Can we all agree that white people should stop trying to be rappers?
How is this not blatant cultural appropriation? A fundamental facet of rap is the struggle to overcome racial prejudice, and these suburban white kids obviously don't have any real perspective on that issue. In fact, I'd say they're actually contributing to the problem by depriving minorities of their cultural influence.
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he doesn't look fully white
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he doesn't look fully white
shut the fuck up you retard
music is a free domain and people are individuals, not groups, dont tell me about fucking cultural appropriation
Too white to be rapping.
There's no way that this is a legitimate post. You're joking, right, llibshit?
Also
>Logic
>"white"
>is biracial, and grew up in a drug-infested household with an addict, absentee father and a crazy, possibly prostitute mother.
But the Beastie Boys, Aesop Rock, El-P, Atmosphere, and Edan are (or were) among the greatest rap artists of all time
Not to mention CunninLynguists and Jedi Mind Tricks
Bet you anything this guy is white.
That's a nice sob story, but it still doesn't address the fact that he hasn't had to deal with discrimination. Also, I lol'd at "biracial." This dude is white.
What’s the problem? Just don’t listen to them.
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clearly the best way to mend prejudice is to preclude certain people from making certain types of art based on their genetics that should do the trick
ut this the struggle to overcome racial prejudice, and these suburban white kids obviously don't have any real perspective on that ise fuck up you retard
mublatant cultural appropriation? A fundamental facet of rap sue. In fact, I'd say they're actually contributing to the problsic is a free domain and people are individuals, n
>muh cultural appropriation
Reminder that without cultural appropriation, we would all be eating roots and bugs in the dark.
I never said white people couldn't write good rap music, I just said they don't have any business doing it.
My problem is I care about cultural appropriation.
The Diet Nigga is half black. What percentage do you have to be to satisfy your unnecessary bitching?
Rap isn’t exclusively about “the struggle,” sometimes it’s about being the best at rapping. Why do you think 80% of rappers have songs called, or similarly named, “The Best Rapper Ever”
Yes, rap is about subject matter but its also about skill.
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>"white"e problem? Just don’t listen to them
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teir genitals that should do the trick
It's not exclusively about the struggle, but it's still necessary to the genre.
Can't this be seen as accepting black culture?
No, this is more like hijacking black culture.
I'm asian
That’s not the point
The point is they want something to whine about white people for
Notice these types don’t call out jazz music for being a bunch of blacks playing traditional European instruments, but if a group of whites came together and played African instruments the “muh cultural appropriation” crowd would lose their shit
Rap in and of itself is an appropriation of other genres of music forwarded by white people. This really shouldn't be an issue that you get upset over.
>My problem is I care about cultural appropriation.
grow up
>This dude is white
white-passing*
Suits are a european cultural piece of formal clothing for example, blacks shouldnt wear them
> Also, I lol'd at "biracial." This dude is white.
Except literally he isn't. He's half and half. Nice trump-level of fact denial, dipshit. Want to call obama, drake, jcole white as well since having both automatically makes you white?
The difference is that black people turned those genres into something unique and entirely their own. That's not what modern white rappers are doing.
Does it bother you that the most successful rappers in history are white?
>Vanilla Ice
first rapper to get an grammy
>Beastie Boys
highest selling rap group in histor
>Eminem
constantly referred to as one of the greatest rappers ever, inspiring a lot of white rappers today to continue their own struggle of becoming popular in a primarily black form of media.
>Macklemore
again, one of the few rappers to win awards for their work.
Stop being a proto-cuck and being mad that the white man is emulating a popular genre. It’s still primarily black - it’s still popular with the black community and still one of the most popular genres in the world. Stop crying about the little shit like the occasional white kid with decent bars becoming popular. You’re acting like white people are taking over the industry.
Just enjoy the shit you enjoy, dumb ass. Let other people dabble in the genre. If people thought as narrow mindedly you, people like Marvin Gaye or Hendrix would have never become successful black musicians in primarily white genres.
Black people driving cars, using the internet, and living in houses is cultural appropriation.
Blacks never made any culture worth hijacking. Think of it as improving.
the beastie boys are jews and maybe macklemore is too
How do you figure they're the most successful rappers? Is Dr. Dre not the richest rapper alive? Why didn't you choose to include him in your list?
How about rock music?
This.
>thinking niggers create
damn, I'm glad I don't know you irl
Yeah, it would be a total shame to have to interact with people you disagree with, huh?
what a great thread
>How is this not blatant cultural appropriation?
Who the fuck cares, go back to Tumblr you nigger
You are all responding to obvious bait and I hope you are at least remembering to sage
>Rap
>A "music" genre who's existence is solely based on the endorsement of white people
>OP thinks american culture is being appropriated by americans
>mfw
That happens when you call racists out for what they are.
I'm not even black. I just try to defend the rights of marginalized communities.
Rap existed long before white people started to appreciate it.
>Why didn't you choose to include him in your list?
I dunno, maybe cause he's not white?
Like, seriously. Are you actually retarded?
@78765298
you're just a bored idiot who decide to rile up the other bored people/idiots
fuck off
We never said anything about your race, coin slots. We’re telling you why you’re absolutely wrong.
Your list wasn't white rappers - it was rappers you called "the most successful" rappers in history. You only chose white ones because you're a racist.
>Rap existed long before white people started to appreciate it.
Prove it. Name 1 (one) "culturally" significant rap album that wasn't endorsed and immortalized by whitey.
fuck off nigger
>Rap existed long before white people started to appreciate it.
Rap is recorded and marketed by white people. We literally control your shitty genre.
Rock music became good because whites improved it and expanded it than niggers could ever wish.
>Networth =/= Greatest rapper
No, idiot, The Beastie Boys are objectively the most successful rap group. Most awards, most records sold, most sold out concerts.
Rappers like Dre, Jay Z, and 50 Cent are successful because of their endeavors outside of music. But if we’re talking album sales, The Beastie Boys have everyone beat. Go on youtube and look up “Beastie boys HiphopDX” so you can be spoonfed some red pills.
If you're not black that just makes you even more of a brain dead faggot. Most black people in the community literally do not give a shit about """cultural appropriation""" so you virtue signaling for them that "HEY THIS IS NOT OKAY" is absolutely fucking pathetic
(((White)))) people
>cultural appropriation
Why is this considered offensive?
As I already said, I'm not black.
How am I supposed to prove which demographics purchased albums?
Why not include someone like Kanye on your list? If I'm not mistaken, he has won more Grammys than any other rapper.
I disagree that rap has to have some sort of "over coming racism". There a bunch of different ways to use rap in music.
>A fundamental facet of rap is the struggle
No, that's a fundamental facet of hiphop and hiphop culture. Rapping is just the action, it's not immediately some greater thing which is why you always hear people ask what X rapper does "for the culture". Also who wants to listen to struggle music for 30 years? Aren't we at a point where rappers can rap about whatever they want? Jesus christ.
I don’t listen follow Kanye, so I wouldn’t know but even if he does have more grammy awards, how does that negate anything I said? I’m still right.
Oh man, I just lol'd so hard. So that list was the most successful rappers that you follow, which all happen to be white? I think I just proved my point about you being racist.
>Gets proven wrong time and time again
>”R A C I S T!”
Fucking idiot. I never said I only listen to white rappers. I gave you a list of the most successful rappers, which happen to be white. I’m done talking to a brick wall. You do you.
You gave me a list of "the most successful" rappers, which apparently doesn't include the rapper with the most Grammys? Again, you chose criteria for being successful arbitrarily to make the list all white.
>How am I supposed to prove which demographics purchased albums?
You can't. Which means the foundation of your argument is based on a fallacy.
Rap wasn't popular in black communities before white people started listening to it because I can't show you demographics of album sales?
I forgot that niggers have exclusive rights for a genre of music. And that guy's half black.
> Depriving minorities of their cultural influence
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Good.
Daily reminder that Bob Dylan started rap.
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Meh, I guess you guys convinced me. I'm going to go jam out to some Post Malone.
>OOOOOOOHHHHH, I FALL APART
Burden of proof lies on you. The only reason rap is and was even available is because Morty McShekelburg's music label made it widely available. Without endorsement from the music industry (aka """white""" people) rap would have never taken off. White people also listen to and enjoy Blues and Jazz, does this hurt your feelings as well? Hell, I even have a few Hatian Vodou drummer LPs in my collection, am I appropriating yet? I fuckin hope so.
Hey man
ANYONE can make hip hop if they want. you can write some bars and rap them over a beat even if you are some pasty boy from helsinski and thats more or less what yung lean did and he's great
for fuck sake america stop telling people what can they do and what not shit
WHO CAN RELATE
Let's not forget that Grandmaster Flash and other goofy rappers from the 80s tried to put out a "positive" message into black neighborhoods, and 'they' rejected it for songs by drug dealers and gang members instead.
Third pic is just too much, I hate how veiny those are.
>third pic is too much
looks fine to me mane I’ll take big veiny mommy titties over cherries any day
His only blatantly non-white feature is his nigger hair.
What about latino, asian and other non-black rappers? You can’t gatekeep an entire genre.
Latino - yes
Asian - no
Why not? You’re just spouting words with no reason at this point.
cause it was real for them, really relatable.
you don't know how it feels to be told about love and comprehension and being nice when you cross the corner and see a dead body almost every month
trust me
(not from the usa and not black btw, but can relate)
It's based on the amount of racial prejudice they have had to overcome. I guess saying "Asian" is a little too broad, though. Probably would have to take it on a case by case basis.
why? can't there be hip hop with an asian vein? with an asian identity? with an asian-influenced sound?
there's nujabes. and there's rock n roll from all parts of the world that are not memphis or white.
who the fuck are you to say who can and cannot rap?
I thought asians were supposed to be smart. This post was made by a retard.
Like I already said, it's about the amount of racial prejudice that has been overcome. So yes, I suppose their could possibly be Asian rappers who aren't doing the genre a disservice.
*there
hip hop is not only about racial prejudice.
it's one of the issues but it's not THE issue to reference to when rapping
you can rap about ANYTHING. it doesn't even have to be about your problems
i guess if a white suburban dude from whatever generic american city raps about problems he hasn't touched everyone will be mad at him because he's a fucking posser
but other than that, if he wants to rap about his life, there's not a fucking problem, man
tl,dr: it's not about your color Chang
Like I already said, rap isn't only about racial prejudice, but it is necessary for it to be a component in order to preserve the integrity of the genre.
>hip hop is not only about racial prejudice
Yes it is.
Do you think Nas was rapping about white people not being able to get to work on time or pay their cable bill? NO. He was talking about BLACK people, African Americans, having to sell their crack to feed their kids and turn right around to then sell their kids to buy their crack.
Please don't talk about black issues when you've clearly never experienced them.
Cultural Appropriation...
A marxist theory, not an accepted fact.
And one only accepted by a tiny, tiny, minority of people on tumblr - no one else, including the people supposedly wronged by this imagined issue, give a single fuck.
No one.
Not one person.
Except young (university age) white middle class liberals and virtue signalling lesbians.
The rest of the fucking world moves on and thinks "what a load of wank"
not at all, genres change bby
what are the topics that accompanied rock n roll since its birth to this day? none. cause everything changes with time
from social issues and lyrics to sounds and trends and fashions and opinions
it remains the heart. and you don't have to be from any specific racial group to feel it.
yes NAS was talking about THAT
NAS was talking about THAT in HIS album
what the fuck men, do you think anyone that makes new rap albums listen to illmatic to know what's hot in the genre to rap to?
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As the other poster said, but you missed it, it is not ONLY about race. That is only one facet, one aspect, one part of the whole.
Rap music can range from getting high, getting laid, and shooting a motherfucker, to reminiscing about school and childhood, being responsible about being a parent, ecological issues, political commentary, religious problems, and falling in love.
You telling me every rhyme Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince spat was about race?
Fuck off cock rash. You know nothing.
Nas was just an EXAMPLE, idiot. There was also, oh, I don't know, NWA?!
Do you think Ice Cube and Doctor Dre were rapping about white America and mayonnaise prices? They were rapping about black people being killed by thug cops with AK 47s.
You've clearly never listened to rap if you think it isn't racial.
Read the lyrics for Tupac's Changes and tell me it isn't about race.
I think you'll find it was other gangsta that the had the AKs - the police don't normally carry them.
As I said, you know nothing about the genre if you think it's all about race.
Nothing.
Give up and listen to cock rock, imbecile
Why don't you go write a country song whining about your pickup truck not having enough tensile strength to carry your four horses from Texas to Nevada you white idiot.
for fucks sake, boy
yes nas nwa biggie tupac and mobb deep and anyone you can think of were rapping about problems in their communities (not entirely true honestly cause it wasn't the only thing they were talking about)
gangsta rappers rap about gettin money and fuckin bitches mostly
aesop rock's themes are not the same as gucci mane, both are hip hop
lil ugly mane raps about real problems he faced in his life and he's not black. real hip hop
death grips consists of two white dudes and a black men, and they are one of the most influential artistic acts in the music world in the last decade
colombian and mexican and argentinian and russian and african and american rap don't rap about the same thing
but they're all hip hop.
so what's your fuckin point
I literally didn't read any of these. Know why? Because your white condescension is palpable.
Rap has racial elements. Period. End of story.
Tupac's Changes might be about race.
Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince's Parent Just Don't Understand isn't.
Neither is Universal Blues by Movement X
(revisiting my youth right now)
Your move genius
This is what happened when rap stopped dealing with racial issues.
your baiting skills are horrible and you should feel bad
A number of important reasons why, chief among which is that I'm English.
Again, your move, cock wipe
This is your brain on White America.
xan's good, better than a lot of black rappers