He is 500% correct. What you're gonna do, call me gramps? >anyone who doesn't like this ear rape is gramps, it's so modern!
Nathaniel Fisher
>No Satie or Pärt. they're not background music, as it stands today. the real background music turned out to be firetruckery of all sorts. Wagna, Rach, that kind of bleugh
Dominic Jones
>grug no understand harmony! >:(
Jordan Moore
haha GRAMPS got eeeeeeeeeem
Wyatt Hall
heh, the French were light-years ahead in the late 19th, speaking of harmony
Sebastian Brooks
Is Debussy recommendable here or just a meme?
Isaac Brown
Umm no gramps, most of that 12 tone stuff is gramps music, it's about as modern as the gramaphone.
Adrian Nguyen
debussy was the supreme arch-devil of harmony, people with severe wagneritis here are just unable to admit it
Angel Foster
That's not bad seeing how uneventful the last 30 years have been for classical music.
Blake Rogers
I say it because that's the argument 90% of the time. If you're not sure what I mean just picture someone whose every answer fills you with disgust. Now you know how it is to talk with someone who thinks you should drop Brahms and listen to Schoenberg.
Jaxson Smith
He is the reason why I understood why the French are known as sissies.
Kayden Watson
it's funny how english-speaking world has this prejudice whereas in reality its culture is largely based on the French culture, and France was worshipped by them from the day one. Eternal anglos, what else to say.
William Morgan
I don't like anglos, and I don't dislike the French. But their pop culture is sissy. I look up to the chad french countrysider
Jose Perez
all pop culture sucks but French city culture of the last century was undeniably the best there ever was
Justin Reyes
Fuck no, city culture is trash, even more so a culture where cunts like Sartre are on the spotlight.
Connor Moore
the more you listen to Russian music the more you realize what absolute thieves the French were
David Sullivan
*block your path*
Aaron Stewart
questiopn for the Sup Forumstards itt if tonal music is so great and atonality is shit then why does no one care about it and why do all contemporary tonal works sound absolutely cringe?
Bentley Adams
>why I understood why Oh you are just terrible with words, hahaha btfo.
(adjective) "with" (noun) is the plebeian's prepositional arrangement of choice.
Hunter Evans
>that post congratulations, you btfo youraelfd
Jaxon Richardson
rekt
Asher Watson
W-Why?
William Martinez
at your service bud
Christopher Gonzalez
Why, because you said so? Anyway, I was using a common expression, except I made a quite remarkable alteration in replacing "bad" with "terrible." Kek.
Xavier Young
>I made a quite you have to go back, pedro
Dominic Johnson
Alright, I’m looking for something a bit specific so I have doubts that it even exists. Does anyone know of a book that describes the various contexts, musical effects, and techniques of the more common instruments of the classical repertoire. For instance, in a section devoted to the piano, it might discuss the different ways to play staccato and legato, different pedaling techniques and there effects, when those techniques would be employed in good taste, etc. Mostly I just want to increase my awareness of these sorts of things, I’m not an aspiring composer or anything.
if you have access to an academic network you will find that almost every doctoral piano performance student writes a document of the description you gave since they often have to write a dissertation in addition to their performance requirements. The only thing is that in all likelihood these will deal with specific segments of the repertoire. There is probably no comprehensive guide on such a thing, but you can accomplish the same thing by just reading several such theses that pertain to your interests.
Christian Murphy
But I only started six months ago.
Jaxon Johnson
Ok thank you. Will JSTOR suffice?
Jonathan Morris
I'm not sure. The dissertations are published by the universities themselves so I don't know if that's included in JSTOR's archives. Maybe someone else can answer that. These types of writings aren't often published in academic journals anymore.
Owen Morales
It was already too late years ago
Ryder Howard
t. bitter pissant
Jason Morales
btfomg
Hunter Smith
I figured you would say something like that. But this isn't my first instrument, and I only wish to be able to play for myself and my family. Now please stop being so bitter, like the other user said. Ok.
Bentley Young
He's probably talking before WW2
Alexander Evans
*before the French Revolution
Joseph James
But that would make the Russians thieves as well since they stole their Orchestration and Harmony from a Frenchman
Jackson Peterson
I'd agree with that as well, but La Belle Epoque was the last great time for Paris, and the only city that rivaled it was her German brother city Vienna
David Williams
GENERIC PIECE NAMES (CONSOLIDATED TO ENGLISH BUT APPLICABLE TO THEIR ORIGINAL LANGUAGES) >GOD TIER Toccata Poem >GOOD TIER Intermezzo Cappriccio Nocturne Arabesque Scherzo >OK TIER Rhapsody Prelude Etude >BAD TIER Image Fantasy Romance Serenade >TRASH TIER Piece Impromptu Song Without Words All one hit wonders (Gymnopedies, Ogives, the list goes on….)
Jaxon Powell
Lmao what a shit list
Isaac Mitchell
>No "fugue"
what are you, down-syndromed?
John Anderson
A fantasy and an impromptu are the same thing dumbass
So Chopin's Fantaisie-Impromptu is redundantly named? I don't think so nigger.
Leo Butler
So what you're saying is you don't even understand what he's saying? Fugues, motets, and sarabandes refer to specific music compositions. His list is in regards to interchangable titles that composers use somewhat arbitrarily. Jesus, this board.
Ryan Morris
Anyone know some recordings of instrumental renaissance? Im talking about stuff like palestrina and morales played on piano or string quartet or a small chamber ensemble instead of voices.
Joshua Morris
giorgio mainerio and michael praetorius
Isaac Morgan
>he >his
pfft
Jacob Nguyen
It doesn't take a genius to figure that out my man.
Evan Bennett
It takes a genius like me to see through wanton samefaggotry
Matthew Jenkins
Music is organised sound. So twelve tone is definitely music. :^)
Austin Richardson
>fantasy >bad
Lmao you're shit. But I agree poems are god tier.
Alexander Gonzalez
>Music is organized sound. hello r*ddit
John Lewis
I'd love to hear a better definition from you. ;) Go ahead, I'll wait.
Jacob Hughes
>music: it sounds good
Robert Hall
structured sonorities
Justin Peterson
But what is good, user? Isn't good just a matter of taste and the culture in which you were raised? :) Whether you realise it or not, your preconception for quality in music is somehow moulded.
Parker Cook
the etymology for art in every language that i know of has connotations with "beauty"
Saint-Saëns: carnival of the animals - the aquarium
Landon Powell
thanks
Nathaniel Morales
>Fuck no, city culture is trash What the fuck are you all doing in classical general then, assclowns? Go back to herding your cows - and don't you show up gain, unless your master tells you to.
Brayden Lee
you are from now on not allowed to post in this thread anymore. what the fuck is your problem? Do you even know that piece that say 'Chopin' in the title, isn't by Chopin? it's some shit, poppy movie soundtrack that actual composers would have been able to pull out of their ass from their 2nd life-year, but they wouldn't cause it's inciting Yann Tiersen tier crap. And in know you're thinking it now user, "but i just wanted to post Yann Tiersen, he helps me with my math homework". Do not do it. Before you post in /classical/ again, dig a deep further into this genre than typing 'Chopin' in youtube, and watching two related video's
Jacob White
Heck yes this just came through the mail
Landon Carter
Overtone series doesn't make Schubert enjoyable for Africans, sorry. Music is subjective.
Landon Bennett
>doesn't make Schubert enjoyable for Africans Why do you think Schubert is not enjoyable for Africans? I'm absolutely sure a lot of African people appreciate Schubert.
Gabriel Miller
debussy & co. did to russian harmony what schoenberg & co. did to german harmony,
Ethan Roberts
>Music is subjective
Subjective =/= abstract.
Wyatt James
There were experiments done in some Central African country where they rounded up the most "beautiful" sounding chamber music compositions and played them to some people. They had no reaction or just left after hearing Schubert. Who would've thought our sense of beauty is not the same to other people right?
Jack Williams
Sounds like a pile of shit. Show me these experiments, I bet on anything that any minimally cultured and smart person will enjoy Schubert. >Who would've thought our sense of beauty is not the same to other people right? Go find some construction worker yobs ang make them listen to Schubert, they'll walk away in a second, you biblically massive fucking idiot.
Jason Williams
lol chill dude I think I read it in some ethnomusicology book and on the net, probably by Timothy Rice.
>I bet on anything that any minimally cultured and smart person will enjoy Schubert What is this, the 17th century? Different cultures interpret beauty in different ways, including which intervals sound "beautiful" etc.
>Go find some construction worker yobs ang make them listen to Schubert, they'll walk away in a second, you biblically massive fucking idiot. You just proved my point? Calm down lmao retard
Chase Gray
There were experiments done in some Central African country where they rounded up the most "logical" math papers and gave them to some people. They had no reaction or just left after reading Terence Tao. Who would've thought our sense of logic is not the same to other people right?
>ethnomusicology top kek, we almost took you seriously
This isn't actually classical music related but this is the only non-brainlet thread so I'll ask
I'm trying to name a chord, it's a D# dim7 with a G on top, and an online chord guide said I could write D#6b5#9, but it's there a better way to write it?
Here's the chord (G major key signature, bottom two clefs are bass, top is treble)
Brayden Bailey
This is bullshit. You round up a bunch of average people in Germany in this way (people of whom we can be almost certain they will be in absolute terms more intelligent than those Africans) and I guarantee that they will not appreciate the music much more than their southern friends. If anything, they may be slightly more used to the music by sheer circumstance of living in Germany, or simply pretend they enjoy or understand it, but I guarantee that as soon as they leave the room they will be back blasting Schlagers and rap that they listen to daily. Classical music requires accommodating in times where even people in the West are only accustomed to much simpler music.
