Is this a foul? or is it an unfortunate play?

is this a foul? or is it an unfortunate play?

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ayy caramba

butcher like all argies, foul

Won the ball mate

barely touched him

Yellow card for the player in green-white

looks like a dive from the left player. normal behavior in a duel here, i would agree with and

In soccer, it's foul.

According to some people here it's a painless diving simulation: Yellow card for the guy with the broken leg.

just making a nosegrind with the rival's leg

>Forcing himself under the foot of a man

Deserves a yellow for blatant simulation

>Yellow card for the guy with the broken leg

>how would you like your ACL senpai?

Just a scratch

>this flag
>this topic

Clear dive from the Sporting CP player

Fair challenge, keep playing

some spray on that and he's good to go

Isn't u r gay the country that does murderball the most?

I am not that urubru, but we do not see ourselves as murderball, we think we play hard but with loyalty.
We usually see the rest of southamericans (minus paraguay) as full of pussies that think they play tiki taka and complain about strong football but they usually do very disloyal fouls with injury intensions, foul less but foul with malice.

Not a foul, pretty fair play.

Urgayvscostarica.webm

an uruguayan player literally bit an opponent
>loyalty
die already

where is the ball?

mycket bra

absolutely fair challenge, Banfield player is just a pussy
I bet he also dived in order to stop the play, get some treatment and waste time

This guy in the back

Forlan my man

>we think we play hard but with loyalty.

>we do not see ourselves as murderball, we think we play hard but with loyalty.

that's hilarious

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jesus fucking christ you spics are subhuman as fuck

get the fuck off the internet already

Bssed cachabacha

>australian
>bragging about being intelligent
select an option

>He's a good boy, he was going for the ball, there was no malice involved

>He's not that kind of player

loling @ your lack of loyalty

this guy was right. We play with a tough but fair iron fist and only start being malicious when we're losing at big stances

>start being malicious when we're losing at big stances
stopt reeding fookin there

>fair

el australiANO señores JAJAJAJAJJA

>we think we play hard but with loyalty.

Honest question: when (or why) did Argentine football decline? Three straight finals, several managers, and the team still looks like shit out there. Without Messi to "resolve" games, this team looks awful. What happened?

You just said it. It's 100% Messi.

when Missi started playing for the NT

After Germany WC 2006, and when Bielsa's ""football"" school started (with obviously Bielsa choking hard in 2002). Also, our league got really weak after Boca's golden era, Sabella was like a lake in the middle of the desert.

who /loyal/ here?

central american countries play dirtier than uruguay desu

>our league got really weak after Boca's golden era
I think this is what it comes down to. I didn't mention the league in my question but it's the answer I would have proposed.

Every other S.A. league has experienced a similar decline for obvious (economic) reasons, yet most the NT's have improved their performance. There is something unique about the Argentine case, however. As much as I hate romanticizing the issue, I think it might have quite a bit to do with the so-called "amor a la camiseta" that this team lacks. So I ask, anons , is the answer, once again, Messi?

que?

Post-2007 finals when Riquelme left the team and we started believing in >muh mistica and doing whatever with the managers.

Argentina always goes for the intention of injuring players and breaking legs then they play the
>b-but we joga buunito como brasiu guys
Which by the way also injure players

20 years ago this was normal, nowadays it's just being an asshole

You can't say that was on purpose, colombian touches the ball right when he was about to kick it.

This one is on purpose.

most loyal foul ever

why exactly is uruguay a separate country? they were la plata too, the speak spanish and are chistian
what makes them different than argentina? is it the fact that they were invaded by brazil or were they already different before?

AFAIK it was convenient for both Brazil and Argentina to have an independent state there back from when they had acrimonious relations, and so Uruguay was born'd. I don't know if 'buffer state' is the right word for it.

paraguay too?

I am and no we don't see ourselves as "loyal" or whatever. We just see that everyone else plays murderball but pretend they don't, Chileans have always been known butchers but they pretend they're not.

Did you know we won the Fair Play award in the last 2 copa americas or something like that?

which is nothing compared to standing over someone's leg or punching them in the face like Messi has done several times in Barcelona.

We're not christian, we separated church and state over 100 years algo and nowadays nobody goes to church or cares about god. And we were a different region from Buenos Aires so we never liked them in the first place.

I think Paraguay was different - it used to have a huge population (relative to how it is now) and their leaders thought it was a good idea to get into a war with Argentina, Brazil, and Uruguay at the same time. It lost land to both Argentina and Brazil as well as losing 70% of its adult male population as war dead. So Paraguay used to be "big" but took on a war it could not handle.

>different region from Buenos Aire
argentina is not pampas
>we separated church and state
like every christian nation
>nowadays nobody goes to church
again like every christian nation

now whats the diference?

spain fuck it up there for good
they even try to rule the place from peru

I seem to remember Peru still being under Spanish control for a while longer despite being on the wrong side of the continent.

spanish didn't let crioles (spaniards born in america) to marry spaniards and be part of the colonial goberments
borbons were so fucking stupid, we could have a kind of panhispanic union or a comonwealth now

>like every christian nation
Pretty sure nobody else has that over here.
>again like every christian nation
But people here do not believe, of course there are believers but they're in the minority.

We were created by freemasons too so we can't be a chistian nation.

The principles of our education are
Secular, Free and obligatory(in that order)

Oh and
>Argentina is not pampas
We tried to take Entre Rios with us but we didn't manage. Porteños don't get treated well here but the people from the provinces have the benefit of a second doubt.

so being atheist is the difference with argentina? aren't they mostly socialists?

>We
Go suck a dick.

nope, >our lack of belief is the same
he just wants to be different, but we really aren't

We're not a buffer state because to this day Brazil and Argentina still touch each other. The eternal anglo just didn't want a country with 2 big ports to the atlantic and the people here liked neither brazilians(it was common to call them macacos) or Buenos Aires because they wanted to centralize everything there and Rosas betrayed us.

I didn't say we were different because of religion, I just told you we weren't religious because you said we were.

>And we were a different region from Buenos Aires so we never liked them in the first place
so like the rest of the provinces. Even until the 1860s argentina wasnt united.
uruguayans are more similar to most argentinians (of the central provinces) than someone from formosa, jujuy or chubut is

webm?

The border between Brazil and Argentina used to be a lot smaller, Misiones (highlighted in red) was annexed by Argentina from Paraguay later in the 19th century and suddenly Argentina's border penetrated right into Brazil. Otherwise before that happened there was a much smaller border between them (Paraguay also used to take up a lot of space between Argentina and Brazil.)

So before Misiones was annexed, it was useful for both Argentina and Brazil to have a large section of land that neither one of them controlled, leading to Uruguay.

Argies were more busy stealing land from Chile than fighting brazil

Inaccurate, this was the conflict between them that led to Uruguay's formation. As you can see, they were contentious rivals in South America from the early days of independent states in the continent.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisplatine_War

Not sure from that screenshot alone, need VAR to confirm my decision.

>Rosas betrayed us.
explain please I like this things

>between them
Because they were our allies to take banda oriental back from brazil.

Bong user is right, our glorious Mariscal Lopez fucked us for good with that 'Napoleon y Arbitro de America' bullshit he tried to pull. Funny thing is, after the Triple Alliance War, Paraguay did actually become a buffer state between Argies and Hues, because none of them want to take care of the mess the country was after the war.

It's in our declaration of independence that we want to be back united with the rest of the provinces, but the eternal anglo and imperial BR didn't want a single state controlling the Rio de la Plata estuary so they pushed for an independent country
also we had our political differences with Buenos Aires

the fucking anglo wtf was he doing down there he doesn't even have a colony in south america other than guayana

Uruguay is the home of real white men.
>forlan

es.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ponsonby
making everything go their way
with the cisplatine war their trade with inner south america was interrupted, if Uruguay were a part of the United Provinces of the River Plate they should had to respect the United Province's laws and payments for the navigation in those waters
so they created a new country and now the estuary follows international laws

>with the cisplatine war their trade with inner south america was interrupted, if Uruguay were a part of the United Provinces of the River Plate they should had to respect the United Province's laws and payments for the navigation in those waters
>so they created a new country and now the estuary follows international laws
that makes lot of sense
it's a shame we don't learn things like this in school
how geopolitics have shaped our world

>come into thread expecting bad tackle .webms in 240p
>learn a bit about South American colonial history instead

Neat.

Weird how the largest country is Lusophone though, you'd think Brazil would just hug the Eastern coastline and not be thousands of miles wide.

Forlan had a clear view and laughed because he knew that was 100% on purpose. But you know, muh garra charrua.

so urugay is the south american belgium?

Luxembourg is the real buffer state between Germany and France, Belgium exists as an independent nation today because they split off from the greater Netherlands.
When the Belgians demanded independence the German emperor even offered the Dutch to send troops and take them down because a Greater Netherlands under Dutch monarchy was preferable to the existance of another Low Country with half its population being francophone, which leads to more influence for France.