Paranoid

What are your thoughts on this, Sup Forums? I think it's pretty great. Super innovative too.

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It is good, and for their time must've been fantastic to hear. But now it just sounds outdated in the bad way.

I like it a lot, especially Planet Caravan.

For me, it's Fairies Wear Boots.

It's definitely outdated. It's one of those albums in which historical context matters a lot.

not as good as master or s/t. paranoid feels like a greatest hits album. maybe if id never heard any black sabbath before it id like it but i heard too much of this album as a kid to enjoy it now

8/10
Rat Salad and Planet Caravan don't work

Iconic, but once you discover MoR and Vol. 4 you lose interest in it

The song paranoid is so basic and overplayed that you kind if forget that the rest of the album is great. Kind if like smoke on the water on machine head. Fuckin normies.

This

Good album overall, but for obvious reasons I avoid the obvious "hits". "Electric Funeral", "Planet Caravan" and "Hand of Doom" are some of my favorites.

(Nice dubs)
I'm afraid both of you are sadly wrong.
Not only has this album stood the test of time, it, like Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables by The Dead Kennedys is still very relevant today.

We are living in a world where thousand of shell shocked war veterans are coming home suffering from PTSD, all strung out on drugs, with an opioid epidemic out of control, virtually no funding for the VA so these people will end up out on the streets, homeless, plus their family have turned their backs on them, they don't know who to trust, and we still have a mad man in the white house threatening to use nuclear weapons on any country that dares stand up to him. The only thing we DON'T have are a bunch of privileged middle class spoiled brats spitting on these vets and shouting BABY KILLER in their face, because supporting the troops is now the COOL thing to do, even though these same kids wouldn't give a dollar to a homeless person begging on the streets, even though they fought for their country.

This album came out as the Viet Nam war was winding down, and pretty soon the U.S. will withdraw from the Middle East, but, from where I sit, not much has changed, and, sadly this album is still relevant today.

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Love it. I rarely buy CDs but I saw this and masters of reality and picked them up on a whim.

planet caravan is god tier, rest is ok

It has one of the best opening tracks of all time.

It's a great album, but their best one is easily Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. That's a flawless record.

Iron man and paranoid are trash but the rest is excellent. Especially War pigs, planet caravan and electric funeral.

good analysis user

Volume 4=Masters of Reality>Sabotage>Paranoid=Black Sabbath>Sabbath Bloody Sabbath

I try to avoid bias of something because it's "classic", but Paranoid really is a 10/10

The ending solo on War Pigs is the greatest solo ever recorded

Now tell us your thoughts on Fresh Fruit, user

Glad to see you rate Sabotage that high

what's wrong with SBS? i like the first half of it

Outdated my ass, the sound still melts your face if you listen to it on a good stereo

Iron Man is, unironically, the worst track off of the album.

I can't get over that album cover. I always thought it was just some red blurry spectre or something.
Then I properly look at it and it's some guy in a budget LARPing costume, fucking lol.

kind of fits the album title don't you think...

black sabbath are one of those artists that get compared and contrasted album-to-album all the time, but are never just celebrated for having the best 4 streak in history as often as they should be.

best six
dont even try

Led Zeppelin's six streak was better, though.

Hard to believe both those bands put out 6 amazing albums over the same period of time

Is that because if I was LARPing i'd be paranoid that someone might find out?

look at the his face. motherfucker clearly flying on speed cut with something even more nasty.

Yeah, you're right he's definitely flying. Still don't like the cover though...

it's a good album, but it's just not as good as the rest.

personally i think it gains a certain context looking at the LP cover.
try it one day maybe.

I disagree completely. Sure, it doesn't sound like something a band would release today, but the music is so timeless. Paranoid is the perfect radio song at just under 3 minutes, and War Pigs is the perfect epic at just under 8 minutes. Iron Man is probably the most tired song on the album, only because it's so popular, but on its own merits it's still a very good song. Planet Caravan set a precedent for future stoner-doom metal albums featuring a lighter interlude. On top of all that, it did, without a doubt, influence modern metal as we know it a lot more than anything that was recorded in the following 10 years after Paranoid was released. For that, they were absolutely ahead of their time.

>On top of all that, it did, without a doubt, influence modern metal as we know it a lot more than anything that was recorded in the following 10 years after Paranoid was released.
*proves you wrong*

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>album by the same band
We can debate about the significance of each of their albums, but I guess more than anything I'm arguing that Black Sabbath as a band was more influential on metal than any other band, with Paranoid being a large influence, as Master of Reality is as well.

Master of Reality is their first album that really set them apart from other hard rock acts at the time, because aside from the title-track off their debut and Electric Funeral it's mostly blues inspired hard rock which isn't surprising since they listed Led Zeppeling and Cream as two of their biggest influences but Master of Reality was super ahead of its time and there was absolutely nothing that sounded like it at the time of release. It's the first doom metal record through and through and Into the Void is still heavier than most stuff coming out today.

The title track was my introduction to the band and the genre as a whole. Great album.

i'll give it another chance

Yeah, but I wouldn't call Paranoid hard rock or blues rock like Led Zeppelin or Cream at all. Their debut album sans their eponymous song definitely could be considered that but Paranoid was their first album that set them apart, in my view.

Yeah I can kind of see that especially with tracks like War Pigs, Planet Caravan and Electric Funeral but on the other hand stuff like Rat Salad seemed like a direct response to stuff like Moby Dick and Toad and Iommi was actually apprehensive about the title track because he thought it resembled Communication Breakdown too closely. I just think that Master of Reality is the album that definitely gave them a unique sound from the downtuned guitars to the slower tempos that are now closely associated with doom metal.

>afraid both of you are sadly
i'm afraid you're over doing it, we can handle being wrong sadly.

muh veterans

>Black Sabbath that low

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no it still rips you faggot

Literally no clue what you're on about

Name a worse track from Paranoid than Iron Man, pro tip: you can't.

Rat Salad

Well, since you got trips............

We have a millionaire in The White House who has made money in real estate, has fucked over thousands of people because of his being a real estate mogul from making shady deals, to displacing people who used to live in certain neighborhoods before he bought everything up, plus the police still round up people who disagree with this person, and, as he ran for POTUS, riots occurred at his rallies and counter demonstrations, many of his supporters are openly racist and xenophobic, and he's not only made racist and xenophobic statements, he has either praised certain racists and xenophobes, made them part of his administration, or, at the very least given them a pass. And let's not forget his recent jaunt to San Diego.

When you think about it, songs like Kill The Poor, Let's Lynch The Landlord, Police Truck (Only available on the U.S. Version) Drug Me, Chemical Warfare, California Uber Alles, I Kill Children, and Viva Las Vegas, living under the Donald Trump administration, FFFRV is still relevant today as it was in 1980

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>pretty soon the U.S. will withdraw from the Middle East
No they won't, Iran is the next target.

This too, muh troops voluntarily get paid good money and good benefits to go overseas and kill people who've done nothing to them.

>On Iran
Sadly, I'm afraid you might be right

>on vets
Yes it true that thousands of young people volunteer to go to foreign lands to kill people they don't know, but prior to 1973 young men didn't have a choice, except to either leave the country, renounce their U.S. citizenship and never return, or go to prison. Plus, as long as Selective Service registration is still mandatory for men turning 18 in the U.S., at the President's discretion, mandatory conscription could be re-enacted at any time.

You might've gotten dubs, but you forgot to include When You Get Drafted in your list of important songs from FFFRV.

still waiting

Paranoid itself

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