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Michael Lewis
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Logan Young
Modern music is better for the morning, then work your way backwards to baroque in the evening.
Hudson Adams
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Thanks for the advice user, now I can wake up to the best composition ever
Brandon Campbell
Sorabji.
Alexander Hughes
Samuel Gomez
Solo piano music, like really, how de fuck do I into it? There's so much of it and it all sounds the same to me. I like chamber and orchestral music, but can't get into solo piano. Help.
Evan Reed
Try listening to Debussys preludes, they're very picturesque, which might be good if you think piano music is same-sounding.
Leo Barnes
then listen to this
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Alexander Evans
Justin Richardson
Jaxon Nelson
Beethoven
Jaxon Rodriguez
Who was the first faggot to write terms like Allegro, Adagio, Andante, Presto in their own language?
Aiden Russell
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Isaiah Harris
I wonder how would sound fortissimos on a harpsichord
Jose Ortiz
Petzold
Ryan Perez
I remember Mahler did it
Oliver Ortiz
Bruckner also did that.
Nolan Hill
Happy 333rd birthday to Johannes "Seabass" Bach!
33 1/3rd edition for St. Matthew's Passion when?
Ian Brown
Listen to the last 4 Beethoven piano sonatas and then binge all Scriabin sonatas in one go.
Sebastian Moore
Liam Cook
>(((((MAHLER)))))
ftFu
Nicholas Green
(((Bernstein))) should be banned form /classical/
Brayden Bailey
Schumann did it first
Nathan Jenkins
whats up with the links to download?
Anthony Lopez
>Baroque edition
Maybe someone can finally tell me what piece this is:
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Because either it's been mislabeled in the description, or the only other one or two uploads on Youtube are incorrect. I need to know because it's divine.
Landon Allen
It's the Valentini sonata a 4.
Dominic Harris
But it sounds different from this one
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which sounds different from this one
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How can there be three different pieces with the same name?
Leo Gray
What else do you recommend from Debussy? Just listened to the preludes and loved it.
Adrian Wright
glorious cover
Nathan Wright
the Images, Lisle Joyeuse, Estampes, Pour le piano, and if you want debussy at his avant-garde and dissonant, the studies
Jaxson Jackson
Does anyone else feel like Mendelssohn is underrated? I know he's well known and revered as a genius, but I'm starting to think that even that undersells him. I'm starting to think he's as great as Mozart and Bach.
William Gonzalez
Because baroque naming conventions aren't stellar and Valentini isn't a major enough composer that somebody bothered cataloguing his works.
"Sonata a 4" in baroque naming conventions basically means "an instrumental piece for 4 instruments+continuo". Both of the pieces you link here are sonatas for a group of four string instruments; the one you originally linked is for violin, cornettino, trombone and bassoon. As far as I can tell, that's the only recording of the piece. If you go by the opening chord then it's in A minor (well, it's Ab at modern pitch but if they're using baroque tuning - which they probably are - then written pitch would be A minor), and if the different instrumental line-ups were not enough, neither of those two other sonatas you linked are in that key.
Gavin Wood
Great grievance.
Daniel Bennett
Masterpiece
Bentley Martin
Masterpiece
Aaron Wright
Wow that sounds great and he wrote it when he was fucking 16
What am I doing with my life
Austin Gray
Beethoven Lieder
Jackson Kelly
Is this the best St Matthews Passion?
Looks like an all star cast..
Nolan Howard
He certainly was one of the greatest prodigies in classical music. I suppose he is in some ways like Mozart in that his music is seen as quite representative of its period, but with Mendelssohn it isn't quite to the same extreme as Mozart since he didn't really revolutionise the forms with which he was working and so go on to define the entire Romantic period.
Regardless, strong offerings in just about every genre existent when he was writing. His piano trios deserve a bit more coverage.
Aaron Turner
also check out his sonatas for when you wanna get into his chamber works
Nathaniel Kelly
I can already hear the sludgey bog oozing from my speakers just looking at that
Sebastian Bailey
Haydn - Austrian
Mozart - Austrian
Schubert - Austrian
Beethoven - German
Schumann - German
Mendelssohn - Austrian
Brahms - German
Wagner - German
Bruckner - German
J. Strauss - Austrian
Mahler - ...Austro-German?
R. Strauss - German
Schoenberg - German
Berg - Austrian
Discuss.
Thomas White
Of course you posted the Octet. That was the peak of his career, sadly. Mozart and Bach constantly surpassed themselves but the Octet was as close to divine as Mendelssohn ever got.
Easton Williams
Why do people like the St. Matthew Passion over St. John's?
I'm a bit of a pleb but Johannespassion is a lot more dynamic and exciting. Hard to believe he wrote that in the first half of the 18th century.
Alexander Collins
it's of its time. Klemperer Bach can be fun if all you're used to is HIP stuff, but sometimes it can be a bit grating. One of the most storied line-ups of any disk though, without a doubt.
Ayden King
Is the Gloria from Josquin's Missa pange lingua the most beautiful composition ever written?
>He fell for the common practice meme
Half of those names are average at best.
Luis Green
>Half of those names are average at best.
Yep, the ones containing 'Berg.'
Grayson Martin
sigh...
that list is pointless because German and Austrian nations didn't exist in the lifetime of most of these guys. Most of them thought of themselves as Germans, though, probably bc of the language. There are letters of Mozart where he called himself 'German'.
Also, Mendelssohn 'Austrian'? He's one of the few who's German without a doubt. As far as I know he never lived in today's Austria.
Schoenberg 'German'? He's one of the few who are Austrian without a doubt. Same goes for Mahler. I'm not sure if you're trolling or not.
John Myers
Listen to really, really different composers. Compare Satie to Balakirev. Mendelssohn to Beethoven. Liszt to Bach.
Try to figure out what different piano composers do differently and what they do that's the same. Pay special attention to the sequence of chords and how the chords are presented. This is why the piano is so special.
Mendelssohn is kind of a normie composer who didn't experiment much, but he was probably more exceptional child prodigy than Mozart and an amazing mature composer.
These are his two most-performed orchestral pieces these days:
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In his lifetime however, Mendelssohn was probably most known for his choral arrangements. He had a very rousing, polished, and maybe even polished style of vocal composition that was a great influence on basically every composer for the voice save the slow and serious Wagner.
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Mason Ortiz
Style not nationality, dude.
Grayson Watson
certainly one of the finest masses of the Renaissance. I think I'm singing it on Easter Sunday.
Common consensus is that the Matthew Passion is the more "complete" passion, larger in scale and scope, yet more unified. The John is a smaller work and perhaps not as consistently polished as the Matthew, yet I'd say the emotional peaks of the John are more powerful than in the Matthew. They're both incredible compositions though, and I doubt highly you'll meet anyone who hates one and loves the other, or argues that there is a massive gulf between them in terms of quality.
Tyler Foster
Schubert and Beethoven did it as well.
French terms (though not strictly tempo terms in the modern sense) are abundant in the music of Lully, too.
Noah Parker
what's some good, inventive, light-as-quicksilver minor-key baroque music. please don't post sludgey ciacconas.
Aiden Jenkins
Post classical memes that are actually good?
Nathaniel Butler
Levi Allen
>Baroque edition
>posts late renaissance composer
Xavier Barnes
Albinoni's oboe sonatas?
Also like everything Scarlatti did in minor
Evan Ramirez
Matthew Brooks
Babbitt says nothing becomes old quite as quickly as a new sound. In that sense solo piano repertoire is where you're most likely to hear the distinguishing elements in the music of various composers. You're basically an unwashed brainlet.
Grayson Clark
Beethoven sonata op. 111 is magical
Jason Robinson
>the last 3 minutes of Tchaikovsky’s Romeo and Juliet
Zachary James
is there differences in patricianhood or complexity within classical itself?
Is baroque better than romantic for instance?
Robert Thompson
>the first three minutes of Tchaikovsky's anything
Angel Campbell
>is there differences in patricianhood or complexity within classical itself?
Between periods, not really. Between composers, of course (duh).
>Is baroque better than romantic for instance?
There's great stuff from all periods.
I start with modern, late romantic and romantic stuff early in the morning, moving on to classical in the afternoon and baroque in the evening.
Romanticism is tighter, punchier and gives the forward momentum needed to start the day.
Baroque is more spiritual and astral. It's perfect for relaxing at the end of a long trudge through the reality of experience, after downing your 14th or 15th drink of the day, and settling down for bed.
Jonathan Hughes
Aaron Wilson
Romantic is ultimate pleb tier discounting stuff like film music and minimalism. Its not challenging like a lot of 20th century music, it doesn't have the mathematical sophistication of baroque and it doesn't have the formal elegance of classical music. Big brains listen to Bach.
Brody Green
Is heavy music theory knowledge really necessary to like classical music?
I know some from playing Trumpet and high school, but never really got behind all the keys and whatnot. I've been listening to a lot more classical lately, do you guys think it's reasonable to enjoy it just because it, well, sounds good?
Cameron Roberts
>Is heavy music theory knowledge really necessary to like classical music?
No but it can help /question
Owen Jackson
Baroque is autistic-nigger-tier noise.
Adam Gomez
>He (Klemperer) and Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau (whom Klemperer called "Herr Fieskau," which might have annoyed the singer) could not agree about how one of the major arias should go. Neither would give way. So recording it kept being put off (there were many recording sessions). One day Fischer-Dieskau said, "Doctor Klemperer! Last night God came to me in a dream. He said my way with the aria is the right way!"
>Klemperer did not react at all. Nothing. Not a word, not even alook. Silence.
>The next day, out of the blue, Klemperer suddenly said "Herr Fieskau! Last night, God came to ME in a dream. *He's never heard of you!*"
Aiden Howard
Minimalism isn't romantic, nor is film. Learn some basics before talking shit.
STEMfags out of music, go listen to your mathjazz.
Zachary Perez
I must listen to it now.
Matthew Long
no, and in fact there is an uncountable number of completely useless posts, threads, and even people who have proceeded under the assumption that there is
except that post ww2 "classical" is garbage and doesn't really belong to the same tradition as say, Mozart.
Jacob Jackson
Jason Garcia
His formatting didn't help, but that's not what the first sentence was saying.
>Romantic is ultimate pleb tier (if you discount things which are ACTUALLY ultimate pleb tier like film music and minimalism)
Matthew Perez
checkin' them quints
Sebastian Roberts
I see now. Yeah, his sentence was pleb-tier.
But minimalism is better than baroque, as are film scores. Proof:
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Post any baroque as meaningful as this stuff. Pro tip: you can't. It's just vapid escapism of the dying secular monarchy held up in their forts.
Henry Gomez
>Phillip Glass better than baroque
Oliver Mitchell
Checked for Scriabin's supremacy
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How do you think Steve Reich feels knowing that his most '''important''' stuff is just a second rate version of Moondog music
> Only being able to form an opinion on the most popular composer there
sad desu
Kevin Brooks
I prefer Alfred Brendel's rendition, which seems to express every possible emotional nuance with exquisite perfection.
Gabriel Hill
Lucas Scott
Yeah absolutely, pieces which are complex without regard for aesthetics are usually less noteworthy than those which take both factors into account.
This is why there are probably 100,000 published works of 12-tone music but the bulk of the attention goes to Berg's lyric suite and Pierrot Lunaire
Jaxson Stewart
It is though. What's valuable in baroque besides the bourgeois feelings of superiority? It says nothing of the world or its era apart from escapism. Beatles of its time at best, muzak at its worst.
I know it's not cool to like a film pleb like Glass, but compare this to Vivaldi's "Seasons" and it becomes clear who understood time and who did not.
I respect Vivaldi, I think he's by far the best baroque composer, but it's just silly to suggest that baroque is somehow far superior to any other period. It was ideological reaction that pushed the baroque meme.
Jack Campbell
>What's valuable in baroque besides the bourgeois feelings of superiority?
It would have been quicker and easier to have just posted
>tfw too dumb to understand classical
with a wojak meme image
Christopher Watson
This is either bait or just an incredibly closed minded individual, Glass isn't even near the best modernist.
Samuel Gomez
>implying commies don't also like feeling intellectually superior
Daniel Taylor
Why Vivaldi? What makes him better than fucking Bach?
Jose Morris
>Meyerbeer
>Mendelssohn
>Johann Strauss I
>Wagner
>Johann Strauss II
>Mahler
>Richard Strauss
>Schoenberg
>Hindemeth
>Carl Orff
How come nearly every German composer was full or partially Jewish, or had Jewish in-laws? Something to do with their historic role in theater?
Bentley Jackson
should add here I'm not a Nazi or anything, I am like Orff and J Strauss 1/4 Jewish and have German roots and find it interesting that many other composers come from this background
Julian Long
That's not nearly every German composer though.
Anthony Allen
There are just too many errors. Its pretty much incoherent. Not even wrong.
Ethan Flores
For that matter many of them are Austrian
Andrew Baker
Let's tear this user a new one, I say.
William Smith
*sigh* why am I not surprised to see your blithering idiocy in this topic? You're the child that just doesn't understand you're not supposed to touch a hot stove and does it over and over. It sickens me to see your unflinching, unapologetic ignorance. To say that I am disgusted by your infinitesimal comprehensional aptitude understates the irreparable damaged you have done to my faith in the human intellect.
Grayson Garcia
This post is somehow worse than the one it's replying to.
Justin Turner
Adam Peterson
>fartok
no thanks
Ayden Brooks
Jordan James
bump
anyone have a good, relatively obscure, string composition in a minor key?
Anthony Sanchez