What kind of shitshow was the empire running?
This guy voices a reasonable complaint, Vader hasn't found the plans yet (which ultimately ends up with the death star destroyed and everyone in the room BUT Vader dying) yet all Vader can do is choke him to shut him up.
He was being a little bitch
stop being such a pussy, all he did was choke him a bit.
might sound extreme to you or i but in context it's literally nothing. these dudes probably have a jolly time blowing rebel scum out of air locks. who cares?
It makes it easier when you imagine prequels Annakin reacting to the Officer's complaint as Vader
>might sound extreme to you or i but in context it's literally nothing. these dudes probably have a jolly time blowing rebel scum out of air locks. who cares?
My point isn't that it was 'cruel'. My point is that Vader doesn't actually address his point.
It's like if you're doing shit at work and you just punch your boss in the face as an explanation, but the boss above your boss let's you off.
I want an image where Not_An_Argument.jpg man gets choked by Vader, or is doing the choking, or whatever. Molymemes are great.
>Dismisses the Jedi as a myth
>Death Star works off of crystals they literally stole from an old Jedi temple
What did he mean by this?
the galaxy is huge no everyone must know about jedis.
and my point is that it's hardly cruel at all in context. every man in that room probably had innocent blood on their hands. they've probably seen officers killed for their failures or even simple missteps.
the world they live in is harsh, they probably pray every night that a simple little choke is the worst they get.
>It's like if you're doing shit at work and you just punch your boss in the face as an explanation
what does your job in the real world have to do with a fictional intergalactic power hunger empire lead by a couple of evil wizards?
actually the guy he was talking to at the start survived, and ended up getting a promotion afterward
>look it up
>it's true
Christ, does everyone in that room have a name and a huge backstory?
Part of me thinks it's cool that it's fleshed out to such an extent, but it does seem excessive.
Nigga it's a fucking autocracy. All authority flows from the Emperor and Vader is his right hand man. That guy was being an uppity shit because Tarkin's authority on the Death Star was absolute, even Vader had to listen to him. So this little cunt thought that just because his boss was holding Vader's leash for the moment he could mouth off all he wanted. He thought fucking wrong.
i guess the ultimate question is why are you trying to rationalize vader's actions in this moment? this scene was about showing us how evil he was. you're not supposed to understand or sympathize with him.
why did stalin throw so many people in a gulag?
they weren't gonna throw themselves in, stalin probably thought. but someone like you has to ask "but y tho"?
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>Vader and Stalin are just evil for fun.
>no real motive besides OMG EVIL LOL
didn't say it was just for fun.
in both cases it was for power.
unlimited power
>motive doesn't matter bc they just evil
>killing random people beneath is how you secure power
>no way that you're gonna inspire a rebellion beneath your feet with this behavior.
Why are you under the delusion that Vader is answerable to some random fuck face? Vader can kill pretty much anyone in the empire with total impunity. He would have faced absolutely no recriminations or fallout for murdering that guy. He only stopped cause Tarkin told him to, and the Emperor put Tarkin in charge on the Death Star so to disobey him would be disobeying the Emperor. And you'll note that Tarkin still waited like 10 seconds before stopping Vader, meaning he was willing to let Vader drive home his point that you don't get to talk shit to him just cause your boss is in charge here. He just didn't want to lose a high ranking staff member over petty bullshit.
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makes you realize that the script writers for RO must have viewed RO then NH and then wrote in some reshoots to make things mesh reasonably well
I always got the impression Vader existed outside the heirarchy, not above it. He didn't answer to that imperial officer, but I never thought he held much direct authority until Empire Strikes Back, since loads of personnel died on the Death Star.
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Vader wanted it to fail as part of his ploy to usurp the Emperor
>I always got the impression Vader existed outside the heirarchy, not above it.
That means effectively the same thing. He's the Emperor's right hand man. He's not officially part of the imperial military yet at the same time if he gives you an order you can be sure he has the Emperor's blessing and you'd better do what the fuck he tells you to. Vader has whatever authority is necessary for him to carry out his orders. On the Death Star, he was subordinated to Tarkin because the Emperor wanted him in charge. But he's still Darth fucking Vader, the Emperor's own hand of death and destruction.
Who was in the wrong here?
The emperor is the only one with any real authority. The imperial military has its own system of ranks and so forth, but the Emperor exists entirely above that and he can command anyone and everyone in whatever way he wishes. Darth Vader is like his personal assistant. He doesn't hold any rank or station but if the Emperor puts him in charge who is going to dare countermand that order?
So is Vader sort of royalty?