Pink Floyd - The Wall

What's your opinion on this album? Personally, I love it!

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filler fest. would be a great EP if he gather the 6 only good songs of that garbage.

personally i think pink floyd has turned into a band for alternative high schoolers like radiohead

It's good

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it's a solid album with the film included but not their best

But what does that have to do with what you think about The Wall?

Wall is decent musically. The lyrics are amazing if you're in 9th grade, but kind of off-putting when you get older. "Now that's what I call edgy" in album form. Best track is probably Comfortably Numb or Another Brick In The Wall part 1

I disagree. It's basically about a guy who disconnects from society, and becomes an edgelord (for lack of a better term). Because the main character is so edgy, it's hard for the lyrics not to be (for example, In The Flesh ["live" version] and Waiting for the Worms). One of Waters's most obvious messages, put simply, is that this disconnection is bad, and will ultimately lead to emotional breakdown if you don't change your ways. Waters himself isn't being edgy, he's being in character. The lyrics aren't being edgy for the sake of being edgy, they're edgy because they're about someone edgy, which is acceptable in my eyes.

"Just because I let gay men put their dicks in my butt doesn't make me gay. I'm just in-character, that's all!"

Its okay. Comfortably Numb is by far the best track.

One of my all time favorites. I'm a huge mark for Pink Floyd. Lot of good points in the thread, though.

You're not entirely wrong. But you've got to be honest, it'd be hard to write a concept album without any kind of filler

Yes and no. They do have an edgy 'alternative-hipster' teen audience, but then those kids usually cycle through a few other "favorite" bands, and eventually come back to the realization that PF is unironically the GOAT

I think the music from the film is way better than the actual album. Much heavier and more intense. They fully recorded the album something like 3 or 4 times.
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It is a bit "my daddy died in the war"-esque, but it still is sonically and thematically interesting,yeah?


Also, I'm covering The Wall in it's entirety. Playing nearly every instrument myself on every song. The project is about 85-90% finished.
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Hopefully I can change the mind of anyone who doesn't like The Wall

So are actors gay if they play the role of a gay man in some production? And if so, how would someone musically portray an edgy character such as Pink without becoming "edgy by association", so to speak?
>nice strawman

thats not how you use the meme arrows

" Roger Waters is a narcissistic, overrated, self-indulgent hack. He has the lyrical depth of LiveJournal poetry, no musical chops to speak of, and alienated literally everyone who ever worked with him. He somehow convinced himself he was successful in spite of the bandmates that contained his overwrought, faux-pretentious horseshit, and turned Pink Floyd into a vehicle to make cringe-inducing, off-brand Andrew Lloyd Webber-style "rock operas".

His post-Floyd works have the subtlety and smug self-satisfaction of an older, ponytailed uncle lecturing kids about Ronald Reagan and corporations while adjusting his socks and sandals. The sonic aesthetics skew toward "terrible" and "dated".

The only people who find The Wall or The Final Cut deep are moody teenagers that are so terminally uncool that they lack the capacity to find a better band to be obsessed with. The only people who like his solo albums have voted for Ralph Nader in the last 8 presidential elections and wipe their ass with hemp toilet paper. "

if you play a gay man in a hardcore porno, then yes, you're gay. The Wall is the hardcore porno version of Edgy

Sonically and thematically interesting -- yes, definitely. It's not considered one of the top 100 albums of all time for no reason. I especially like the vocals where they sing "Against... The... Wall!" Those vocals sound like something the Beatles would sing, but instead of being about love or whatever, they're about mass murder

hey now....frig off, barb

You're right though on a few counts. However, Rog was both a competent lyricist and bassist. Listen to Animals for his finest (and most frantic) bass work.

As for the "best of" his lyrics, those are more in snippets, sprinkled throughout his songs. He can't really write lyrics that are 10/10 the whole way through. It's usually one pretty brilliant snippet of words that (when in context) are worth mulling over for any music listener and pseudo-intellectual.

Also, Andrew Lloyd is the shit, and so are rock operas. Quit being a little elitist bitch. What about Operation: Mindcrime? If you think that album sucks, then you're too gay to reason with, m9

Lastly, his solo works don't age well, but they remain a good snapshot of the time they were recorded in. A lot of trite filler, but some genuinely good songs in his solo catalogue as well. Quit being such a bummer, yo.

Loved it when I was 14 - goat level, would play it 3-4 times a week. Grew out of it before I hit 16. After 18, embarassed to recall liking it so much.

It's shit, except for the Gimour collaborations (Comfortably Numb, Young Lust).

Waters has gotten consistently shittier after this album - the unpredicted success of DSOTM seems to have put him in fairy land for the rest of his life.

I liked all the choral bits on the album. It was initially going to be a Beach Boys reunion of sorts. But they backed out, and PF got two Swedish dudes or something. But you can tell they're trying their damnedest to sound like Brian and the gang.

It's good. I personally like their older stuff though

First album I ever loved. Made me love depressing and heavy music. The main riff, when it comes in all heavy and slow in The Trial, was a precursor of my late love of doom.

The live version is better

Everything after Wish You Were Here is just inferior. The Wall and Animals are all pseudointellectual Reddit shit and anything after them isn't even worth discussing.

Animals is the better album, though that Roger Waters Tour was probably the best night of my life.

Nah it's shit

The more subtle and sombre moments are great.
The melodramatic bullshit isn't though and there are a lot of over-the-top spots in otherwise fine songs that feel completely unnecessary (fuck that solo on The Thin Ice in particular). The album feels padded beyond just interludes. Oh well, at least The Trial is fun.

A Saucerful of Secrets >>>> Some daddy-issue wall

>(fuck that solo on The Thin Ice in particular).
Go fuck yourself with pogo-stick.

Never understood why folks here don't like it. I've read all the arguments a thousand times before but I find it hard to believe people actually have those opinions after listening to the album.

Some criticism is valid but I mostly always see people complaining about reddit (?) and angsty teens. So mostly hating something because it's popular.

Just look at any popular album you consider good, most people will shit on it here.

IT SUCKS!

it's one of their best imo, second only to animals. it's very underrated on Sup Forums

>roger waters having the emotional wit of a 13-year-old boy writing breakup poetry means you hate something because it's popular
>the album being more filler than actual thought-out songs means hating something because it's popular
>disliking cheesy bombast attempting to hide piss-poor barebones pop songwriting means you hate something because it's popular
You're delusional if you think this. People straight up tell you what's wrong with it and you forget everything right after you finish reading.

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this

great record but not their best.

this is the only acceptable opinion
but the real patrician taste is the live version from the title song

>mfw the drums part mid track

What does one say in way of introduction to what is perhaps one of the finest and most popular albums in rock music. After we begin with the bombast rock of "In the Flesh?", The Wall story begins when Pink goes through a traumatic childhood of losing his father in war ("The Thin Ice" and "Another Brick in the Wall (pt.1)"), cruel sarcastic teachers ("The Happiest Days of Our Lives", the chart-topping single "Another Brick in the Wall (pt.2)"), an overbearing mother ("Mother"), problems with adolescence ("Goodbye Blue Sky") problems with success ("Empty Spaces"), relationship troubles ("Young Lust" (wife leaves him), "One of My Turns" (snapping when the groupie comes in room and many other problems (like the wife beating in "Don't Leave Me Now") one goes through before walling himself off from the rest of the world ("Another Brick in the Wall (pt. 3)" and "Goodbye Cruel World").
The second disc starts with Pink walled off from society (starting with the classic "Hey You" and "Is There Anybody Out There?") then ponders his life in a hotel room ("Nobody Home") and thinks back to his father's death ("Vera" and "Bring the Boys Back Home"). The highlight of the album is "Comfortably Numb" which tells the tale of Pink being confronted by a doctor to take something before he could go on with the show. The song was first intended for David Gilmour's 1978 solo debut but was thankfully left off and saved for The Wall. The track is a classic and is always in the Top 10 greatest rock song/guitar solo polls! The track "The Show Must Go On" is Pink being led to the show and then as a fascist dictator Pink is performing like a madman as depicted in "In the Flesh", "Run Like Hell" and "Waiting For the Worms" before having his own trial ("Stop" and "The Trial") and is ordered to knock down his wall to start life fresh ("Outside the Wall").

Brilliant album, but Dark Side of The Moon is still their opus magnum

>1hr35min
>filler fest

What are they filling? It's a two part album, they're not crunching for more content, otherwise the could have kept it at an hour. Its a concept album and all of that "filler" is part of the story they're trying to tell.

Or they just don’t agree? Ya’ll act like there is only one right opinion and that’s just ridiculous. Your arguments don’t mean shit if people read them and actively dissagree with them lol.

Shit idea by the vampire named Roger Waters, only slightly decent cause he sucked off Gilmour's talent as well. Not nearly as good as Saucerful of Secrets or Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and also worse than most of the Non-Syd era