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Is it worth trying to recreate famous sample-heavy beats, such as early Kanye? It sounds like a good exercise to me.
Jaxon Cox
im sure it can be a great exercise. though, i assume the real merit in the process lies heavily in what you actually extract from the finished product; if you realize you can emulate certain artists well and just decide to keep doing that, or if you note every step along the path TOWARDS that sound and step out from it at some point, before the completed simulacrum, to make it "yours" and not let your music rest entirely on its quality of pleasant-sounding derivation. might also help with learning different time signatures and seeing how others navigate through them and form their music and words around them. >tl;dr >depends on ur reason for doin it and what u hope to end up with
Charles Hill
Speeding and chopping up old soul music doesn’t seem like it would as hard as it probably was when he was doing it with a hardware sampler. But if it gives you practice sampling then go ahead. I just think there are probably artists doing more interesting things with samples than old Kanye
Wyatt Robinson
I'm still learning to mix myself, so I can't offer useful feedback on that. It sounded pretty good to my ears, though.
I really liked the song. My favorite parts were the vocals (the style really fit the song well) and the first synth that comes in (with the pitch bend). The structure worked well, too. My only [mild] criticism is that the bassline seemed a little distracting when it first comes in during the verse. I think I would have liked it better if you started with a simpler bassline in the first part of the verse (even if it's just two notes), and then added some more movement about halfway through. That's just me, though. The bass works well in other parts of the song.
How are you liking the Minilogue so far, btw?
Alexander Stewart
Pretty much this If you are listening critically and extract the methods independently of copying someone's song there's really no point to that part
Eli Butler
Thanks for the feedback brudda. I really like it so far. I could never get into synths because I find the interfaces on computers to be overwhelming, I wanted something I could sculpt with my hands. My technique isn’t great on keyboard cause I never learned (I mainly play guitar bass and drums) so as a user my ability is limited. Sometimes it’s hard to get back to a sound if you accidentally change something. Overall it sounds great and has been a great addition to my sound
Jackson Peterson
I like the UI and sequencer of a TR-8 but i dont want the TR-8. what are some other drum machines that are similar to this?
Jaxon Powell
clyp.it/1jwspjan Synthwave hotline Miami memes, lecture me and tell me what I did right and wrong daddies
Noah Perry
whats a good way to go about getting soundfiles from video games? there are some cool video game noises that i like to try to make into cool bleeps and bloops
Anyone else on /prod/ struggling between using ableton and FL? I love both, I started on FL but ableton is just so refreshing.
How do I intergrate the two? I just can't fucking seem to do it. Rewire just has so many problems. Has anyone been able to successfully use both in their workflow consistantly, if so, how?
how about Studio One? I recommend it to everyone because it's really great these two you use are too electronica-oriented, not versatile enough (4me)
Jackson Watson
Pretty much every drum machine with a sequencer ever?
Old electribes
Record them yourself desu, otherwise it'll be a long search
The whole second half of he last thread was all shitposting, it was over 300 mang
Pump and dump fl for its synths and effects duh
Fuck off how is this even relevant you're coming across as a low effort shill
Zachary Jones
I think you should just choose the one you like best
Chase Wright
>how is this even relevant >/prod/ - Music Production General >DAW discussion it is very relevant
Jack Sanders
>these two you use are too electronica-oriented, not versatile enough (4me)
nobody gives a fuck that you like this daw because it's "electronica-oriented:" ; he was asking how to make another two work for his workflow, not for a flimsy recommendation based off of what other people like
Has anybody in here had success with any online singing lessons/programs, and if so, which one(s)? Google only seems to turn up individual programs or other sites/videos shilling those programs. It's hard to find any legitimate discussion or comparisons of the different programs.
For what it's worth, I'm a terrible singer who's had no training, but my ear is decent. I'd prefer something that will cover the fundamentals and not just advanced stuff, but all suggestions are appreciated.
Realize that you only like FL for its piano roll and right click context menu. Learn Ableton's hotkeys, and realize that using piano rolls comprise a minimal amount of your production time, then leave FL until they actually make progress on the DAW's flaws. It's not like you'll have to pay money for when they unfuck it.
Grayson Sanders
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Juan Perry
Pirate the Image-Line VST bundle and use FL's plugins in Ableton. Then keep FL installed for those rare cases where you need it, and use Ableton for everything else. Best of both worlds.
Aaron Roberts
I like it good job. Could use some instrumentation changes
Tyler Powell
New York vocal coaching clarified some things for me which helped me go from sounding like I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing to just meh
Pretty much everything online is going to be previews and misinformation
If you can you should really get lessons in person
Zachary Roberts
Thanks for the rec...that channel looks better than others I've come across so far. I'd prefer to be closer to "just meh" before I pay somebody to coach me if at all possible, so I'll start with the "beginners" playlist and see where that takes me. Much appreciated.
Cooper Gutierrez
Mmmmmm I'd advise getting lessons asap. The thing is if you dont know what you're doing wrong you have to guess what it is. It took me over a year to get to meh because I didn't know that my voice was breathy, and then I didn't know why it was. Any decent teacher would have identified that immediately and i would've been where I am now within a month if I was consistent.
If you've ever learned an instrument just think about all the stupid shit you didn't understand at first lol
Grayson Murphy
Good point. I taught myself guitar a few years before YouTube was a thing, and my first 5 years of progress might have taken me 2 with lessons. I could probably still stand to take a lesson or two if I'm being honest.
Jace Collins
>he was asking how to make another two work for his workflow get a third one, which combines advantages of these two
Daniel Brown
I've been dabbling in Studio One lately (and really love it so far), but I'm not sure I'll ever fully adjust to not having Ableton's native plugins or pitch-shifting algorithms available. That's really my only complaint about S1, so maybe I need to give it time. Ableton is just fun-mode for creative sound design. I wish those two DAWs would have a baby.
I know that using Rewire is easy in S1, but I can't get Ableton to open 3rd party VSTs in slave mode (apparently S1 is hogging them or something). Otherwise, I'd try using Live as an instrument.
Xavier Morgan
Bunch of slightly older games just had the sound as wav files on the installed folder. You should just look in there, or if you don't want to install just download the .exe and extract the files. 7zip should work for that. I can't remember exactly when those files stopped being accessible, but wasn't before about ten years ago? So plenty of stuff you can get.
Adrian Lewis
you cant even run max for live in rewire mode its stupid
Sebastian Watson
You still can on some games. It depends on how they've been programmed and how dedicated those who want the sounds are (since some times you have to hack yourself in the files). Just last month I downloaded the Bloodbourne files that someone extracted and put on reddit.
Austin Thomas
Yeah, I wasn't sure about that since don't really play modern games because no GPU. Just some that I have managed to play with my i5's native capacities, and I noticed the files weren't as easily accessible. Thanks for the info anyways, cool to know.
Levi Martin
Shit, what am I doing? Reply was for
Josiah Ramirez
I don't play modern games either. I just like videogame samples, since they're usually clean and well-recorded (at least on high-budget games), and are perfect for layering, mangling, and generally sound design.
But you're still half right, since it's become much harder to get them, and some times it's basically impossible.
It's a rough mix which I'm gonna start work on tomorrow. Vocals need redoing and I'm beginning to think the drums are stupid as fuck. Any advice on what else needs fixing?
Ayden Jackson
That's dumb. I've spent the last couple of hours figuring out how to use a program called JACK to route audio/MIDI between Live and Studio One without running either in slave mode. I just finished getting it all configured (I think), but still need to test it out. I'll guess I'll post an update for anybody interested tomorrow if it all works out.
Bentley Perry
To all the 'shitposters' in here:
Nolan Morgan
what did he mean by this?
John Russell
Fuck, had no idea you could run JACK on Windows. Man, that's gonna make me hate so much less using this shit platform when I can't get the plugins I need to run on Linux through WINE. How come I didn't know this shit?
Gavin Collins
prolly get this q alot but idc. headphones under 100$ that are good enough to produce on?
Leo Allen
Beats™ by Dr. Dre
Luke Gutierrez
Mixing on headphones honestly isn't advisable. It's always good to check your mixes on headphones/earbuds (and a variety of listening devices if you can), but monitors are usually preferred. I'm not a mixing expert by any means, but that seems to be the consensus. Other more skilled anons can probably back me up on this.
If you're looking for cheap monitors and can afford to spend $200, I can recommend the JBL LSR305's. They're normally $300 per pair, but they're on sale at Guitar Center for $200 right now apparently. They sound equally great for casual listening, especially if you pair a subwoofer with them later. If you have a Guitar Center near you, they should have a section where you can A/B different monitors if you want to check them out.
I don't really know what to tell you about headphones...sorry. I have some old AKG K240 headphones, but they honestly don't tell me nearly as much as the JBL monitors do.
Jeremiah Morales
join the club
John Russell
Been trying to do home recordings but I have no knowledge or skill in it. Can I get some fresh ears on this? I mainly would like to know if there's anything particularly abrasive about the sounds.
>I mainly would like to know if there's anything particularly abrasive about the sounds. Yes, needs more mixing
Ryder Myers
Thanks. Anything specific you can point to?
Alexander Anderson
At what point did making on computer music became so accessible? I know the currently popular DAWs were already available 15 years ago, but it's hard to believe it has been around for so long. Why does it feel that there was a boom these past five years or so?
i have room mates and like to play at night so i need to use headphones
Elijah Hernandez
gonna make four songs in a day,see you later anons
Cameron Adams
maybe has something to do with the "meme wave" people found so much comedy and ironic interest in music, mixed with abundant social media use, so much energy and neurotic output. probably just has a lot of people thinking they have some kind of aptitude in it, "delusion of grandeur from expected attention and near universal praise" or something. idk this post makes me sound a lot more grouchy about it than i actually am. i actually like the boom, not necessarily the music (lot of it is quite shit), but it's very definitive of gen z and may later really give us something worthwhile
John Russell
Can confirm everything in this. I have those JBLs and my mixes improved immediately. The room dynamics are SUPER important though when it comes to mixing with monitors. The room I mix in hides certain frequencies, which is why it's also important to listen on several different devices you trust somewhat, preferably consumer devices like earbuds, car stereos, and bluetooth speakers. You want stuff to sound good on everything. Monitors make the most obvious frequencies and levels easier to tame but I still find that other devices reveal things to me that monitors don't
John Miller
I make dead-genre music with guitars drums and bass in a small-room studio. Beyond having a better room, better mics, better preamps, etc., what plugins, i.e. compressors, EQs, limiters, and other useful mixing plugins can I use to improve my mixes?
I'm feeling like I'm hitting a dead end where all my mixes sound somewhat muddy, and most of the time it seems like I'm just trying to tame frequencies. here's an example:
How do I get piano roll to stop playing after the notes stop? Instead of looping, it plays through the empty space.
Adrian Nguyen
Stretch your budget to the Beyerdynamic range. 250’s, 770’s and 880’s
Juan Lopez
best noise cancelleing over ear headphones? ~200-400
Kevin Collins
I’m not sure which ones i have, I think they’re the 250 pro ohm or something. Sound great but wouldn’t recommend unless you have a headphone amp or good audio interface. For mixing on the go or just through your computer I would recommend getting a pair with more friendly impedance to the device being used most often
Parker Hughes
I like it a lot. What's the audio effect on "I can put you here"?
Kevin Gutierrez
Yeah I have the 250’s 80ohm version. I use mine on my iPad, through my mixer, out of my audio interface and eurorack output and not had any problems. I’ve had mine for 15 years now too so well worth the money. I recently replaced the ear pads and they feel like new again.
Evan Lee
Studio One has way way better features for arrangement and recording music than Ableton. But it has a really limited sampler and the Ableton rack system beats everything else on the market (except Bitwig which has the same system). If I had a really good third party sampler and didn't mind losing the rack functionality I would switch to either Cubase of Studio One. Studio One is cheaper and there's a crossgrade price if you already have a license to another DAW.
Nathaniel Ramirez
How do I make my melodies not sounds like shitty 90s pop?
How do I make my synths not sound like shitty snes midi covers?
Zachary Ross
Well, they sure were around 15 years ago, but not in the same form. They were much more complicated to use, and the interfaces were not user-friendly at all. Software in general was not marketed for the least common denominator, let alone what was seen back then as professional technical software. FL Studio, back then Fruity Loops, kinda introduced the concept of trying to be organized in such a way that you could figure out basic usage just by looking at it, but still it was a pain in the ass compared to nowdays. One sympton of what I'm talking about is how shitty from a technical point of view most amateur music shared around the internet was on the last decade. I'm not saying by any means everything was shit, but it was even widely accepted unless talking very niche forums for you to be producing for a while and still post some shitty trance with no activity below 90hz with a dead-ass kick just farting everywhere like a 90 year old loose asshole, with absolutely no punch, if you haf a mildly interesting three note riff playing on a preset with stock reverb thrown over it. Because to really understand production and learn your daw or plugins properly was seen as more esoteric and expected from someone working on a professional studio making cash than from the dude in his mom's basement smoking grass from a garden that a nigger sold him saying was weed.
Stay away from Magix. Their shit is really limited, and literally features in-DAW purchases for what should be basic features.
Tyler Adams
How and why does Grimes use a SP404 live? And in production? As a mp3 player to hardware launch her music?
Parker Johnson
Oï guys, I wonder if anyone here is using Maschine. I find it great to find pattern/loops ideas, but sort of week to produce tracks overall. I also wonder how you finalize your tracks: do you arrange everything in Maschine and then export them, or do you rather use Maschine as a VST in a DAW and record your different channels there. The fact that it's impossible to automate volume directly in arranger mode on Maschine is a big fail for me.
James Wright
Hard to find sounds and learning resources. I still am amazed when I internet search an obscure question and someone in a forum had the exact problem answered 5 years ago. So in 2006 when your computer had a buzz sometimes with a track there was no way you could figure it out on your own, and as we know there are hundreds of problems with production so it all compounded and you'd be demoralised.
You'd make a track with what you had and wouldn't know why it sounded wrong and it was too hard to find out.
Ryan Howard
oh another thing, sampled music or obviously computer music was still very niche and usually bad so everyone's tastes were different. Vaporwave is hilarious to me because that music they steal from the early 80s was so stigmatised even 20 years later you'd listen to it if you wanted to commit social suicide
Jackson James
Yeah I use maschine but have gone back to ableton after I figured out key shortcuts. That was why I got maschine in the first place, to get away from mouse and screen.
You can automate arranger but its tricky. What annoyed me is using shorter samples and wanting to volume automate a second of it was ridiculous but in ableton easy.
With maschine, you want to use it as a DAW but you can't really. If used as intended, a vst hardware instrument for coming up with patterns to supplement your DAW, its great, but mixing and polishing a track on its own is too fiddly and you're better off taking whatever you've done to a DAW, even though something inside you doesn't want too heh
Juan Roberts
Computers became more powerful
John Roberts
Something i made last night (Y) Tell me what you think ;D clyp.it/5yuuzgan
Can someone red-pill me on Reaper? I downloaded it because some people on a forum said it was cheap and good. It was pretty daunting at first but I'm getting ahold of it after some months (the trial is supposed to be over but I don't know it keeps working).
Should I just fuck off ASAP and just start to get used to Ableton? Or is it a decent DAW?
Owen Roberts
When you say "taking whatever you've done to a DAW" do you mean MIDI or Audio?
I've seen that some people automate volume using Ableton as a MIDI in but that's so damn heavy for something which should be so simple.
Benjamin Peterson
Learn music theory Layers Layers Layers
Dylan Ortiz
>he fell for the layers meme
Luis Martinez
>(the trial is supposed to be over but I don't know it keeps working).
I've heard it's "WinRAR free" and if it makes you money you can still pay for it affordably. I think it does the job well even if it's a bit daunting as you say (the takes and split features don't gel well too intuitively) and does take some googling to learn some simple features. A lot more menu driven and easy to get lost but their built-in JS effects and VSTs are pretty great. Hell, they provide the VSTs for other DAWs for free too. It's made by the creator of Winamp so I want to believe they know what they are doing even if I'm supposed to customize the hell out of the program given the option (which I don't since I can just look up the Actions and run them from there) but you can run mostly vanilla settings with a few checked boxes here and there in the preferences. There's also ReaPack and SWS plugins worth checking out too.
Zachary Bailey
>When you say "taking whatever you've done to a DAW" do you mean MIDI or Audio?
You can run the audio out, record it track by track (eg bass, arp synth etc) to a daw like ableton so all your tracks are lined up in ableton. So it would be audio rather than midi. Or you can leave it in maschine and run it as a vst through one channel in your daw. You'd do that if you couldn't be bothered putting it to audio and had done say the beats and wanted to add a bit more in. I suppose you could have multiple instances of maschine. All this is online if you search or in the manual.
The idea being you want to edit it further so a DAW is better equipped for that.
Zachary Brooks
.. You could take a midi pattern from maschine cut and paste it to say ableton drum rack, but why would you? Maschine's drums are fucking wicked
Carson Wilson
How the FUCK do I fic this shit? This past week I suddenly cannot modulate anything in SERUM filter. It's a legit version and I have tried unistalling and reinstalling it twice now.
Using Anleton 10, but no idea why or how that would fuck with it.
Cheers. Not much going on really, I just introduce two more separate vocal takes each panned slightly left and right.
Brody Powell
It sounds like too many of your elements are occupying the same space on the stereo spectrum. Everything seems to be bunching up in the middle and creating mud there. Try reserving the middle of your stereo spectrum for bass (kick and bass guitar) and the meat of your vocals (effects on your vocals should be spread out depending on what they are).
Tyler King
>analton kek I don't use serum so I don't get what youre trying to do
Andrew Brown
>Taking a picture of a computer screen so you can phonepost Shoo underageb& shoo. Go bother Duda, he has a tech support forum.
Dylan Morales
To all the producers here: You can't do shit. I am an actual artist and going to change and mix shit with different samples etc to make not full songs, but whole albums that include bridges, intros, outros and many different technique's to approach the samples I find. To me it's disgusting how you wannabe artists come here, take three seconds from Rubycon for a loop and think you're the shit. You are nothing.
Connor Lee
the strings are great. bass might sound better if you beef it up with some distortion. I'm not sure how I feel about the structure, referring to how much it breaks up. I think you could fill up some of those spaces with more movement. maybe add some intermittent reverb to the snare and/or intermittent claps with heavy reverb to make it more atmospheric. really like it though.
