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Who was in the wrong here?

Neelix never sang 90s pop songs about smoking weed in Palestine

It's obvious.

Why didnt Neelix just get over it that Vulcans don't emote

It was very intolerant of him to constantly give Tuvok shit about it

Did he go piss off Vorick too, or just the black Vulcan

Just finished this series, and good god was it bad.

Go away Chuck.

>Mr. Neelix, I do not wish to celebrate Yule

Daily reminder that Captain Janeway is a cold blooded murderer.

nah, Tuvix is a little shit
2 real lives > 1 accident
there's no dilemma

>Brings two men back to life
-1 murders.

Tuvok and Neelix were struck by an act of God. Unlucky, but people die all the time from unlucky breaks. Killing Tuvix was an act of commission of depriving a living being of life, and act that required willfully interrupting the natural course of events. It's simple causality: Tuvix and Neelix we're transmuted, and Tuvix was born. Intervening to reverse this was a deliberate interference in the outcome: a choice, not a happenstance.

We have ironclad proof that Janeway committed a wrong and crossed a boundary that she herself would recognize as a wrong. In an earlier incident, a Viidian steals Neelix's lungs and implants them in himself. Neelix is kept alive for a short time but will surely die without them. When the thief is later captured and informed that to save Neelix by giving him back his own lungs the thief took would result in the death of the thief who had transplanted them in himself, she refuses to kill a sentient person to save the life of another, a person who himself was even guilty of intended murder as opposed to being a completely innocent byproduct of an act of God like Tuvix. As established by her recognition of actions and boundaries, killing another living being to save another was indisputably wrong.

>Tuvix is a little shit

There's no denying that Tuvix was uncharismatic, but here we have another damnation, the idea that it is justifiable to transgress against an uncharismatic individual and that popularity confers rights not given to the unpopular. This separation of rights between the liked and the unliked has no basis in any ethical jurisprudence.

Janeway is guilty of murder. She killed another living individual to save her friend. She knew her actions were wrong. I advise this court to strip her of her commission and all commendations and to sentence her to spend the remainder of her life in a Federation penal colony, and to bring charges against the crew under her command who turned a blind eye to this malfeasance.

Tuvok was a psychopath and spent the entire series constraining his murderous desire and inclination toward unethical acts. Neelix, sensing Tuvoks vile being, was constantly pitting himself against the Vulcan to get him to drop the facade and reveal to all his true nature. Their entire relationship is a relentless psychological battle.

Top five characters. GO!

Spock
Data
EMH
Phlox
Porthos

Tuvix was in the wrong

>ds9

not even once.
kys fags.

Janeway is aware of Tuvok's nature ever since the incident where he sought to violate the prime directive by stealing advanced technology from the Sikarians. If Section 31 had an operative aboard it would be Tuvok. She is also aware of Neelix's nature, that Neelix would sacrifice himself for any member of the crew. Tuvix expressing his desire to live reveals to her that the Tuvok side of the joined being has prevailed, and that Tuvix, unchecked by Neelix's constant monitoring and being a more capable operative, represents a profound danger to the crew that must be stopped at the ultimate cost, that of her own values and integrity toward the respect and preservation of life.

Kirk
Bones
Picard
Data
Worf

Picard
Worf
Q
Garak
Ransom

Spock
Data
EMH
Weyoun
Garak

>Janeway is aware of Tuvok's nature ever since the incident where he sought to violate the prime directive by stealing advanced technology from the Sikarians. If Section 31 had an operative aboard it would be Tuvok. She is also aware of Neelix's nature, that Neelix would sacrifice himself for any member of the crew. Tuvix expressing his desire to live reveals to her that the Tuvok side of the joined being has prevailed, and that Tuvix, unchecked by Neelix's constant monitoring and being a more capable operative, represents a profound danger to the crew that must be stopped at the ultimate cost, that of her own values and integrity toward the respect and preservation of life.

I have never come close to reaching the depths of the Trek rabbit hole as this man I've quoted has.

I wonder if that day will come...

Data
Picard
Gul Dukat
Tripp
Sloan

>TNG O'Brien: Forced to clean up holodeck emissions every day when he's not sitting in the little transporter room by himself for 12 hours

>DS9 O'Brien: Fucks Cardassian bitches left and right, kills brown people with his buddy Bashir at the Alamo, makes his cunty wife take care of their kid while he chills all day

Is anyone else able to uncuck themselves like O'Brien?

that fucking toy gun

>Tuvok and Neelix were struck by an act of God. Unlucky, but people die all the time from unlucky breaks. Killing Tuvix was an act of commission of depriving a living being of life, and act that required willfully interrupting the natural course of events. It's simple causality: Tuvix and Neelix we're transmuted, and Tuvix was born. Intervening to reverse this was a deliberate interference in the outcome: a choice, not a happenstance.
>
>We have ironclad proof that Janeway committed a wrong and crossed a boundary that she herself would recognize as a wrong. In an earlier incident, a Viidian steals Neelix's lungs and implants them in himself. Neelix is kept alive for a short time but will surely die without them. When the thief is later captured and informed that to save Neelix by giving him back his own lungs the thief took would result in the death of the thief who had transplanted them in himself, she refuses to kill a sentient person to save the life of another, a person who himself was even guilty of intended murder as opposed to being a completely innocent byproduct of an act of God like Tuvix. As established by her recognition of actions and boundaries, killing another living being to save another was indisputably wrong.

Janeway is without question a murderer but that she uses her standards in an almost bipolar manner, not even rooted in Starfleet, seems to be the bigger issue with me. Hypocrite as well, per your Vidiian example.

All that said, I still would prefer Tuvok and Neelix to Tuvix simply for my entertainment but obviously the man deserved life and Jane'sway is the Onlyway so fuck morality and ethics which is for Christfags, not this tugboat of masochism.

Tuvix needed to die, it was a freak

A FREAK

when did they change the uniforms from coloured torsos and black shoulders to black torsos and coloured shoulders? was there a production reason for this? also what about those purple ones

Intimating that Miles "Russet" O'Brien wasn't living post-Cuck lifestyle.
>tell the barkeep ta FAK AHFF!
>head upstairs as Falcon
>leave with the most headshots
>get plastered off some scotch from the highlands
>tell the barkeep ta FAK AHFF!
>head to Bashir's to dress up as a Starfleet officer so you can LARP all day as a non-commissioned officer on a Cardie station which you "hate" because of all the fertile Cardie scientists coming through

/ourmick/?

>recently started watching VOY for the first time
>get to this episode
>what the fuck am I watching
>it's actually quite decent

How would YOU fix Voyager, Sup Forums?

>hard mode: working within the limits of the network/syndication model of the time, so long-running storylines are hard to pull off

...

THE TRAITOR WAS MICHAEL JONAS!
>ships opens up a magical green vortex to deposit Michael's body
Love VOYager.

Janeway
Neelix
Archers dog
Tuvok
That Vulcan bitch from enterprise

True. She was at least moderately consistent for the first season or so, but the writing just gets ridiuclous.

I blame the writers more than Janeway, but w/e.

>dat filename

Annorax
John Frederick Paxton
Weyoun
Sloan
Captain Jellico