone could write as he did if they studied enough.

Hmm..

source? i've heard some theories that aria might not have been composed by bach, but never heard that the variations would have been composed by someone else.

I stand corrected. My bad, I have no idea why I had that idea then..

>Mozart
>Beethoven
>Schubert
>Chopin
>Mendelssohn
>Schumann
>Rossini
>Liszt
>Brahms
>Saint-Saëns
>Wagner
>Mahler
>Debussy
>Strauss
>Stravinsky
>Schoenberg
>Prokofiev
>Sibelius
>Vaughan Williams
>Hindermith
>Britten
>All loved Bach with many having him as their favourite composer
I guess you are right random user, you sure showed me how much better you understand him than all of these composers.

the piece that plays at the end of killing of a sacred deer

He stole from Petzold.

It's the famous Toccata which might not have been composed by Bach.

listened to art of the fuge while stoned

contrapunctus VI got me phisically shaken, functional harmony is so fuckin beautiful

>listened to art of the fuge while stoned
it's even better on acid, the trees danced contrapunctally, it made me cry for i heard god

Also there is some debate as to whether or not he wrote the cello suites.

Actually its the other way around, he becomes even more impressive once you study the music.

>how the fuck did he do it bros?
Know theory down-pat, worked his ass off. That's pretty much it.

>bach

>Tipping a fedora
>Underrating Bach

yep, that's you

I'm gonna be completely honest, I find Bach boring as hell.
Roast me all you want, but he's listenable for the most part to me.

its ok

I think classical artists just wanted to explore more ideas outside of the baroque genre. Bach was an absolute genius, but he's not all that there is. To be honest, you usually see this sort of fanatical dickriding in young tryhards who only just recently discovered Bach.

youtube.com/watch?v=GMkmQlfOJDk

Yeah plebs seem to have a big problem with him, I guess you have to have maturity to appreciate him. He's not as flashy as some of the other baroque and classical composers. The emotions are subtle, the counterpoint is subtle and masterful.

To appreciate Bach you have to be able to appreciate harmony and the interplay of tension and release, you have to appreciate "charm" in music. You need to have experienced joy and happiness in your life.

>you need to have experienced joy and happiness in your life

so most of Sup Forums really not Bach's demographic

This. He is more like a mathematician than a musician. Able to formulate great compositions but I still would rather listen to pop.

>All loved Bach with many having him as their favourite composer
uuummmmm so what.
many rock bands say they love the beatles even thou their music is boring as fuck, just like in Bach's case.
if a genius musician says he likes another composer that doesnt mean that this fucking composer is genius.

>was he human? how the fuck did he do it bros?
Practice and pretension from a young age. Universally schooling was unironically a mistake.

I'm in a history of western music from medieval to romantic eras course at uni and Bach is definitely the most impressive composer I've studied so far, along with haydn and mozart

Bach is purely intellectual. I wouldn't say there's any real emotion or excitement or raw creativity involved. He's an architect, not a sculptor.

And I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

This, a lot of Bachfags on here don't know a lot about music, but instead were convinced Bach was the best at it. This leads them to making insane claims about his relation to music or humanity as a whole instead of analyzing his work. Stuff like "Bach had no influences" being a thing said here a lot. Louis Armstrong tends to be the Jazz version of this, with stuff like claiming he had no influences and inventing scat. That's not to say anything bad about the people who do know bach and louis well and see them as the best, just those who pass-over appreciation for idolatry when getting into them.

Nice handwriting idiot

Could Bach still be alive?

Could you be that fucking dumb?

I saw him at Costco last Friday

I mean, think about it.

I saw Bach at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday.

...

No but Petzold is.

this guy looks soy af

>so most of Sup Forums really not Bach's demographic
pretty much lol

Can you tell us more? What was he like? What was he buying?

Bach is literally just math as music. There's hardly any emotion at all. Just mathematical formulas moved around different keys and layered and it just seems so lifeless.
Bach is the classical equivalent of shred guitar. Flahsy and fun to watch, but not really interesting or emotional.

>There's hardly any emotion at all.
really? no emotion in this?
youtube.com/watch?v=X9Dh43kVL1Q

maybe there is something with you. his music is as purely emotional as it gets

Do you guys like dvorak

Ugh, organ music is fucking trash

yeah
>ugh

Bach is great because he combines emotion and technicality in a perfect synthesis.

Bach uses emotion in pretty much every piece. Harmony is what causes emotion, and Bach is the master of it. We still use the same harmony he used today, but a simplified, bastardized version. Most pop songs use 1/100th of the harmony Bach used,and thereby 1/100th of the emotion.

Go listen to his violin sonatas and partitas or
passions if you want emotion.

he was a fairy

>harmony = emotion
how is it living in the 19th century?

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I love Bach

Bach is OBVIOUSLY dead, there's no way I could even live that long

Beethoven wasn't even a good contrapuntalist. Dude is a fucking mem

He was just being humble

Maye you're trash. Did that possibility even crossyour mind?

Its a lot better. There aren't any traps for one thing

You'd be surprised user. Without harmony there is no emotion. Melodies alone usually imply harmony in order to create emotion. Harmony alone is emotion, it doesn't need melody to cause emotion. Melody just helps give you something to listen to.

I mean, feel free to choose another aspect of music that causes emotion - rhythm, timbre, dynamics perhaps?

Harmony is what creates emotional responses in a listener, tension, release, major, minor, augmented 6ths, suspensions, diminished 7ths, secondary dominants, etc. These are the corner stones of good harmony and good emotional impact.

You could learn to write like Bach if you study 18th century composition very carefully.

Take a graduate level music course and you'll figure it out.

listen i love harmony as much as the next guy but the guy iwas replying to was saying stuff like songs that use 1/100th of the harmony have 1/100th of the emotion which is just ridiculous. i know many very emotional recordings that are a vamp on one or two chords or something or just one key area the whole song. rhythm and timbre are often as important as the harmony and the performance is the number one factor.

talentless hacks general?

I think you want /kpop/, /metal/, /bleep/ or any of those other generals.

You absolute fool

m.youtube.com/watch?v=crQ8YEUkUjg
Glenn Goulds praise is accurate. Granted he was obsessed with him but still

>be me in high school
>be music nerd, take music theory classes, sing in choir, be in musicals, play piano
>find random violin piece somehow (youtube wasn't a thing at the time)
>show it to girl i had a crush on
>"yeah i like that one too"
>few weeks later
>she comes over to my house
>"hey, want to see something cool?"
>takes out her violin and plays that violin piece
>heart melts

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Fedora is people who listen to Beethoven because it's 'epic' and 'classy'. Bach is just for people who like music.

Brandenburg concertos
Well Tempered clavier
Mass in B Minor

this three are absolute essentials, i dont even understand why people are having a discussion about bach being "good or not",srsly you guys are all autistic asf.

>Most pop songs use 1/100th of the harmony Bach used,and thereby 1/100th of the emotion.

lmao

and the kicker is that Bach isn't NEARLY as complex as people on Sup Forums say he is

Eh I guess you're partially right. Pop music has 1/100th of the harmony and 1/50th of the emotion.

>grosse fugue
>that fugue in eroica
>late piano sonatas

nigga pls

The other way around. The things he did at THAT TIME are amazing. It's the same things kids do these days with their shitty guitars and "jazz chords lol" and they think they're impressive when Bach did it all hundreds of years ago. Also every big composer studied him, loved him and took from him.

sorry who are you?

>It's the same things kids do these days with their shitty guitars and "jazz chords lol"

fucking retard. there are many jazz artists, especially free jazz artists, who have far surpassed Bach's """"""""""""""""""""""""complexity"""""""""""""""""""""""""""".

sure, you could argue Bach wrote the framework for pop music, but not much else.

someone who's been studying music theory for six years now

>fucking retard. there are many jazz artists, especially free jazz artists, who have far surpassed Bach's """"""""""""""""""""""""complexity"""""""""""""""""""""""""""".
>sure, you could argue Bach wrote the framework for pop music, but not much else.
You truly are a fucking moron lmao. Not only did Bach foreshadow classicism and romanticism, his complexity (IN THE 18TH FUCKING CENTURY) was surpassed only after about 200 years... what took you so long kids :^)

>Bach isn't NEARLY as complex as people on Sup Forums say he is
They don't usually say he's complex, but that he is a master of counterpoint, harmony and form. You don't have to be complicated to write 10/10 music, in fact guy who do write max complexity tend to struggle to connect with listeners (Ferneyhough for example).

Bach's music is still more complex than any popular music and he does a lot of very clever things, 6 part fugues, invertible counterpoint at all the archaic intervals, and enough to keep academics writing for the next 100 years at least.

The more you study Bach's music, the more complex and multi-faceted you discover it is, I suspect you simply haven't looked very deeply at his music.

Here's some fun articles / books you can read if you want to look in-depth at a small portion of Bach's music:
diginole.lib.fsu.edu/islandora/object/fsu:176302/datastream/PDF/view
bachwelltemperedclavier.org/uploads/3/1/7/3/3173744/analysis_of_j.s.bachs_preludes__fugues_-_dr.h.riemann_-_1890.pdf

People who argue Bach isn't "complex" keep forgetting that he lived in the fucking 17th and 18th century. Judge him by that time frame, not something that happened 300 years later (which also built on the things that built on the things that built on him).

The only thing Bach isn't complex compared to is contemporary composers like Ferneyhough or Penderecki. Anything outside the contemporary classical world is generally child's play compared to Bach, save perhaps the odd hyper-complex jazz piece.

>master of counterpoint

many composers after him excelled much farther than him in counterpoint

>still more complex than any popular music

depends of if you consider jazz popular music or not

okay that's cool but music shouldn't be judged by when its made. "oh it was made a long time ago!!" isn't an excuse for not being good today.

>okay that's cool but music shouldn't be judged by when its made

Generally it should. Culture and time frame are to be understood or else you'll just keep doing anachronisms and you'll miss the whole point. Classical music however is mostly timeless either way, so Bach is still good today and harmonic advancements 250 years after his death don't disqualify that.

>"oh it was made a long time ago!!" isn't an excuse for not being good today.
And this isn't an excuse why it shouldn't be good today. Medieval sacred music is still good today etc. it's just not complex if you compare it with modern techniques, which you shouldn't do anyway because it's pointless. It's like comparing the first automobile or refrigerator with today's - of course it's shit if you compare it that way but it's essential because it was advanced and built upon and when it came out it was revolutionary.

this

how did he do it?
He was a virgin and most likely didn't watch any porn.

>and most likely didn't watch any porn
I'd say that's a certainty seeing as there were no devices for him to watch porn on.

You should try a different recording/interpreter if you think that's the case.

*rolls you over*