Michael Haneke

Is Haneke the greatest living director?

No. He's talented but he's a humongous socialist faggot and his films are so utterly preachy they sap all the enjoyment I would get from them in a technical standpoint.

>it's user hates a director because he doesn't agree with the director's supposed political views episode

Post your top 5 and guess things about others. >Le samourai >the long goodbye >the shining >carnival of souls >lost highway

>supposed
Cache is a trite story that desperately wants its bougie audience to feel uncomfortable with their lives and their choices which are inevitably a microcosm of brown people who get fucked over by said choices on a daily basis, at least according to Haneke's finger-wagging race-baiting anti-western parables. Pretty much all of his movies are like this, at least the ones people give a shit about.

I was a liberal faggot until I watched most of his movies. Seventh Continent is disgusting. The White Ribbon is crit theory trash.

Tommy Chong?

Kenneth Anger
Bruce Baillie
Kyle Canterbury
Chen Kaige
Larry Cohen
Gail Currey
Robert Edelstein
Ernie Gehr
Monte Hellman
Hou Hsiao-hsien
Ken Jacobs
Larry Jordan
Peter Kubelka
Jerry Lewis
Michael Mann
Jonas Mekas
Pat O'Neill
Yvonne Rainer
Michael Snow
Alexander Sokurov
Straub/Huillet
Bela Tarr
Johnnie To
Chris Welsby

>it's user runs to the other extreme of the political spectrum because he found hypocrites in his previous political milieu episode

>Kenneth Anger

Faggot detected. He has literally never made a good film.

His entire career is nothing but dishonest filmmaking at its worst

>not Sorrenkino

>Michael Snow

>made that one short film where camera slowly pans out while screeching noises play literally 50 years ago so he's better than Haneke

pls stop

What's that supposed to mean?

It means user has activated the word soup essay writing technique he learned in film school that his parents paid for.

That's just your Sup Forums infected mind seeing extreme political agendas in every medium.

I enjoyed Cache because of it's execution, the static camera placement with rich framing and composition and minimal cuts, the exponential tension building and Haneke's ability to pull great performances from the actors constantly.

Film is a visual medium, the plot is just a device for the visual narrative.

I didn't just find hypocrites. I found an entire ideology that rewards failure and throws barbs at those who succeed. I found a man like Haneke, who is not content with the lifestyle that has given him literally everything he wants, so he makes a movie that portrays his countrymen as scum. 71 Fragments is a piece of socialist garbage.

No, not even close. I'm sure he thinks he is, though.

What are success and failure to you though?

I can't help but think of that autistic dogfucker whenever I see Haneke, even though I was watching his films when YMS was still dry humping his teddy bears.

You can laud the execution all you want. I think Haneke is extremely talented. But what the hell more can you say about technique before you look to other aspects of his films? His disdain for modern Western culture being the chief thread that ties his movies together. You know his next movie is going to be about the refugee crisis, with many scenes being filmed in Calais? I wonder how many anti-Europe scenes there will be?

Success is actively trying to better your situation without harming others directly or indirectly.

Failure is resting on your laurels, being complacent, and expecting entitlements to last forever because you are entitled to them.

How does Cache reward failure and punish success?

There is no objectively "greatest" living director.

But I'm pretty sure Denis Villeneuve is the hardest working director at this moment.
You can say what you want about him, but he has been making atleast one film per year since fucking 2009 and all of them are critically acclaimed successful films.

I don't understand how does one not burn out, he is practically doing marketing and interviews for a movie he is already done with while at the same time being in post-production of an another film he is working on.
While other directors take 5 years to make a film and it resulsts in a complete disaster flop

Why is the man who lives in a nice house with a nice job and loving family spiritually dead inside? Why is the meek brown man in the shabby apartment so emotionally vulnerable and honorable and has a son who will risk everything for his father's honor like a proud warrior? Could it be that our modern western values have desensitized us and made us... dare I say... inhuman?

You're reading too much into it.

The only obvious social commentary is the book critic's refusal to admit he feels even a tiny bit responsible all the while being absolutely tormented by it.

>You're reading too much into it.
Sounds like you barely read into it at all. There's a reason this anti-west trash won so many accolades and it's not because of voyeuristic static camera work.

Michael Haneke's movies are all about him hating things he doesn't agree with though. Funny Games was literally just him bitching about the fact that people enjoy going to horror movies sometimes.

There is no explanation as to why the Algerian man committed suicide like that. If anything, the angle presented here is that those victimized by colonialism is continuing their own victimization by holding onto the grudge too long and even passing the grudge onto their children, who end up doing stupid things that backfire for something that didn't even happen to them directly.

>There is no explanation as to why the Algerian man committed suicide like that.
Because the police came to his apartment and forced him to relive the horrible thing the evil white man did to him.

Cache is this film is a massive test IMO pleb v patrician

It's a bad movie, it really is. None of the characters are engaging and despite the direct thematic set up, the film shifts to an aloof political dialogue

The colours are starch but don't elicit any genuine anxiety, it's not beautiful and it doesn't make you feel anything but boredom

Bad movie, but because its foreign and the only genuine explanation for the plot resolution breaks the fourth wall, plebs think it's clever

Even if [suicide because reliving experience] is true, you can't blame the book critic for this. Someone, probably the son, did send the tapes and the drawings.

You seem to be just on the lookout for anything that might suggest some group of white people may have done something wrong in the past just to be offended by it.

Sion Sono made 7 movies in 2015.

Massive pleb test for me is when someone thinks a movie needs engaging characters to be good

>Someone, probably the son, did send the tapes and the drawings.
The son absolutely did send the tapes. It's spelled out pretty clearly.
>Papa why are we living in a shithole?
>Well my boy it all comes back to my childhood where I was living on a wealthy white farm but the white child became jealous for some contrived reason and blamed me for a horrific atrocity so I was removed from Eden and thus my life was ruined
>Well shit I guess I better get my revenge in a creepy indirect way for some reason!

I'm not on "the lookout" for this. All of Haneke's films are anti-Europe, anti-modernity, anti-Christian, anti-capitalism. The White Ribbon is quite literally about the rise of Nazism in Germany. Haneke actually blames puritanical Christianity for it, because he's an ignorant shit.

If you think Cache is a mystery film about who sent the tapes, you are watching it wrongly. The tapes are the inciting force for the examination of the themes of repression, colonialism, guilt, etc. It's not a genre film.

>>Well shit I guess I better get my revenge in a creepy indirect way for some reason!

And the movie says this mindset is justified how?

>repression, colonialism, guilt, etc
This guy gets it more than the supposed "fans" ITT

Because the evil white man needs to be exposed for his lie, and face the consequences that is having the meek brown man's suicide on his hands. The blood was literally on him IIRC during the movie's bloodiest scene. It's as subtle as a fish slapping you across the face.

>The White Ribbon is quite literally about the rise of Nazism in Germany. Haneke actually blames puritanical Christianity for it, because he's an ignorant shit.

It's not about how suffocating it is to live in a tiny town and how such towns will act against anything that threatens their 'respectability' no matter who was actually in the wrong?

I don't understand why one can't come away with the message that the colonized must also heal and move on.

>I don't understand why one can't come away with the message that the colonized must also heal and move on.
Because the meek brown man literally did nothing wrong but exist and then die. He is the tragic victim oh boo hoo please weep for this brown man he didn't do anything wrong and now he will die for your sins, white man.

And congratulations on missing the allegory in The White Ribbon. It's not like Haneke explicitly beats the audience over the head with his messages. Did you see Funny Games and think it was a story about how people let their guard down despite warning signs of danger?

>He is the tragic victim oh boo hoo please weep for this brown man he didn't do anything wrong and now he will die for your sins, white man.

Am I supposed to conclude the living situation of the Algerian man is entirely predicated on the book critic making up a lie when he was six?

This. Is there a single fucking person who can't already guess that the great evil in Haneke's upcoming migrant crisis movie is going to be a stand in for the white European middle class?

Let me put it like this: Being forced to share his great shame with some nobody cops got him so worked up that he fucking killed himself over it. Obviously this event in his life was so damning that it affected everything he ever did henceforth.

DUDE WHITE GUILT LMAO

I saw Benny's video and that was retarded. Some kid from normal family become a cold blooded killer by watching a couple horrors or something. I assume that Haneke is just another pretentious and hysterical idiot.

Don't watch 71 Fragments. Refugee child is literally more enlightened than all of the European characters. And it ends with a spree shooting by A WHITE MALE

How much of the fault can you really ascribe on the six year old child though?

The movie is a study on themes from all angles, not some one-sided screed against the whites.

>How much of the fault can you really ascribe on the six year old child though?
Because the six year old white child was privileged, and IIRC was all upset that this nobody brown kid was taking attention from him, so the selfish evil white kid kills a chicken or something and blames it on the brown kid so he can have all the privilege and attention for himself. WHITE PEOPLE ARE BORN RACIST

>How much of the fault can you really ascribe on the six year old child though?
Haneke made the proto-Nazi children of The White Ribbon responsible for all the violent tragedies of that movie, so obviously very in his mind.

What's your take on Amour? It didn't seem political to me. Just a worse version of A Simple Life.

Amour is definitely the least political movie he's done but there are still some scenes that chastise Western traditions and values because Haneke cannot help himself he is so pathological. The scene that sticks out is where George contemptuously tells Anne about a mutual colleague's funeral and how silly the ceremony was. You could feel Haneke's contempt for Westernism in that scene.

I've watched Armour and White Ribbon. They were both at least 9/10 movies. Planing to watch Funny Games next.

While he is a great director 2 or 3 good movies don't make him the greatest. That would probably be Spielberg.

Funny Games is a chore to watch.
Dude people who watch slasher / torture porn movies are weird voyeurists. Wouldn't it be fucked up if it was real ppl lmao.

He seems intent on sucking the life out of life. I find him tedious and disgusting.

But spielberg hasn't made a single great film

He's definitely not the greatest, but you're going too far. The man singlehandedly ruined cinema by proving well-made brainless fun is all you need to make stacks of money.

His next movie will hopefully be his last so this socialist goon can finally be in a grave.

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This, quite simply, fucking tears it. I want to like Michael Haneke. I think he's got an impressive eye for detail, he manages to get provocative performances from his actors, and even the premises of a lot of his films are interesting. I've watched the majority of his films, trying to understand exactly what makes him tick.

After finishing pic related, I've had enough of trying. I can't believe the audacity of this guy. His capitalist shaming "modern life is empty" bullshit has finally made my fucking skin crawl. Does he want us all to abandon our pursuits and go to places where "life really matters" and people die of the simplest curable diseases every day? Why doesn't the old coot do it himself? Nope, he would rather make his meandering heavy-handed movies designed make Westerners feel guilty and uncomfortable with their lifestyles. Oh my God, they have jobs?! They have possessions?! They have expendable income?! THEY ARE SO UNHAPPY! LOOK HOW UNHAPPY THEIR LIFESTYLE HAS MADE THEM! LOOK HOW EMPTY EVERYTHING THEY DO IS!

Fuck Michael Haneke. Keep on biting the hand that feeds you you old edgy sack of shit. Anyone who takes these "messages" to heart should be deported to North Korea with Haneke.

bup

Is he farting?

Danièle Huillet died a few years ago

Are you the one who came up with the Satantango pasta?

OMG LIFE IS SO TERRIBLE AND HUMANITY IS OUT FOR THEMSELVES WITH NO EXCEPTIONS! EVERYTHING IS BLEAK AND MEANINGLESS, FREEDOM IS A TERRIFYING THING TO STUPID PEOPLE, AND THE WORLD IS A COLD AND UNFORGIVING PLACE! LET ME DEMONSTRATE THIS BY HOLDING THE CAMERA ON THE DESOLATE BARREN WASTELAND AND THE PATHETIC MONGRELS WHO ARE THE CHARACTERS FOR MINUTES AND MINUTES AT A TIME AS THE AUDIENCE SHIFTS UNCOMFORTABLY UNDER THEIR GAZE! HA HA HA HA! I AM SUCH A GENIUS! THANK GOD I WASN'T PURGED BY STALIN OR ELSE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS MASTERFUL VISION WITH THE WORLD! YES, YES, LOOK AT HOW SHE TORTURES THE CAT! IT IS A METAPHOR FOR THE CORRUPTION OF POWER! YES! POWER... CORRUPTION... HUMANITY SUCKS! NOW GIVE ME MORE MONEY TO FUND MY NEXT NIHILISTIC MASTERPIECE!

this is my favorite movie of his

you're looking at it the wrong way. its meant to be an antidote, like you treat snake poison with snake poison. It definitely helped me.

he's an edgelord therefore a fucking shit

I remember how I started laughing uncontrollably when I figured out that Cache is just about 'french guilt' about algerians because it doesn't work or makes any sense without this subtext, for George to act like he does and disregard everything about Majid. Fucking hilarious.

Why are people so triggered over the fact that he's a leftist?

Because it defines everything he makes.

Socio-political views define everything anyone makes.

No, moral views do. It's just that leftist ideology is based on materialist (socio-economic) axioms

Why are you conflating political views with morality?

leftism bases its politics on preceived moral diemmas

>materialist (socio-economic)

Isn't that the basis for any political ideology?

>socialist
I presume you are an amerifaggot who cant destinguish between socialism and filosophy

capitalism has no morals. part of why it's the greatest system in the world.

Yet right wing movements are often the ones most obsessed with notions of absolute morality and how they must uphold them in society.

fair point.

user said critically acclaimed successful films, not cheesy garbage

>Is Haneke the greatest living director?
Probably one of the best, but as you can see, don't expect the low IQ Sup Forums crossposters on this board to like him.

he's a hack

>Implying that him being a socialist is a negative thing and would stop him from being the greatest living director
>Implying there's any good right-wing kino

Doesn't matter what critics think, Sion Sono was working harder.

>Implying there's any good right-wing kino
A Nazi propagandist has contributed more to the foundation of cinema as we know it than Haneke or probably anybody else you could mention.

>Implying there's any good right-wing kino

Quantity of made movies alone doesn't necessarily mean "working harder".

Someone can work on an album for years and years, while someone else can just shit out 20 songs in day without much thought to it.

Haneke isn't a socialist. Europe is socialist, and he still despises its existence to the fucking core. Haneke just seems to want western civilization to crumble to pieces.

It's sad how Sup Forums is only capable of discussing director's work and films in general in terms of politics exclusively, completely shoving away every filmmaking element there is in the process.

No wonder Armond White is your lord and saviour.

It's sad when a director lets his politics bleed into every film he makes and its clear he's seething with a contempt for his own society that's pathological. It's not my responsibility to divorce from him what he can't divorce from himself though.

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He said "good."

1. Haneke
2. PTA
3. Tarr

you better take that back

i agree