Plans for the death star already finished by the time the clone wars started

>plans for the death star already finished by the time the clone wars started.
>muh kyber crystals

EXPLAIN

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The plans were almost finished. That doesn't mean it was already constructed.

unironically made me really remember that scene

Wasn't Mads working for the "Empire" before the movie started, and then he went into hiding? He probably helped make that initial design

have you ever built anything? Im guessing something the size of the planet needs alot of on site revisions

The geonosians designed the death star, erso only designed the laser

>hivermind bug colony
>designing something
lucas a shit
why is lucas a shit?

And later used as labor and gassed to keep the secret

Then why would they let him put a flaw, so small, so powerful, that it could destroy the entire station, when it had nothing to do with the laser?

>the only Star Wars movie without a Death Star or Death Star equivalent was Empire Strikes Back

but somehow Abrams is a hack and Sup Forums loves the prequels now

The first scene of the movie happens when the girl is young which places it around the time of ep 2/3

>Retard Geonosians steal end up with plans for the Death Star.
>It's completely retarded.
>Takes 20 years to actually design and build.

What's absurd is they built another one so quickly and whats beyond absurd is the whole TFA Death Star thing.

>One shitty hologram is the same as building a space station the size of a moon

How does anyone think this is a plothole? We saw the Deathstar under construction in Episode 3. That doesn't void Hannibal being the lead architect or the crystals powering the primary laser.

STOP STOP STOP LISTEN TO ME HERE

Rogue one is split too as well. It starts off with young Bunnyfu then there's like a 20 year gap before all that other shit happens. So the first part of the film could have taken place a little before Episode II.

According to Pablo Hidalgo (part of the Lucas Story Group), it didn't take 20 years to build the death star. Most of the time was spent figuring out how to get the laser working.

We need a movie dedicated to kyber crystals

In engineering, you often start with concept drawings, just to get the idea and direction solidified.
From there you work out all the minute details.

This dude was around during the Clone Wars at least

>plans for something that is built in the next film
>versus something that is supposed to be just like that thing but biggerer and betterer
Abrams is a hack, you drooling fucking idiot

defend the Death Donut that got destroyed by a 9 year old who flew a spaceship by accident and pressed random buttons until he somehow managed to destroy it when no one else could

your single mother failed you, user

Was the Trade Federation ship supposed to be a Death Star equivalent, because of the central sphere?

he's literally the chosen one you stupid piece of shit

force guided his son to blow up a death star, force guided him to destroy death donut

It's a 10 year gap, she's like 17 in the movie, and the guys who kidnapped Mads were emperial

You see this sphere ships all through the end of AOTC. The Death Star's external design was definitely Geonosian in nature. Erso helped design the actual weapon inside.

Those are the spheres to the Trade Fed ships.

I think so. They're primitive forms of the same technology, made by the Separatists, that is stolen and given to Palpatine ... and they just happen to look exactly the fucking same.

>Imperial soldiers
>Imperial designation
>Talk about the Empire and the Emperor
>"It happened a little before EII"
Are you innately stupid or did you train to achieve that level of stupidity?

I love how these movies contradict themselves


Lucas, Abrams and Disney are all hacks

Death Star is such a shit concept. I can accept evil empire completly destroing planets and wasting all those resources, but muh giant sephre is just damn boring. I don't understand why fans obses over it or why it became so iconic, it's easily the worst part of OT.

I just wonder why it didn't have docking for ISDs. It certainly would have had the room, but it seems like they'd need to shuttle everything back and forth.

The Wright bros flew a plane in 1903, It's not like people stopped suddenly stopped designing planes after that or advancing aerospace-engineering or whatever.

>getting this angry over someone thinking something in a movie aimed at children is dumb

much better than a third death star
You literally can't reasonably defend a third death star. I don't care that Disney doesn't call it a third death star because that is exactly what it is

Wrong

It's that or the 'Death Cube', really, isn't it ?

That image's name even calls them the core spheres to those ships, and you see them docking up when Dooku is letting out his sails.

WE WUZ NGNIERS N SHIEEET

I prefer to think a lot of stuff from the prequels isn't canon, specially EI and EII

>death star
>is a circle
??

nevermind, right. good thing this is Sup Forums and I don't have to delete my account

Goddammit, fuck those prequels.

>blaming the prequels when you're just retarded

Episode II: high technology, full 3D holograms, the death star plans can be handheld and downloaded instantly and projected from a small handheld device

Rogue One: primitive technology, death star plans take minutes to download and are carried on fuck huge hard drives

bravo Lucas

Mads didn't design the the super laser, just the power generator/reactor

Because the Empire are Nazis and the Death Star is their nuclear bomb

>The Death Star was designed by Geonosians led by Archduke Poggle the Lesser, a member of the Confederacy of Independent Systems. During the Battle of Geonosis, he gave the plans to Count Dooku, who decided to ferry them to his master Darth Sidious, who would keep them safe.

trade federation faggots BTFO

Yeah but that's Episode 2,. TPM just has the orbs surrounded by rings

Fucking CIS scum

Ok, how about it's like one or two years after Ep3.

Palpatine is already emperor. Stormtroopers are already introduced.

It's clear from the conversation that Mads has been working on the death star for some time before he fled.

The trade federation ships were designed by Geonosians as well. You're both stupid.

Rogue One was such unnecessary fluff

nigga you're trying too hard, belive that if you must but disney cannon is still bullshit, wouldn't be surprised if they retcon the secuels and only leave that 3d cartoon

But at the end of EP3 the Death Star was already like halfway done, it's a bit of a stretch to think they didn't already have all the necessary plans.

youtube.com/watch?v=0IZOfZ8McSA

>it's another millennial star wars youtube channel telling us about some comic book shit

no

rogers will still do it right lads? WONT HE? He still could win??????

is this punishment for being a faggot?

Prequels: Lucas makes no effort to have continuity and introduces technology that's far more advanced than the ones in the original trilogy

Rogue One: Edwards goes as far as to use the same shitty Vader helmet from 1977 to maintain some semblance of continuity, despite it looking out of place and stupid

bravo lucas indeed

fuck off nerd, no one invited you to this conversation

why was he called Count Dooku anyway? Like, I get that Darth is a title for sith characters and general grevious is a general, but did Lucas name him that because it sounded evil?

>"Darth Icky"

The main weapon did not have a power source

Geonosians design clearly was very flawed / didn't work. So they needed to basically redo almost anything except the outer frame. Thats why it took so long to build the first death star, the bug people's design didn't work. Thats why the emperor turned them into slaves and had them gassed, he was pissed that the Death Star was an epic failure.

Death star 2 was just an upscaled DS1 without the reactor port. If it was finished it would have eaten entire fleets without getting a scratch.

Honestly I wouldn't mind if Disney gave the prequels the EU treatment, they cause way too many issues with the canon and blatantly contradict things in the originals. But then again Rebels is just as stupid and they approve of that so who knows.

>tfw we will never get prequel showing Anakin's fall to the dark side in one movie without all the contrived shit and over the top cartoony parts so it fits in with the tone of the originals

they could get the Winter Soldier guy to play Anakin, dude's the fucking spitting image of Mark Hamill

faggot

>The Geonosian plans are rough plans and the laser was never finished being designed.
>The Republic "stole" the plans between EP 2 and 3, and they decided to start building it because they thought the Separatists were building one too.
>Krennic tries to get his old bud Galen to to work for them, but Galen is pacifist.
>Meanwhile Galen is trying to use synthetic kybers to create a clean power source for planets. It never works because synthetic kybers are shit and don't work
>Republic becomes Empire
>The Death Star seen at the end of EP 3 is just a frame with a placeholder laser dish
>Galen is hired by the Empire to conduct research in his kyber energy source research
>They give him real kybers, and they work
>Eventually Galen figures out said research is for a weapon
>Runs away and goes into hiding
>Begin Rogue One
It didn't take 20 years to build, it too 20 years to get a reluctant engineer to design the laser and get the laser to work.

He was an actual count, and his family name is Dooku. Count Dooku was his official name and title. His Sith name is Darth Tyranus.

It's basicaly Lucas wanting to do the Clone Wars Emperor Palpatine. Noble title + actual family name, while the sith name (and status) is kept secret to almost everyone.

Reminder that prequelshit is NOT CANON

>>Eventually Galen figures out said research is for a weapon
>eventually

It's amazing how dumb smart scientists can be.

What about RotS? I know the DS appears for a few seconds but its irrelevant to the plot.

I'd take a prequel remake over a young Han Solo movie or Old Ben's Desert Adventures, that would at least be something new rather than 3 movies in a row that lead directly into A New Hope

I never said it was relevant to the plot in the 7//8 movies it was in, just that they appeared in every movie other than Empire

Was Empire making shit up as they went along? They started building a giant chunk of scrap metal at the begining of episode III and wanted to put some sort of death laser inside but didn't know how it would work?

count is a royal title you fucking retard

My Emperor, how many I serve you
>Lieutenant Commander Krennic your worst on the Deathstar was most impressive indeed, I want you to gather the lead scientists for a new project
Oh er... I shot them all
>You did what
I shot them to prove a point
>You shot the Empire's greatest scientists... to prove a point
Yes, I wanted to teach Galen Erso a lesson for betraying the Empire
>So these scientists were traitors?
No... Erso was
>So you killed the loyal scientists to prove a point to a traitor?
Yes, to scare him
>Was he scared?
Not really

I understand that part you autist, I was asking what relevance that had to his character or the story.

Wasn't he just making the weapoon it self?

>Not really

what was the Emperor doing between 3 and 6?

>3 and 6
? Watch 4 and 5 to find out

he's not fucking in them

Galen was brought on to design the power source for the main laser and it took him so long to figure out it was a weapon. I'm confused why the Empire wanted him so bad.

>they act like it's a superpowerful weapon and undestructible
>literal farmers destroyed it 3 times
B R A V O

He didn't, he just ok'd it. He designed the reactor to melthe down after taking a hit.
Read Catalyst.

ruling the galaxy and trying to find the source of the dark side to get more power and become immortal.

>Read Catalyst
Why? It shouldn't be necessary to read a book to understand a movie.

You don't need to. It's pretty irrelevant to getting the story, but here you are asking the questions, and I'm pointing you toward the answers.

Wait, Mads is in Disney Wars now?

First capeshit, now this?

Dropped.

but the nazis didnt even have a nuclear bomb. it was the usa who used their death stars twice.

>Death Donut destroyed by a 9 year old that's never flown anything before and did it by accident
>Death Star I destroyed by a farm boy that's never flown before

Death Star II and Starkiller were blown up by competent pilots though, and the Death Star II plans were given to them to lure them in as a trap but the Empire underestimated the ewoks so at least RotJ did something different with it and it had a purpose other than rehashing the climax of A New Hope. People say TFA ripped off the ending of ANH but the way they destroyed Starkiller was closer to the end of Jedi

>tfw RoTJ could've been kino and the OT would be perfect but Lucas didn't want to spend money on Wookiee costumes and wanted to appeal to little kids to sell more toys so he changed the Wookiees to Ewoks.

>spend 30 years teaching yourself the secrets to immortality
>get killed when your henchman throws you down a hole

what did sheev mean by this

maybe he didn't die. Who knows..

Didn't the guy who played Glenn Urso in Rouge one play Bail organa in revenge of the sith?

well if he survived the fall he sure as fuck didn't survive the explosion 5 minutes later

So you think this guy.

It took longer than expected to build the Death Star, getting it all to work, but the 20 year delay was the laser. Forget the non canon Legends superweapons (AYY LMAO SUN DESTROYING STAR FIGHTER) making a weapon with the sheer power to do what the Death Star does is a ton of work. Doesn't help at all when your main scientist fucks off and you have to pull him off his farm and then he works really sloooooowly and turns out you need a shit load of these ultra rare Kyber crystals and shit and those FUCKING REBELS keep fucking with your shit.

Looks like this guy?

Dumb fuck. Bail Organ and was briefly in Rogue One though.

*Bail Organa

Yup, the lighting in Rouge One made it difficult to differentiate the skin tones and they had the same facial hair and spoke with the same accent in the movie

>tfw rebel scum steal your death star plans
Such a hassle, yare yare