>not keith jarrett ok then t. David Foster Wallace
Nicholas Garcia
Suck my cock faggot
Tyler Wilson
>erroll garner >goat pianist As a classical pianist who has studied for over twenty years...
...I agree with you. :3
Benjamin Taylor
What's the best place to start if someone wants to self teach themselves piano causally? It's an at my own pace, in my free time kinda thing. I just don't know where to start
hot cross buns, then twinkle twinkle little star, then petzold’s minuet in G, then hungarian rhapsody no. 2
Levi Gomez
Unpopular opinions time. Post yours and discuss.
I'll start: Beethoven's 9th is overrated to the moon and back. Never got the hype at all.
Juan Rivera
tekashi 69 is good
Bentley Green
You shouldn't be recommending Petzold to a newcomer. Petzold is serious business.
Isaiah King
This is the most popular unpopular opinion I could think of.
Ryan Gutierrez
I listened to that minuet and it seems easy as fuck. Who's trolling who here?
James Ortiz
That's not Art Tatum or Bill Evans >Keith Jarrett Please neck yourself
Blake Harris
>bill evans I know you're just saying that because you don't get the chance to talk about Jazz enough to know how silly that sounds, but com'n mate
Bentley Baker
Schoenberg is good
Jackson Scott
>that OP yikes gonna let this one die
Justin Sullivan
I know this is wildly off topic and out of nowhere, but does anyone have any idea where I can find a recording of Ligeti's Rondeau - One-man theatre for an actor and tape (1976)?
Luis Bailey
>Schoenberg is good >unpopular opinion Really? Is this how low this board has stooped?
John Rivera
Late modernism and early postmodernism are the best period, period.
Joshua Price
>1800: Premiere of the First Symphony Beethoven defeats the celebrated Prussian piano virtuoso Daniel Steibelt in an improvisation contest at the palace of Prince Lobkowitz, and is never again asked to take part in an improvisation contest. His position as Vienna's greatest piano virtuoso is secure and remains unchallenged for the rest of his life.
Jaxson Richardson
The third and final round was the most important for testing the true genius of a performer. Each performer would sight-read a new piece written by the other performer. Steibelt went first, playing Beethoven’s brand new Piano Sonata in B Flat Major, Op. 22. He did well enough, garnering a good amount of applause after his improvisations. The Count claims to have seen Beethoven roll his eyes at the applause.Then Steinbelt tried to trip Beethoven up by giving him a new cello sonata, for cello and piano. This is a breach of the rules, technically, but Beethoven wasn’t about to win on a technicality. He took the score, turned it upside-down on the music rack, and sight-read it backward, then improvised on one of its themes for about 30 minutes.Steibelt was thoroughly destroyed, and didn’t wait for Beethoven to finish. He walked out and never met with Beethoven again.
Parker Lopez
I want to get into classical. Is this a good guide?
Anthony Green
There is no good guide
Gabriel King
>>>/jazz/
Benjamin Ward
It's an acceptable chart, but skip the Reich. No one ever needs to hear Reich in their lifetime, if they can help it
Zachary Davis
>not Oscar Peterson
Lucas Jones
pretty please
Oliver Murphy
Its an unopular opinion in general dummy
Cameron Nelson
literally no postmodern academic music is good. Postmodernism isn't a date, its a modality, an attitude and a bad one at that.
Benjamin Sullivan
Now THAT'S a shit opinion
Brody Torres
Give an example of a good postmodern work. I guarantee it will be shit or else not especially postmodern.
Zachary Nguyen
>tell me what you like so I can say that I don't, because that proves something somehow
Berio vs Xenakis vs Penderecki vs Gorecki vs Ligeti: WHO WINS
Sebastian Johnson
>tell me what you like so I can say that I don't, because that proves something somehow At least it was someone else fell for your cheap bait.
Ian Sanchez
It's basic and boring to listen to and play, but it's important in the development of classical music.
Jayden Ross
>postmodern academic music Those are polar opposites: Postmodernism as a movement was a reaction against the academic serialism of the early to mid 20th century.
Ethan Murphy
Most movements are reactions agains the previous status quo, that doesn't mean it's not still academic music.
Oliver Turner
It was actually me sameflagging. I run this general, kiddo.
Adam White
...
Sebastian Cooper
Gorecki immediately falls over because he has no legs - Berio stabs him. Xenakis is busy fooling with the UPIC and looking at books on architecture and is splashed with acid by Penderecki. Xenakis screams as his "good side" is now just as bad and then dies in agony. Berio and Ligeti get into a close quarters knife fight. Berio is wounded, but determined to kill ligeti so keeps coming Meanwhile Penderecki is rigging up an elaborate acid trap, with color coded strings and trip wires. Ligeti gets lucky and disembowels Berio - his guts spill everywhere and then Ligeti kicks the knife out of his hand and proceeds to choke him with his own intestines.
After finishing off Berio, Ligeti stands up to take in the situation. Behind a massive contraption stands Penderecki, silently watching. "Your opera was shitty" says Penderecki calmy Ligeti gets out a hair dryer, determined to dry his lips to a level that will cause critical hygroscopy and thereby suck the moisture out of the air, and perhaps even out of Penderecki's body should it come in contact with the negatively-moisture charged lips.
Ligeti, satisfied his weaponized lips are ready begins to approach the contraption, and in the center of it, Penderecki.
Ligeti deftly avoids the first few trip wires but suddenly the color-coding and need to repeat small aleatoric movements overwhelms him and he triggers the contraption. Acid splashes from multiple directions and Ligeti screams, gurgling as his windpipe dissolves. Penderecki silently watches, the image of Ligeti's contorting figure reflecting on his glasses.
Finally Ligeti is nothing but a steaming pile of goop and bones suspended in the color coded contraption. Penderecki walks away, humming a dissonant section of his requiem and spinning his cane.
Eli Fisher
10/10
Wyatt Jenkins
this perfectly summarizes the musical cene of the 1960s
Nicholas Walker
55-70 best scene
Benjamin Wood
you already said that, Soygrug
Nathaniel Sanders
No I didn't, but congrats on thinking of a witty and zany way of saying "soyboy", soyboy.
Owen Ross
thinking 55-70 was the high point in musical dvelopment is something of a perfect storm of stupidity and emasculation
Wyatt Roberts
Sure thing, boy-o-matic!
Eli Robinson
i started by listening to tonnes of stuff on youtube and hand picking all the stuff that really appealed to me and downloading it using youtube to mp3 sites
Tyler Lee
This. Youtube will basically do all the work if you start listening there
Nathaniel Rogers
How long have you been learning your instrument(s)/composition? I'm coming up to 10 years this May.
Aiden Roberts
Just started
I'm 25.
Adrian Torres
~19 years
Joseph Fisher
>got a guitare as a kid >im trash and never dedicated enough time to learn much >now as an adult with refined taste i just want to learn the cello or trombone anyway feels bad man, i wish i had talent, and money for instruments
Samuel Baker
this is a perfect depiction of what it feels like to start out on an instrument
Jack Wright
>really have to go to bed >cant top listening send help
Aiden Ross
watcha listenin' to anorino?
John Williams
a bunch of stuff i guess, im pretty new to the whole classical music thing but ive accumulated a hand picked playlist with hours of music now and im just becoming more and more addicted to it
Charles Thompson
just checked my stats today and have so far composed 1:11:29 of quite dense material.
Carson Ward
post some
Julian Bailey
all that matters is that you enjoy playing the instrument, at least if you are learning it as a hobby
William Nelson
Ay yo niggs I be learning classical music at a school for like 5-6 years and shieet and I dont even know the circle of fifths can someone explain to what I need to learn to write a full length symphony
Parker Martinez
>what I need to learn to write a full length symphony Pretty much everything about composition. Melody, harmony, form, counterpoint, orchestration, the works. expect to spend at least 10 years learning about composition before even starting the symphony, then expect it to take about a year to write
Anthony Clark
how
Elijah Mitchell
romantiscism is the most overrated time period and 90% of all symphonies are shit
Oliver Bell
i bought a 300€ cello from thomann, and have been playing for around a year now, go for it user :3
Justin Cook
First half of the 20th century mostly has great art music. It's more consistent and interesting than any of the periods before it.
Lucas Campbell
phd
Luke Cox
>not Jaki Byard
Benjamin Bennett
A symphony is a very complex musical form and you are still young. Perhaps you should start with something simpler, like a concerto
Brody Green
>Brendel Beethoven
why
Christopher Kelly
there's so much wrong with that chart lol.
>No JS Bach >3rd and 4th rate composers like Clements, reger, zemlinsky, Vanhal, Davies, Petrassi, in an "Abridged guide to the western canon" >Actual greats from the canon neglected: No Palestrina, Josquin, Schoenberg, Palestrina, Strauss, Mahler, Bartok, or any of the good mid-late 20th century composers.
The chart is simply mislabeled: It should be "CLTs music he chose to try to seem cool on /classical/"
Elijah Price
could be a troll chart
Brandon Howard
Nah he was pretty serious about defending it and updating it back when he still posted.
Some anons even edited it to include JS Bach after he left.
>I can't listen to the real thing after hearing this.. amazing
Chase Peterson
Why was Chopin such a FUCKING CHAD
Zachary Price
He's bland as fuck, holy shit.
I fell for the meme and bought pic related for 30€ without sampling it first. Let's hope it grows on me after a couple more listens. I miss Arrau, clicks and all.
Andrew Murphy
Brendel really is awful, don't force yourself.
Gabriel Jones
>bland >awful Expand.
Aiden Gonzalez
I never heard his Beethoven piano sonatas but his concertos are great.
