Which country has contributed the most to humanity, Italy or France?

Which country has contributed the most to humanity, Italy or France?

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America

Certainly not Sweden anyways lmoa

Italy created France

Italy created the basis but nowadays western world is shaped to the image of France.

GREECE CREATED ITALY

AND THE HUMAN RACE

ITALY

THE BASTARD SON OF GREECE

FRANCE
THE SON OF A BASTARD AND A WHORE

Isn't Germany the bastard son of France?

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE

GERMANY IS A MONGREL

GERMAN HISTORY IN SHORT:

I AM JEALOUS AND MUST COPY GREECE ROME AND FRANCE

GERMANS KILLED MORE WHITES IN HUMAN HISTORY THAN ANYONE ELSE

you would like to see me jump at the throat of a frenchman wouldn't you?

Italy is not Rome

yup, in fact Rome is only a part of Italy.

Italians are not Romans

not all of them, but Romans are Italians :)

Taci, barbaro.

France via Napoléon III created modern Italy after the war against Empire of Austria. You're welcome

And look what has become of it

Frenchies are bros, try these baits with the anglos.

It's kinda hard to say. A lot of what France influenced the world is based ton Italian work. I'd say France because it's broader but Italy is a solid fundation up to the 18th century
"Gallia" existed before the roman conquests, and France as a kingdom is irrelevant to rome

The French have certainly been more influential when it comes to shaping the modern state of Europe. Italy laid its ancient basis. Depends on which you like best. For what i'm concerned France died with the war of Vendée.

I dare to say, it's france.

Paris influencee the world. France however, has always been raped by Paris.

UK and perhaps the USA (the USA contribute a lot since their birth)

other way around

...

I am Greek

It's more like incestuous siblings I think.

>Romans create France
>France creates Italy
>France invades Africa
>Africa invades Europe

life, uh… finds a way

If you don't count Roman Empire, France

kek, nice

I've never been to Italy but I think it's Italy because French people were the worst ever when I visited Paris
They treat me like a subhuman gook(actually it's true but German weren't that bad)

Le japanese interesting post.

We're far superior per capita than you niggers ever were.

>Royalist shittalk
>italian flag

....wut.

Franco-Italian Union when?

>Italy laid its ancient basis
italy is not even 200 years old

We can only dream.

el GermANO furente, seniores

listen, Hermann Wolfesteinsson, go discuss the consistency of mud and the problem of heating caverns somewhere else

>biggest economy in Europe
>1st country for international tourism
>cultural juggernaut
>cuisine to end all cuisines
We would be unstoppable Jacques, but it will never happen

the border shape would be utter shite, this problem is insurmountable

unless switzerland and part of germany are conquered

I love Italians
I need an venetian gf

Why have I never thought about this? This is perfection

>ye olde "a country is as old as his most recent political form" argument
Listen to me mr 3 october 1990, that argument is for dumb burgers.

No.

>hating based royalists

faggot

French Swiss and Ticino can join too. Only problem would be the capital. I'd say Rome and Paris are left in charge of each part and a symbolic capital is placed in Nice or Aosta.

Both are equally important.

d-don't fight please

p-please let us in, save us from ourselves

>Aosta

Let's take some random town near the Franco-Italian border and turn it into a huge capital

For shit and giggles :^)

Egypt created greece

Let's annex Monaco and make it the capital, it's ideally placed

I will never forget perros castellanos for oppressing italy in the past, fuck you malditos, free catalunya libre, fuck ethpana, fuck madrid, fuck madrilenos hijos de puta, mierda

el peruANO senores

At this we might as well just revive the Roman Empire

at this point*

stop making me sad

Splitting the capital is rarely a good idea.

The de facto capital should be Turin.

As a gaul : nah, thanks

I still like Italy, Spen, Romania and Portugal

>Italy

The Flintstones created Egypt

>As a Gaul

yes, you roman subhuman

I am a gaul

*tips laurel crown*

Northerners used to be Gauls too but they were smart enough to stop larping after some time they got Roman'd.

>As a gaul

>as a Gaul

user, I'm afraid it's far more complicated than that

Don't listen to this guy, I for one welcome our Roman overlord

I live in the 'middle' of France

My autism is justified

I WON'T LET MY DREAMS BE DREAMS

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you unironically deserve death, tbqhwyfamalam

No, you guys can't become one with the Krauts.

yes

No, we created g*rmany

uh?

>Gaul
Inferior to the glorious Visigoth, fag.

franks>gauls>>>gothsubhumans

Franks... GIVE IT BACK

non

Syria

DO WHAT I SAY Y-YOU SUBHUMAN GAUL

>Barbarian thinks he's got shit on the rich Narbonensis

don't bully gauls