Terrible adaptation aside...

Terrible adaptation aside. If you have exactly zero chance of winning against a dangerous enemy and there might be a 1% chance you could win and save your followers, but only if you sacrifice your loved ones, will you do it? How do you justify it?

if i had 0 chance then that would mean we're all would be dead, or even captured so why not

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>Dabid
>Get the crayons

Except that Stannis doesn't exactly has zero chance even in the show. He could turn back to castle black, left some of his men to guard Shireen and his wife like in the book, hell he could have retreated and make a proper defense formation in the forest where he dies.

Besides killing his daughter practically causes him to lose half of his men. Who knows, if he doesn't burn his daughter maybe he still has enough men to at least withstand the Boltons assault.

What are you implying here user?

Not gonna try to make some bullshit...

No. I am simply not that insane. Besides a 1% chance is too small of a chance to take. Even in Westeros where magic and perhaps is real, its a dangerous gamble. 1% chance don't work like in Hollywood, you are more likely to fail/fucked up.

*and perhaps deity
Sorry

There was no time to make Stannis/Bolton storie like in the books. They skip just to end of it. Or atleast I think that GRRM told D&D what happen to him and they made him go.

Also season five Stannis has one of the best stories in that season. Can't say how desparate he will be in Winds of Winter, but if end result is burning Shireen and losing the war againts Boltons it's gonna be great storie in the book too.

But mystery remains... How will fans react when Stannis burn Shireen in the book? Will they hate GRRM?

Mel will burn her if anyone does, Stannis will probably fuck the Boltons & Freys up but not win the war

They basically change Stannis whole personality. Book Stannis is at heart honorable and has well intention, but forced to take pragmatic and ruthless tactic to achieve his goal.

TV Stannis, despite what those /got/ posters try to say, is an objectively evil person. He still has those shades of honor and well intention, but at heart TV Stannis is an ambitious man that uses everything and everyone to get what he wants, and saving the realm are nothing at the end but excuse.

While its a terrible from book reader perspective, from a tv viewer's perspective its the ultimate culmination of TV Stannis character, how his ambition ruins him and destroy all that he care and love.

This was not the choice Stannis had to make.

The real choice was:

>I definitely believe in this God because I have witnessed its miracles.

>However, in order for it to give me what I want in this life, this God apparently requires escalating gestures of Faith. These are called sacrifices.

>If I give the God my daughter, thus sending her to heaven early and giving her 60 or so years more heaven than she would otherwise have gotten, then the God will intervene on my behalf against this freezing weather that is making everyone suffer.

Its a really clear choice. The only reason he found it difficult was a gut reaction, not because it was intellectually the wrong thing to do. If your God pretty much definitely exists, then you should do what it says. Its not that hard to understand.

>Sacrificing your loved one to save your follower
>"Wait, if King Stannis can burn his daughter alive what stopping him from burning/sacrificing us all??" Holy shit maybe we should run or defect to the Boltons, this guy is fucking insane."

No, i won't.

You're a retard. If Stannis sacrifices a random soldier not much will happen, as it isn't a big sacrifice for him.

Stop and think about the fact that this matters to you

reminder that the reason winter was delayed and the storm cleared was because of this sacrifice

which let jon snow win

I read through the first 2.5 books but felt it started going downhill just like the shows and gave up.
Do the rest of the books have any redeeming qualities or is it just as retarded as the shows?

The Red God like 'The Force' in Star Wars has a dark, twisted sense of humor, and always tell the truth.

From a certain point of view.

Like giving Stannis a flaming sword that isn't actually Lightbringer, what an asshole

I like that this image is set up like we're in the 1800s and him having a mixed-race son is some kind of big shameful secret, and not public knowledge, and completely normal.

I think he's saying he's a cuck because his son is darker than his wife user

Kid looks like his father to me.