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What happened?

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The worst writing in a high-budget motion picture.

Zach Snyder

>plebs belief this

Kal-El is sent to Earth, Zod is sent to prison, Krypton blows up, Zod escapes, Kal-El is on fire, Kal-El finds out about his origins, Lois Lane finds out about Kal-El, Pa Kent dies in a tornedo, Zod finds Kal-El is on Earth, Zod comes to Earth and threatens to destroy it if Kal-El doesn't show up, Kal-El shows up and meets with Zod, Zod wants codex to rebuild Krypton, Kal-El refuses cooperation, Zod goes after Kal-El's ship, Zod doesn't find codex, Zod threatens Martha, Kal-El punches him hard, Faora punches Kal-El, Kal-El punches Faora, Kryptonians start feeling dizzy, military shows up, Kryptonians run away, Zod finds out codex is in Kal-El's DNA, Zod starts terraforming Earth, Kal-El stops one machine, military stops another, other Kryptonians go back to Phantom Zone, Zod remains on Earth, Zod swears to kill all humans, Kal-El fights him, Zod is about to kill people, Kal-El breaks his neck, Kal-El screams, Kal-El hugs Lois Lane, militar officer thinks Superman is kinda hot, Clark Kent starts working at Daily Planet

>tfw I watched it only twice over 3 years ago and still remember everything

how can the MCU even compete?

It's a meme that this movie is bad in any way, right? This is one of the better superhero movies.

>It's a meme that this movie is good in any way, right? This is one of the worst superhero movies.

Needed more quips and maybe a dance-off at the end.

superman is unlikable and not heroic

>most tense scene when Superman breaks Zod's neck and screams NOOOOOOOO
>followed by "lol fuck the US General" "hihi I think he's kinda hot"

It's just like Marvel, but pretending to be serious

why do the perpendicular light rays form a crucifix?
S = savior?

I don't know, everything about Marvel is molded by consumerism, and not towards any higher artistic goal. I just saw Avenger 3 yesterday, what a snooze.

>muh 3.6 GPA negro

My only complaint about the movie desu.

Jesus symbolism is common in western media.

Yeah, Bible should be required reading, biblical allusions are practically in any major work of Western literature or films. It's a shame Creationists have become the poster boy for any serious religious teachings in public schools.

They hired a hack instead of someone who could do Superman justice.

>muh character

you watched capeshit

>This is one of the better superhero movies.

Yes friend, I go to Superman movies to see Superman, not some vague approximation done by a dude who doesn't even understand the character.

Why even make the fucking movie if it wasn't going to feature Superman? It didn't even need to be an adaptation from the comics, there's tons of animated shows that do Superman justice that he could've gotten ideas from.

Zack's a hack.

So I'm a big fan of Superman as a character, and the thing that's always brought up about Superman is that he's a person. He's relatable in a way that, for instance, Batman isn't. He's not a rich, torturous psychopath who takes at-risk youths under his wing to fight crime and die.

To take a line from BvS, Superman is "just a guy who's trying to do the right thing."

And so "just a guy" faced with unlimited power and the responsibility of the world on his shoulders wouldn't be all happy-smiles all the time. He would get disillusioned, he would have his faith in humanity challenged. He wouldn't be Christopher Reeves' Superman all the time. Sometimes he would get mad, as he did in Morrison's Action Comics, or All-Star Superman. Sometimes he would do a necessary evil in a difficult situation - i.e. killing Zod in Man of Steel.

And this is important: he would have his altruism challenged by people all the time. That's what BvS is about in large part, by the way. Basically every character in the film is constantly attacking him or belittling him, saying he can't actually be a good guy. Turns out he is. He really is as good as he's made out to be.

Anyway, that to me is a much more inspiring, relatable, compelling character than a Superman who's all smiles all the time, never gets mad, never does a bad thing even if it might be necessary to avert the destruction of humanity, regardless of the circumstances he's in.

To me, as a real fan of the character who reads Superman comics all the time, the Superman presented in Man of Steel and BvS is one of the best versions of the character ever written. And I assume Justice League will allow him, after facing the trials and tribulations any good hero has to go through, be a little closer to the go-lucky, man-of-smiles version of the character from the Donner films.

>It's a meme that this movie is bad in any way, right? This is one of the better superhero movies.

Reminder that if you don't like Snyder, MoS and BvS you need to fuck off back to [r]eddit

Snyder is and always will be /ourguy/

its def in my top 10 capeshit

Nobody's reading your pasta faggot.

I agree, Superman was humanized in this aspect. It's very difficult to empathize with Superman if done wrong. After all, what human can relate to a man who is basically indestructible. Snyder gave him the emotional weight necessary for him to become human. The Christopher Reeves, all smiles Superman isn't a character for the times we're in either, so it was a good artistic choice.

Nice pasta.

The problem here is that Superman in the DCEU is this gloomy, wishy-washy, self-pitying piece of shit who either stands by and let shit happen (Pa Kent's death), he forgets his own powers (Not locating Ma Kent's heartbeat), or he does everything in the worst way possible (threatening a psychopath after destroying his ride).

It's frustrating knowing what Superman is capable of yet seeing him act like such a bitch throughout the DCEU for no apparent reason besides the plot. I'd even go as far as saying that if Superman was as proactive as he was in the comics, cartoons, video games, etc. that the movie would've been about 30-45 minutes shorter.

>A talentless hack who is all about style over substance

Yep. That's /ourguy/ alright.

He can lift the weights but he can't lift the public opinion on his shitty movies.

...

you have to go back

>hurr durr everyone who disagrees with me is reddit boogeyman

Superman always had emotional weight to carry due to being so much stronger than the world around him.

It's what the "world of cardboard" speech was all about, him admitting to Darkseid that he's always had to be careful not to lose control, lest he break something or someone.

Of course, Snyder would rather indulge in his destruction porn and have Superman blow up Smallville and half of Metropolis because CRAWLING IN MY SKIN!!!!!!!

He was actually a well rounded character and not a bland perma smile all american hero

>If I keep saying reddit maybe they're go away.

>CRAWLING IN MY SKIN!!!!!!!
YAASSSSS I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE XD

sorry i triggered you by calling you what you are

get the fuck out

>Shit they didn't leave, better call them triggered.
Pretty sad desu.

I don't read comics, but if they are as I remember, they are written like garbage what

>hurr durr better double down on calling them reddit because I'm looking stupid

stop filibustering, tourists

>I don't read comics
Stopped reading right here

Better written than anything Hack Snyder has produce on his own.

>Talentless
How is he not talented? The beginning of Watchmen is enough to cement him as talented.

>hurr durr muh reddit isn't work better calling them tourists hurr

Don't you have anything better to do?

The newness is showing. Please stop your setting a bad example for Reddit

Didn't Watchmen flop? Also, Watchmen was a straight adaptation, if anything you should be giving props to Alan Moore, not this hack.

You're proving my point, reading a medium for children has caused intellectual retardation. No wonder you can't appreciate when Snyder elevates the comic book medium to art.

>Better call him reddit again, maybe he'll be too fixated on tourist to notice.

>hurr durr I'm getting so flustered I'm fucking up my diction

the fact that your response to someone saying Watchmen is good is to talk about the box office is telling

your leddit is showing

>calls other intellectually retarded
>thinks Snyder's movies are deep

>Didn't Watchmen flop
No.
>Also, Watchmen was a straight adaptation, if anything you should be giving props to Alan Moore, not this hack.
Yeah, fuck directing. Fuck the actors too. Oh, and fuck the prop artists. It's all Alan Moore. Huhuhuh.

When a chimp paints with his own feces, they call THAT art too.
Maybe it should have focused less on art and more on being a good movie?

why are capeshit threads always populated with faggots who bump their own threads?

Watchmen lost money. It made roughly it's production budget in box office.

What does it say about you when you take an adaptation from a "medium for children" seriously?

>doesn't like armond white
>defines art by the actions of chimpanzees

youtu.be/7p5-14rjWUM?t=31m44s

>No
Oh come on, box office is a poor gauge on whether a film is good or not but you have to admit it fucking flopped big time. Grossed 55m more than its 130m budget.

>Maybe it should have focused less on art and more on being a good movie?

Reddit's takeover of Sup Forums summed up in one sentence, everybody.

>muh two posters is one person boogeyman

Literally nothing, that's not even an argument concerning the qualities of this movie.

I'm just saying, if Snyder was a good director then why are most of his movies critical and/or financial failures? Even M. Night has made a better movie than Snyder recently.
Well yeah, if Alan Moore didn't exist then neither would Watchmen. Also, the directing is what fucked this movie up the most.

It kinda ruins the feel that the original comics were going for when you have ordinary people taking out large groups of dudes like they're auditioning for the Matrix or some shit.

>be adult
>have autism
>shitpost taiwanese fingerpainting forum about characters made for kids

I was addressing two posters in one post; efficiency

Stop shilling your stupid video in every thread. Come up with your own arguments.

So movie's should be more "art" based than have pleb things like good writing?

People don't go see Die Hard 4 to get Akira Kurosawa's "Dreams".
They certainly don't go to Superman movies for Passion of the Superchrist featuring Goyer's hamfisted dialogue.

The unintentional hilarity of the DCEU needs to stop.

>I'm just saying, if Snyder was a good director then why are most of his movies critical and/or financial failures?

Are you serious? Because general audiences are retards, especially when it comes to superheroes.

Seriously, are you new?

>So movie's should be more "art" based than have pleb things like good writing?

Those things aren't mutually exclusive in Man of Steel.

Actually it says that you're a pompous snob who won't let himself enjoy shit because of what faceless strangers might say about you.

Newsflash kid: nobody gives a shit if you read comics or not and even if they do, why should you care? If you're willing to post essays on why MoS and BvS are actually "kino" without cringing I don't see why you can't just read the stories that inspired the aborted plot lines seen in the movies proper.

>So movie's should be more "art" based than have pleb things like good writing?

Nobody goes to see superhero films expecting art, they expect entertainment.

I could film a fruit bowl and uploaded to youtube under the premise of art but I wouldn't expect it to reach "most views" anytime soon.

Do any of my posts suggest I care what you (or any other user) think about me?

You're a pleb, plain and simple, because you can't think of a Superman movie outside of your constricted matrices of the character.

Apparently Snyder's blue-washed cinematography is his fetish or something.

Good writing is an art, user.

>Nobody goes to see superhero films expecting art, they expect entertainment.

okay, i get it, it's snyder's fault GA and critics are plebians. i see.

Has anyone refuted his points? People are somehow super offended by this superman movie so surely some angry comic fan should've refuted his points by now.

>blue-washed cinematography

Those images look like my wife after an argument.

90% black and blue

no, nobody has ever refuted anything in that video. which is why i keep posting it, because it addresses a lot of these plebs complaints and they can't argue with it without going "m-m-m-m-m-uh subtlety!"

did anyone else notice the Lexcorp semi driving past their house in one of the flashbacks?

>utside of your constricted matrices of the character.
But user, the tortured rageguy who wanders as a drifter, feels forever apart from society, fights the US military, who Smashes all of his enemies when he's enraged or his girlfriend is threatened....
That character already exists.

>MoS had good writing
Wew lad.

Pa Kent's death for the sake of death.
Destruction porn with no consequences.
Superman undoubtedly murders people as a result of this CGI action sequence.
Superman gets bullied then destroys a man's truck as a result.
Nobody notices, hears or speaks of this.
Zod and friends adapt to earth in one day.
Somehow Zod and friends have full power despite such a relatively brief exposure time to the yellow sun.
Zod has no reason to genocide humans. He needs to terraform the earth not destroy humanity.
The main characters just happen to be at the final fight in Metropolis.

>inb4 explaining away with headcanon

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Snyder#Films
So to recap, the only original film that Zack Snyder ever directed was a critical and commercial failure that did everything in its power to pander to the lowest common denominator.

Yet DCucks are still going to claim that he's a good director even though the only thing he has made are adaptations of better source material.

Nobody is wasting their time on videos. Use your own argument. There's a bunch of videos criticizing the movie. Can we just link those instead? No. Learn how to have a discussion, child.

"What if Superman were Jesus and also the Hulk?" a Zack Snyder joint.

>Do any of my posts suggest I care what you (or any other user) think about me?
Besides the fact that you're responding and trying to convince me that you, like, really don't care about what I think?

Seriously user, you're so transparent. You'll learn after high school that nobody gives a shit about what you do in the privacy of your home.

youtu.be/7p5-14rjWUM?t=31m44s

Cape-kino happened

No, it's Snyder's fault that the DCEU is a fucking joke. The man has no idea how to pace a long-running cinematic universe and it baffles me how DC/WB is just letting him do this to their brand.

Cool, that doesn't suddenly make the movie good.

Such kino, I might sit down and watch it again. Batman v Superman was probably the most I enjoyed a major studio picture all year.

But I don't empathize with that character cause it's bland film making.

>Destruction porn with no consequences

Are you seriously so plebeian? Batman v Superman has him dealing with his actions. Are you seriously so infantile that you can't see death, even if it is only implied in a film? The stakes are high, and you know it in Snyder's films.

Why is most of this shit orange-and-blue?

Am I watching Superman or a Bourne Supremacy poster?

you're obviously very mad somebody did something intelligent with your action figures, sorry i should've been more sensitive

no, the movie was already good, and that video is one of many explaining why

i'm liking you a lot

>the consequences are in the next movie!
That doesn't excuse the writing in the first, and I'm pretty sure those consequences were only addressed after the tremendous criticism it generated from even the most pleb of audiences.

You can't analyze a movie over text, child. Give it a chance instead of nodding along to the outrage hivemind, child. Don't pretend you don't have the time to half watch the video when you're arguing on tv all night, child.

Please, after the courthouse blew up, it's never brought up again. I doubt anyone is going to bring it up after Superman comes back either.

Also, how high can the stakes be when Snyder established that nobody important is going to die and stay dead?