Come to foreign lands

>Come to foreign lands
>Start converting the populace to foreign religion
>Stir up trouble
>Government puts that shit down and protects their ethnic religion, land and people
>Somehow they are bad

lmao

(((Christianity))) was a mistake. It's nothing but trash

Mashallah, brothers.

>starts a thread just to show off he didn't get the movie
wew lad

What is this meme that if you refuse Christianity you must be a filthy Muslim?

Yea, not respecting your people's choice in religion because its new and scary is generally considered bad by most civilized modern cultures.

when watching all I could think of is Scorsese was illustrating the fate of Christians in the middle east.

DUDE WESTERN IMPERIALISM PROPAGANDA LMAO

You're right, you're probably a kike.

>he thinks the gov't was bad/wrong

Watch it again.

Is Garfield going bald?

>come to foreign lands
>out of the kindness of your heart teach the savage natives the ways of the one and only God in order to save them from eternal damnation
>this is somehow a bad thing

What movie is this.

Karate Kid 4

I actually unironically agree with OP. The Japanese have an obligation defend their culture and heritage and knew exactly what the spread of a foreign religion within their own borders was going to lead to.

I mean, look at what's happening to Europe right now. The entire continent won't be recognizable in 50 years time.

Silence

Sup Forums

your analogy is weak

Europe's situation is due to mass Immigration.

Japan's was due to people exercising their own conscience. Adopting something to give their lives meaning because is was pure shit under the Shogunate.

>implying they are shown as bad in that regard
They're only depicted as bad for killing and torturing people; not for their attempting to stop the religion and keep their native culture.

Im struggling to believe there were so many covert Christians living in the same Japanese village. Feels like it was blown way out of proportion for the sake of the movie.

Either way the Samurai inquisitor guys literally did nothing wrong

there were hundreds of thousands, if not milions, christians in nippon prior the 1614.

ITT: Weaboos defend literally anything disgusting Japanese monsters do just because they like anime.

I've seen you weaboo faggots denying all their war crimes in China too.

Christians lived in the same villages because the missionaries only were able to get to certain ones.

prior to the ban, christianity was allowed for like 70 years. Christianity has also an high appeal for the lowest social class.

Reminder islam and Christianity worship the same god and follow the same Testament.

>come to foreign land
>start telling people my version of hundreds of gods is right but yours is wrong and you'll burn for eternity if you don't do what I say
>and the proof is this thing someone wrote
>get kicked out

>what is freedom of religion

killing and torturing people is how you stop the spread of foreign religions.

If we killed every single muslim then we never have to worry about islam, 'radical' or otherwise.

it's not a meme, just one faggot trying to force a meme

it's the movies intention that you perceive the inquisitor as bad one only 2h into the movie. It's (the movies) main intention was that the missionaries acted in self purpose. They sacrifieced hundreds of peasants for their own martyrdom. They were selfish and that's what neeson and garfields character were about, how they realised that they only brought death and despair for a selfish cause.

that's wrong user. Killing only creates martyr idols. That's why the japs intentaionally didn't kill garfields character.

>Screener comes out
>Suddenly discussions about the film

fuck you neets, this is a epic 2 hour 45 minutes long film, it's worth to watch propely in a cinema

also, it's a Scorsese film, he doens't release films every year

>religion of "peace"
>literally come to another country and incite rebellion causing death of hundreds of thousands

>film has a complex, layered message
>user applies his disney tier narrative understanding to it

Explain further.

>The Japanese have an obligation defend their culture and heritage
By torturing and executing anyone suspected of holding a different religious faith from the ruling class?

>paying to watch what you can see at home for free
You're a sucker.

Japan isn't overrun by cultural enrichment. Wish we'd learned from them.

Yeah he's bald at the end of the film

>watching kino on your tiny PC monitor or your TV

You pay for the quality. Big screen and quality sound.

fuck you NEET

no, by preventing the catholic church (a foreign power) from gaining a foothold in japan

torturing and killing peasants isn't a good thing but it's hard to think of a better way of preventing the spread of an idea. besides, it ultimately did work

Reminder that Andrew Garfield and Liam Neeson's character are not brave or heroic or compassionate, they are traitors to Jesus and his followers

Oh cool I'm also looking forward to all the "weeaboos" and don't actually know shit about Japanese history to blatantly hate this movie

Jesus literally tells them to do what they did though.

How do you know it wasn't the devil tempting him to apostasy?

>DUDE WESTERN IMPERIALISM PROPAGANDA LMAO

Would you prefer living in a west controlled by its indigenous populations?

Indians running the USA?
Aborigines running Australia?
Inuits running Canada?
Red heads running the UK?

it may have worked but the country remained stagnant for 200 years

>he thinks it was Jesus

LMAO, I bet you didn't even read the book

Satan told the same thing to Jesus in the desert or on the cross

And look at it now.

all religion is fucking cancer

die because you believe in different "god"
kill yourself and you will be with your god you retarded sheep

it's ironic your parents said the same thing about you

Why do you hate God, user? Did your uncle diddle you?

and as soon as it was forced to accept influence (colonisation, if we're honest) from europe, japan went from that stagnation and isolation to a european-esque fascistic colonial totalitarianism that invaded and occupied its neighbouring countries, slaughtering tens of millions and committing some of the worst atrocities in recent history

i dont hate god

i hate the people who still believes in this bullshit

>i hate the people who still believes in this bullshit
are you twelve? It doesn't matter in what you believe as long as you don't force your views upon others. You're part of the selfrighteous asshole group.

You hate God, otherwise you wouldn't deny Him. We all know God is real, user. Even inanimate objects sing the praise of His name, ALLAH

inshallah

i'ts my opinion, no one forced me

>no one forced me
tha'ts not what i ment.

>i hate the people who still believes in this bullshit
this just implies that you're an arrogant selfrighteous prick with an infantil view of the world. You're not as half as smart as you think. I'm an atheist by the way, but it's obnoxious when halfwits like you spout shit like that. You're as tolerant as the people you hate.

Funny how the Ming didn't need to torture or crucify a single person when they decided to get rid of their missionaries. But hey, it was the only way right?

stagnant economy, horrible birthrate and 18 hours workday for the herbivore males?

literally this
that was the entire point of the film
Sup Forums was a mistake

On their way to extinction due to their inability to make kids?

no they don't, mohamed Al mohamed. islam is a religion that was molded to look like christianity for forced conversion purposes by mohamed from the bedouin paganist relgions of the time.

I'm no fedora tipper but perhaps in the end it was best Japan and most of east asia didn't become christans. Seeing how cucked Christian countries became. Also I believe Buddhism needs a chance to thrive.

Buddhists don't want no Muslims in their countries.

L O L
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Islam is Abrahamic u retard, same god

Then they are the smart ones.

>Seeing how cucked Christian countries became
Sup Forums history strikes again
All the so-called "cucked" countries you're thinking about have been gradually more and more secularized for nearly a century.
And Japan, Korea and China got huge amounts of Christians in them.
Provide an example outside of a few Burmese mememonks.

>Using my post for your thread

:3

>Sup Forums history
Tumblr history strikes again. Christianity was what influenced these dumb actions and now even the pope is supporting the cucked actions.

>Provide an example outside of a few Burmese mememonks.
It doesn't work like that, user.

how about now?

False.

Only humans are protected under a war crimes tribunal.

But Sweden is one of the most atheistic countries there is.

>Christian monks smuggled silk worm eggs out of China ruining its silk monopoly with it

I'd have missionaries executed on sight desu.

Top smug

The U.S. without immigration?

It is not molded to look like Christianity, it does not try. It is molded around the Old Testament and the Koran is just a rerun of the Old Testament. It's a true Abrahamic religion, which true christians would follow.

If you want proof read the Koran.

>christians : love eachother and turn the other cheek

>muslims: spread lies, conquer, kill, maim and rape everyone different than you

sure sounds like the same god you fucking turkshit

Destroying China is the most noble goal one can have.

China did a good job of preventing the spread of Christianity, they kicked out all the foreigners who came and said out good is better

They should have accepted Christianity, it would have made their country better

God had his revenge when he sent the chosen people, Americans, to BTFO Tokugawa's. The icing on the cake is when Japs cucked themselves so hard to please their foreign masters that they started persecuting Buddhists as bad as they did with the Christians.

Deus Vult.

Jesus fucking christ
Sup Forums is full of muslims
It all makes sense now

>China did a good job of preventing the spread of Christianity
Because the Taiping and Boxer rebellions went so well for them

>Never bothered to convert people to Judaism
>Devote all efforts to scholarly and financial pursuits instead

Really makes you think.

Bingo my dude. Watched last night was kino.

>they never addressed that one of the main reasons the Catholics were spreading Christianity in Japan was because they realized that unlike countries in the new world it would be extremely hard to just send in the Conquistadors and overwhelm the local governments because they were an actual disciplined and well-armed people who'd be able to resist so they sent missionaries to divide the people into groups of Christians and the enemy heretics
>they never address that because of the cultural differences in the value of life it was much easier for Japanese to become martyrs
>not addressing how it's a popular thing in religions for people who martyr themselves being depicted as the more devout and better person and how that has been used to justify horrible horrible actions by Christians, Buddhists and Muslims
>all the torture scenes lack the ferocity and grit of Scorsese's earlier movies so only impact people who have never in their life seen brutality

Yeah, and then some looney who thought he was Jesus's brother ripped the country apart for years.

In the end isn't that what governments use missionaries for? They conquer the populace, the populace is left without any food, stability, etc. Missionaries come under the pretense of salvation and food and money. Meanwhile they are pacifying the defeated populace by turning them to religion and mitigating any possible revolts and uprisings against the new invaders

it's called abrahamism there isnt any difference except from the fact they all think theyre unique snowflakes who are suffering

that's bullshit though, there wasn't a major mission to Japan on anything like the scale of South America or even China and all the European powers wanted was to open Japan to trade since the Dutch made a fortune from silk and other japanese goods.

your fan fiction is just as bad, abdul

>nothing but trash
this is very true. only a christian would be happy to travel to israel, for instance, and serve jewish interests on a jewish settlement by working a farm for free and feel privileged for the opportunity. it's a religion of betas and cucks

How do you know Christianity is the true religion?

Alright folks, here's a brief lesson on Jap History. The Portuguese made contact with the Japs in the mid-late Warring States period, where it was just a bunch of local warlords fighting each other for land. The Jesuits had great knowledge of shipbuilding, science, etc but most importantly they came with the arquebus, an early gunpowder weapon. The jesuits used this technology to get in favor with the warlords, who after conversion would force their people to convert. This lasted about 70 years until Hideyoshi had essentially consolidated control over Japan. At this point, further contact between the Jesuits and warlords was against his interests, as it could empower potential opponents. Because of this and the Shimabara rebellion, led by Christians, Hideyoshi began to persecute the religion.

It's not about Japan defending their culture or religion from the west. It was about ensuring the stability of a newly united state. Hideyoshi didn't care about what Christianity espoused.

>>Start converting the populace to foreign religion
>>Stir up trouble
>>Government puts that shit down and protects their ethnic religion, land and people
>>Somehow they are bad

Where do you think Liberals learned this mentality?

Muslims

>Where do you think Liberals learned this mentality?
>Muslims

Yup.

We see this shit all the time in the USA.

Muslims fucking come to 'Merica. Bomb a gay night club.

Obama spends days lecturing white people on why white people caused this poor muslim to bomb people.