Sherlock

Thoughts on BBC's Sherlock Season 4?

Particularly episode 3 (or 4 if you count the Christmas Special), "The Final Problem."

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Who's the angel?

That would be little Eurus, portrayed by Indica Watson. Isn't she adorable?

Its fine if Women Kill - the episode

s4e3 was probably the worst thing I've ever seen on tv.
Sherlock was never good

No.

She's literally imprisoned in a mental facility for life.

Yeah but everyone forgives her and she's all buddy with Sherlock now

no, that was The Abominable Bride

she's perfect
10/10 would cuddle

Yeah, the same one she was imprisoned in before with the exact same security measures.
Good job Mycroft.

By "everyone" do you mean her family? Holmses usually don't attach to randoms but are surprisingly loyal to their family.

that's the thing with someone being severely mentally disturbed, they can't be accounted for their actions.

it's the biggest piece of shit I've seen for a while.

>muh super intelligence lol
>fuggin insufferable bitch + lol moryarty lol
>let's take these energetic characters and stick them in a mouse trap

Moffat finally did to sherlock what he did to DW

fugg him

Loads of build up to a huge Moriarty master plan reveal that turned out to be the single worst episode they've ever made. The finale was genuinely dull.

Did the 'Final Problem' have a Solution?

Hugs. Not even joking. She just needed a hug.

Yes, the final solution you might call it.

>naming your daughter after an Afghani marihuana type

A fictional version of this lovable little scamp:
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It's okay, user. You can type fuck on Sup Forums.

Oh yeah those deep family ties sherlock had with her, considering he never even fucking knew about her before the episode.

The strongest solution of all.

The Saw traps were pretty fun

Yuros actress is pretty qt desu

just to get this straight

Mycroft the high ranking MI6 officer is squeamish about killing people

Watson the ex soldier wouldnt kill someone who was working with and then released a psychotic killer

Shelock the uber brain memory specialist forgets he had a brother (and sister)

and Moriarty decided to begin fucking with sherlock because a chick in a box had a 5 minutes chat with him

way to shit up the entire series

I don't understand why so many people think redbeard was another holmes
they say his name is Trevor and he's his best friend
he's even a ginger - where did you get the idea that they were related?

>when you killed off your best character but still wanna keep using him

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>Mycroft the high ranking MI6 officer is squeamish about killing people


This is perfectly in line with Mycroft's character from the books. He won't deign to do things himself. In the books it meant that he had Sherlock bring him evidence collected at crime-scenes to figure things out with, because he won't go and do field-work himself. In the new incarnation he won't do field-work himself as in he won't go and kill people. He send others to do it.

>Watson the ex soldier wouldnt kill someone who was working with and then released a psychotic killer

This makes much less sense, but I'm guessing that they're going for "he did terrible shit in the war and now he can't bring himself to do so again or he'll end up killing himself" or some shit. Pretty shitty, however.

>Shelock the uber brain memory specialist forgets he had a brother (and sister)

He didn't have a brother. He had a best friend. And heavily repressed memories due to a childhood trauma is wholly realistic. It even explains his anti-social streak as a result of it.

>and Moriarty decided to begin fucking with sherlock because a chick in a box had a 5 minutes chat with him

No Moriarty was already fucking with him. That's how Eurus got interested in him. Still, that was the same boring "oh she's been around from the very start! :^)" bullshit that Moffat always pulls.

I wonder what the brother turned out to be after all this shit

because he was living with then is that isolated house in the middle of nowhere and the holmes family were retarded shut ins

but fair point ... the memory specialist just forgets his murdered best friend and the sister who killed him

Old or young?

So if Sherlock gave her a good dicking would she have chimped out? Thats what it sounded like she wanted from him...

My fav newspaper headline today: Sherlock season 4: Viewers declare finale 'incomprehensible bollocks' and a poor version of Black Mirror.

>he did terrible shit in the war and now he can't bring himself to do so again
except for that time he killed the cabbie, he was fine with that ;)

>No Moriarty was already fucking with him.
so this is after all that shit with the c4 and the swimming pool ? ... so the 5 minute chat was her convincing moriarty to make suicide part of the plan ??? oh and record a load of sound bites?

also when did Eurus lose her shit and hide in the burned up room ... it must have been after sherlock chose one of the three brothers ... weird fucking timing of that breakdown

No point in making sense of the finale. The writers want us to believe mind control is real and the sister is capable of mind controlling 100+ people at the same time.

...

thoughts on this hiney?

Is that a deleted scene?

You haven't watched it yet? It is in.

>that explosion
>timing the jump so the bitch below wouldn't blasted
>last scene shows the entire apartment intact with the floor intact and barely any damage to the apartment

what did British television mean by this?

>mfw the headphones on the cow-skull were even intact
>mfw they just needed some new wallpaper and furniture

They sure did need to wait for Hudson to move away.

You forgot.
Mind Control

This made no sense after watching the entire episode.

Is this our new cunnfyu?

yes

>This episode isn't exciting enough, what should we add?
>An explosion.
>Genius, let's just throw a grenade in there.

Meant to reply to
Why do villains try to kill the protagonist(s) before their master plan?

>Grenade arms in 3 seconds.
>Waits for it to arm itself.

They're just trying to keep her from having another chimpout.

>Sherlock Holmes
>aka muh epic deductions man
>constantly uses arguments like "on the balance of probability"
>muh deduction man's deductions are actually inductive and addictive reasoning, what amounts to lucky guesses
>Sherlock fans aka tumblr have never reasoned well in their lives so they actually believe much deductions man is believable

Tfw to smart for aherlock

tough guys don't look at explosions

*abductive

The same reason they abandon their master plan at the finale point and have a mental breakdown after planning it for 5 or more years.

thought you were describing the writers for a second there

Just finished watching the last episode, came straight here. It's fucking tripe.

more like
>the trailer doesn't over promise enough
the lines from the trailer were so out of place in all the dialog - it's disgusting

Her master plan was to have Sherlock coach her down, you numpty.

It was shit, but as a fan of the original stories I liked the final monologue by Mary.

It's over.

>season 3
>97%
All those critics can't possibly be avid tumblr posters, and literally no one else could think S3 was that good, so what gives?

yeah because of all the whiny cunts they're never going to renew for a 5th. damn shame.

oh well, the ending was actually quite good in my opinion. took a second watch to realize what the fuck they were going for but i got it.

>They work the mercenary, the autistic man

I have a new cunnyfu

>Season 3 - 97%

u wot

also The Lying Detective was top 3 of the series episode. Culverton Smith was fantastic.

For real the sexual tension between Sherlock and Eurus was ridiculous

...

if I pull those headphones out would he die?

Both

hahahaha

What a cool dude

This show is a cartoon.

Like 80% of that shit didn't happen

She had fuck all to do with what Moriarty did, she was an admirer because he was a master criminal himself, down with the kids and a total babe to boot

I was not paying attention at all toward the end. What ended up happening to magic mind control devil sister?

so watson had to saw off his foot to escape the well, right

like that was the answer to the riddle

I actually liked the second to last episode. the season final was the worst thing i've seen in ages. It's really obvious they decided to pander to the overweight tumblrinas with whacky fanfic-tier interactions between the characters and a female character so strong not even an avengers jail could hold her down.

I know it's trash but i can't stop watching.

Eurus: I have a master plan to finally break Sherlock!
Moriarty: Ah, wonderful! What's my part of the plan?
Eurus: Well first you, of your own accord, have to come up with a series of impossible mysteries for Sherlock to solve.
Moriarty: Okay...sounds like I'm doing a lot of the work...
Eurus: And then you have to let Sherlock outsmart you, and pretend to be so upset that you kill yourself.
Moriarty: So I pretend to kill myself?
Eurus: No, actually kill yourself.
Moriarty: So just...okay...once again, sounds like I'm doing a lot of the--
Eurus: Now, before you die, I need you to record some close-ups of yourself saying the following phrases...
She hands Moriarty a script which he leafs through
Moriarty: Most of this is train noises! Are you going to be doing ANY of the work?
Eurus: Oh of course! I'm going to dress up as Zoe Dechanel on a bus and seduce Watson.
Moriarty: Oh, that's clever! Wait, why?
Eurus: For...uh...to be a sort of mysterious and foreboding presence in Sherlock's life.
Moriarty: Right, in Sherlock's life. So why torture Watson?
Eurus: So I can shoot him.
Moriarty: Ah! Brilliant! Killing Watson will--
Eurus: No, no. Just with a tranquilizer gun.
Moriarty: But...why?
Eurus: To announce that I'm Sherlock's sister! And then he'll tell Sherlock!

Yep. Back to the cane again

Moriarty: So you're going to tell him you're Sherlock's sister and then shoot Watson...on the bus?
Eurus: Oh! No. I'm also going to pretend to be Watson's therapist, who will not be Zoe Dechanel.
Moriarty: So you can pointlessly shoot Watson with a tranq?
Eurus: Precisely! AND, to really be a nuisance, or something, I'm also going to pretend to be a girl that Sherlock will be investigating on an unrelated case that I'll have no idea he'll be investigating in 5 years because it would be literally impossible for me to anticipate that. But rest assured I'll dress up as someone related to some case, and that someone will leave Sherlock a note with "Miss me?" written in invisible ink!
Moriarty: Miss me...that's on the script you handed me.
Eurus: Exactly! I'm going to play a video of you saying "Miss me?" to Sherlock so he thinks you're still alive!
Moriarty: But I won't be...Ohhhh! So we're going to set up an elaborate mystery before I die so that it will appear to Sherlock that I've set it up after my death! He'll think I'm still alive, and it'll drive him craz--
Eurus: Right, right, but no. No, there won't be an elaborate mystery under your guise. Just little notes that say "Miss me?" Because in actuality it'll be me he's missed! Not you! Then once I've revealed myself as his sister, I'll make him go through a gauntlet of deduction! And thennn use those fun train sounds which you're going to record for dramatic effect!
Moriarty: But then...excuse me, madam, why do you need me for your plot at all?
Eurus: To confuse the audience!

>she is so smart can program people against their will just by talking to them even if they are aware of it

Its like Moffat read that Sup Forums post about how Sherlock is written by stupid people to whom smart people are magic and thought "YES! Smart people are indeed magic"

>rotten tomatoes
When a 100% means it's a movie full of niggers a 75% is probably the best score to be honest

Tbf this actually is known to happen with certain prisoners

In some cases certain very clever and charismatic prisoners have notes on their files which label them as a danger due to having effects on their guards, and they have to limit all time spent with them. They're commonly associated with terror groups, and they're quite rare, but they do happen.

Moffat just chose to ignore that he could've based the plot in reality and wasted Sherlock's own sister as a cartoon character instead.

Moriarty: Why do any of this?
Eurus: ;)

Manipulation is one thing. Mind controlling an entire secret maximum security facility to do your bidding is just cartoon nonsense.

>tfw this post seems pretty plausible compared to last nights ep

>Mark Gatiss, who also co-wrote the episode, proposed to conclude “the story we’ve been telling from the beginning.”

Isn't it obvious? The whole story was about Sherlocks secret sister we just revealed last episode

>The dullest solution of all

And writing her as charismatic and having a real political philosophy to convince people of like real world terror and cult leaders would be too hard so they just have her be le ebin brain hacker.

That's what I meant by that last sentence.

Moffat gave Eurus no significant interaction, except as Faith, which should've been a huge red flag to him, so there was no way to show some kind of charismatic effect, and then he chose to write himself fully into the ditch by explicitly using words like reprogramming and enslavement

Her name is spelt Eurus in the subs.

It's a shame because with good writing you can totally pull this off. Doesn't even need to be political or philosophical, but giving her proper dialogue with other characters and a bit of charisma would've made her a great villain

Cabbie was a bad guy, prison overseer was just brainwashed.

This concept would actually make a cool standalone show.

So... why did Eurus break out prison and put on a bunch of disguises?

We already know how. She used he mind control powers to gain control over everybody in the prison allowing her access in and out. It's makes no sense but that's the answer.

But WHY did she do all the rest of her Roger the Alien disguises?

Dressing up as a girl on the bus and flirty texting with Watson. Just to fuck with his marriage? Why would she care?

Why dress up as the daughter of a serial killer and get Sherlock involved in that case? And get chips with him?

Why pretend to be Johns therapist and listen to him pour his heart out and then reveal your identity and then tranquilize him and then do nothing to him and return to your fake imprisonment?

Mark Gattiss: Oh, go put some warm paste in your mouth

Sheeeit, guess it's 2 smort 4 me

I guess that's kinda what The Following was about, but that was verging on this where his philosophy is dude its edgy and badass to kill people lmao, at least the actor was actually charismatic and you could see him attracting shitheads though.

She was exceptionally lonely. That's how I took the Faith scene. She missed Sherlock, she genuinely just wanted to spend some time with him.

As for the Watson thing, to me it came across as her not being possessive of Sherlock. She wanted to see who he spent so much of his time with. Since John put a stop to it there's only so much to say about that, but since she chose to then reintroduce herself as his therapist, I think she obviously has some interest in John, but probably due to his association with her non-asshole brother. She is obviously mentally unstable and doesn't know how to have a proper relationship with Sherlock.

As for anything in episode 3, that was just Moffat being a faggot and not bothering to flesh out a major character and relationship in Sherlock's life.

As someone who did not hate season 3, and somewhat enjoyed episode 2 of this season. How was this finale so fucking bad? The power levels of Sherlock and his sister break any sense of realism that season 1 and 2 had

I had to force myself to finish the episode

>tfw ywn be patrician enough to understand Gatiss' creative genius

Eh there is plenty wrong with this story but half the stuff you wrote is easily explained in the story.

>Dressing up as a girl on the bus and flirty texting with Watson. Just to fuck with his marriage? Why would she care?

Because Watson is Sherlock's best friend and a parallel for the kid she killed because Sherlock got friendly with him and ignored her.

>Why dress up as the daughter of a serial killer and get Sherlock involved in that case? And get chips with him?
To find out how Sherlock has grown up and what he is like after all these years.

>Why pretend to be Johns therapist and listen to him pour his heart out and then reveal your identity and then tranquilize him and then do nothing to him and return to your fake imprisonment?
To get to know Watson more. And the tranq part is to bring herself to Sherlock's attention by threatening his best friend.

The rest of the episode however is pure nonsense.

it really is like DBZ where IQs are like power levels and they keep raising them absurdly until the antagonist is basically God

this episode was just Zero Time Dilemma in TV form

complete with MIND HACKS

>her not being possessive of Sherlock
I mean "her being possessive of Sherlock"