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Crusades left such a scar that Muslims 912 years later are still mad

Wahabbisim

Islam

They got a little lax a little period in the middle.

muhammad came into the picture

You mean Egyptians/Iranians etc before Islam took over

Native Egyptians don't even exist anymore, they have been wiped out. Only the copts remain.

They started taking the word of a pedophile warlord seriously.

Death of Salahadin

Reagan turned them into radicals to fight the Soviets.

what do you mean by native egyptians? their culture doesn't exist anymore, but ethnically they really haven't changed a lot

Muhammad was a warlord. I mean fuck, if Jesus the hippie foot washing "love your enemy" cuckk could create Christianity, what the hell happens if a murderous peado designs a religion?

This.

They initially absorbed conquered culture/science and then promptly replaced it with more Islam.

It's a barbaric death cult.

The Arabs invaded centuries ago and outbred them

They same that will happen in Europe

shut up commie

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bullshit, the arab population was negligible to egypt's when they invaded

Someone actually bothered to read the damn holy book.

The general who torched the Bagdad library was asked about it by his troops. He answered: "If it's in the Quran we already know it. If it's not it's either false or not important. Burn it all"

The picture on the left never happened

Are you triggered?

No, not bullshit.
Just like how turks historically never lived in turkey.
Turks are a mongrel mix of gypsies from the balkans, arabs and mongols.
Before them greek people lived there.

Same for modern "egyptians" which are just arab mongrels.
And arabs themselves are semites that bred too much with niggers.

the usual answer: 1400 years of first cousin inbreeding

just calling out commie lies when i see them

> i don't know anything about history
the post

Not my fault that you never bothered to learn anything other than pop history from highschool.

i studied history you faggot

islam is a entire civilization model. and there is no place for it because judeo-cristian civilization is waaaaaay better. so they don't know who to deal with the butthurt of not being top dog when they supposedly have the """""true""""" religion.

They were started as a defense against islam dummy.

2/10

Hulagu didn't finish the job.

And you still suck at it.
Congratulations.
But at least you had a billion mandatory holocaust classes.

You ever see old depictions of the Sphinx where it is almost totally buried in sand? That's because when the Arabs conquered Egypt, they looked at all these wonderful sites and decided to either destroy or ignore them because they had nothing to do with Islam. Muslims are fucking cancer when it comes to a non-Muslim culture.

We all have Napoleon to thank for saving these ancient wonders.

they existed

He wasn't a Sunni Muslim. His beliefs were well outside of mainstream Islam even then.

not really, you should spend a little more time reading textbooks, though

this is actually a problem. I mean, the idea that anything bad that happens can be traced back to US foreign policy. yes, there have been fuck ups, but if the USA didn't exist the muslims would still be behaving like they do. because it's what muhamad did.

Muslims took over superior non-Abrahamic cultures and squandered their accomplishments gradually over the course of centuries.

Why are Christians such betas?

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fucking THIS

The same thing nearly happened to Spain, fortunately they slaughtered and expelled the Muslims.

>implying islamic golden age wasnt really the ransacking of europe

1400 years of inbreeding

>islam
>incest

To add to this, it was the Muslims who actually defaced the Sphinx:

>The Egyptian Arab historian al-Maqrīzī wrote in the 15th century that the nose was actually destroyed by a Sufi Muslim named Muhammad Sa'im al-Dahr. In 1378 CE, Egyptian peasants made offerings to the Great Sphinx in the hope of controlling the flood cycle, which would result in a successful harvest. Outraged by this blatant show of devotion, Sa'im al-Dahr destroyed the nose and was later executed for vandalism. Whether this is absolute fact is still debatable.

So much for that WE WUZ KANGZ theory which states that white men destroyed the nose to hide the "fact" that it was a black man.

Aight nigga imma axe you to get woke and STAY WOKE on this one
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The period where Muslims were smart was also a period where they were imperial and held a lot of territory.

They started to suck for a couple reasons, they lost territory, the west got more powerful, the Ottoman Empire became the only Islamic power and then ultimately declined and was destroyed in the first world war.

Killing off Saddam Hussein.

WUZ

This. Spain's only contribution to the world was expelling mudslimes from Iberia

Literally Retarded

This guy is right. A bunch of mullahs decided that math was haram and that was the end of that.

KANGS

>call muslims their brothers when they don't even believe Jesus as the Son of God
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Pic related happened. Inbreeding effectively made them borderline retarded.

Far-right religious takeovers. First by the caliphs, and recently by revolutions a few decades ago. In the 1940s and 50s countries like Iran, Syria, Turkey, and Iraq were pretty moderate and were actually modernizing until far-right religious groups took power and ruined everything.

This is also the perfect example of why the alt-right or far right should never have power. They just want kill people they disagree with, ban science because they think it's a conspiracy, and impose totalitarian laws.

holding them up to western standards

This

Dont forget the jews!

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The picture on the left is largely fiction, as the muslim golden age truely was an age of conquest and a few minor scientific discovery in math and optics. The rest they just pillaged out of our culture. The picture on the right is a pretty accurate picture of the extremist in Islam since Mohammad became a politician.

We're supposed to turn the other cheek, but it's hard to do when you're dealing with a violent savage.

There is no universal value system you mong.

Every race and every ethnicity has their own set of values and systemic morals they adhere to and best utilize than others.

What white people deem as acceptable and works for them is not at all the same as what middle easterners deem acceptable and work for them. Likewise for political systems, what works is unique to the type of people implementing it.

Far right seems to work for most white ethnicity's , may not work for other races and ethnicity's.

Sunnis, Wahhabis, and the left bowed down to them. Muslims don't respect weakness, same as blacks.

Mongol invasions

Basically the genetic stock responsible for achivements was wiped out / bred out by subhumans.

And that's the way the place been since.

they did the right thing: Banish your crazies into the desert.
Then someone found oil in exactly that desert and the crazies got power

The guy on the right is a paid protester.

Interesting.

This one knows - wahhabist/salafist extremist sect of Sunni = the Dark Ages

The ideals of the alt right and extreme islam are very similar...

hatred of jews, hatred of "degeneracy," hatred of women,, espousing violence against people you don't agree with, belief over science, et cetera. Hell, right wing terrorism is a greater problem in the US than muslim terrorism

There seems to be a misconception in the Christian world about the nature of reforming a religion. While the Lutheran movement is often seen as a modernization, also forcing the Catholic church to become more "modern" it was actually only re-reading the religious text getting back to the original message. "Modern" interpretations of Islam are not like post reformation Christians, they are more similar to 1300AD Catholics, fairly far away from the literal meaning of large parts of the scripture. Islam, getting back to the basic content of the texts looks very different form Christianity, the Muslim equivalent of the Lutheran reformation has already happened, the result was Wahhabism and Salafism.

well both reformation and wahhabism are satanist tools to destroy mankind so it checks out

The one on the left is if not an outright myth a statistically irrelevant outlier.
Probably not even Muslim anyway.

Differing pressures, I would imagine.

Islam came close to gaining the intellectual framework necessary to build an advanced civilization, as was CLEARLY displayed during their Golden Age. If they had continued along that path, they would likely have had their own Renaissance long before Europe did, and things could have been much different.

Unfortunately for the Islamic world, they did NOT continue to develop what they acquired from Greek literature. Religion trumped out intellectualism and they fell into decay, and so lost out.

Hell, they even had another chance to embrace intellectualism in the recent Arab Spring... but that failed also. It is heartbreaking, because we know that they have the ability to become a great people, but religious dogma just keeps chaining them to the ground.

I think one of the main reasons for this difference between the East and West (in the far past) is that the greed of secular rulers in the West overcame religious zealotry. Secular rulers desired to have more power than the church, and, over great periods of time, were actually successful in acquiring said power. This allowed secular interests to flourish over religious ones, and thus intellectualism began to blossom, bringing us things like the Italian Renaissance. Unfortunately for the Islamic world, their rulers were always inextricably bound to their faith, so no separated between the church and state ever really developed. Even today, the states are STILL theocracies.

Human greed can be a bowl of shit, but an idiot is anyone who denies that it has been useful in bringing about modernity.

The breaking point for imperialist christian extremism came during the incredibly brutal 17th century wars when mass murder, torture, superstition, witch trails etc reached a terrifying peak. After that the sensible people said fuck that, religion is an excuse for murder, sadism and power-grabbing so we got the Enlightenment when it was OK to be an atheist.

Islam never went through that cleansing - until now.

you must have graduated with a E then

Cousin marriages take off like 10-18 IQ points.

All the smart Muslims got out of the middle east too because they don't want to get bombed by the US government.

Precisely this:
Also, the extinction of the Caliphate, in 1924, making room for heterodox doctrines.

The attempt to implement progressivism - this mental cancer that plagues the West - had a considerable share of the blame, as failed miserably in improving the general standard of living of the population.

When abandoning the traditional principles of property and contract, family and religion, the leftism in the Middle East only caused disruption and social ruin, opening a vacuum to further dangerous ideologies.

>well both reformation and wahhabism are satanist tools to destroy mankind so it checks out

I literally love you

Nice modern revisionism, leftpol.

nothing else to say medkit?

Fuck off redit

>Ireland least consanguinous

Thats difficult to beleive but perhaps being isolated from invading ethnic groups helped.

Didn't the Arabs only get their science by plundering Persia?

This thread just got comfy

Inbreeding. Also fundamentalism as a reaction to colonial rule.

>as failed miserably in improving the general standard of living of the population.

That is because it is based in Marxism, which has an outward focus, as opposed to an inward one.

What I mean to say is that Marxism desires to redistribute the wealth to those who do not have it. Since the Western nations of the world are beyond a doubt the most wealthy, Marxists make it their primary goal to squander the wealth of the West by redistributing it outwardly, which happens in one of two ways, or both:

1. Internally, Marxists seize the wealth of those with even meager resources and redistribute it to citizens and immigrants around the nation itself. This takes the form of expensive entitlements that cripple the economy and remove any incentive for the impoverished to improve their own lot through work.

2. Externally, large amounts of money are seized and redistributed abroad. This could be in the form of foreign aid, wars designed to accomplish some objective of "equality," or any other means of wealth redistribution.

Marxists would claim that these efforts are designed to raise the quality of life of everyone, however, it never plays out this way, does it? No, what you get are increasingly shittier standards of living for the native population of any country whose population is having its wealth is seized and redistributed. Entitlements are breeding lazy and hedonistic narcissists, and mass immigration (and the associated costs like depressed wages, etc.) is undermining the hegemony/identity of established cultures, which makes things objectively shittier in the long run.

Marxism makes everything worse, always, regardless of whether it is cultural or economic.

The crusade was a defensive force
Also they attacked when the Fatimid destroyed the church of holy sepulchre
Then Saladin fixed Egypt

Arab racism, Arab Nationalism, Arab elitism.

Wahabis are purest form of cancer.

Except you can't even refute it so you don't bother. The Enlightenment was not an even process and every now and then christian fundamentalists rear their ugly heads as in some isolated pockets of redneck, knuckle-dragging USA. They would fit in just nicely amongst the sadists using religion to steal a rivals land during the 30 Years War or in Salem. Just cry WITCH.

But not to worry; they are going against history and are doomed to wither on the vine luckily.

>implying muslim science isn't still the most advanced

mongols and arabs made the ancient muslim world non white

>pakistan
>wahabis are purest form of cancer
lul what? I thought pakistanis were butt budies with the saudis.

>Arabs
>elite
wew

Muslim intellectuals

Elitism : the advocacy or existence of an elite as a dominating element in a system or society.

- the attitude or behavior of a person or group who regard themselves as belonging to an elite.

> o boy amerifat.

If I learned something from /sg/ it's that Saudis ruin everything.

They use their money and influence to buy our politicians and meddle with our internal affairs.

They treat our people poorly who work like slaves to build their cities and treat us like inferior 2nd class citizens. Some of our most hardworking people lived their whole lives in Saudi without any recognition or citizenship.

Yeah sure, we fucking love these Saudis. They are the most racist people on earth.

They ran out of Greek accomplishments to claim.

>MUH CRUSADES MEME

The Mongolian invasions did far, far more damage to their culture than any crusade ever did.