Would you say Brexit is

Would you say Brexit is

>A bigger happening than the 2008 crash?
>A bigger happening than 9/11?

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bigger than 911

NINE

no way. 9 11 was the biggest happening of this century so far

Yes
No

No. It needs more deaths. However next american civil war will be bigger than 9-11. Either that or Trump's assasination

No way. It's not a happening yet, but rather just an ensconsement of public opinion.

One of the history books to be sure, but not crazytown bullshit yet.

Still not relevant/10

According to this bitch it was a pretty big happening

BIGGEST
EVER

Yes
No

I can't wait for your next happening, Scottish independence.

Hrmmmm

Not sure Brexit would have happened without 9/11

>Believing the scaremongers

They're just desperately trying to get as much negativity out of Britain to encourage remaining EU member states to toe the party line and discourage any clever ideas about going it alone.

The two aren't even comparable. Hell, the crash in February of this year was worse. This doesn't even register as a sneeze.

Your currency value drop has been compounded by a relatively strong dollar but even that isn't something that's going to destroy Great Britain. The recovery will be slower because Pound Sterling traditionally drops in value in the summer though the Greek crisis last year was an exception (it's usually smart for British citizens buying their currency for a summer holliday to purchase just after Easter). The best thing you can hope for in the short term is another EU member formally announcing a referrendum, that will shake the value of the Euro a bit. On the Dollar front, confidence drop in the two months before the election, particularly if it's a close race.

>Pound slips 10%
>General market correction
It's fucking nothing so far senpai

It would.
Usually something special happens when politicians ditch the poor.

No it was not a bigger happening than 9/11 are you really that pretentious about the Brexit referendum

Until Article 50 is enacted Brexit isn't shit

Neither because nothing happened. Almost 52% of voters signalled that they would like to leave but that is by no means a guarantee that it will happen. Instead of initiating article 50, Cammers has left it for whoever is in power next to deal with. The next leader has to be serious about leaving otherwise the prospect of Brexit will fizzle away over the coming months as the EU drops the tough talk and makes a cosy deal while the leave campaign disintegrates and bickers internally. This is a serious constitutional issue and tbe media have been doing nothing but spouting memes causing unnecessary panic.

no and no, unless it leads to a greater happening it's not bigger than either of them.

I had that weird feeling on the Friday

Deffo impacted everyone involveddidnt feel like a business as usual. A lot of panic from the naive youth

Obviously not, retard.

Depends on the future.

Imagine if Brexit was the opening to the fall of the western society.

I can imagine the history books, Sup Forums would take the credits it deserve.

Brexit hasn't happened yet. You can have your happening when the ink is dry, not before.

no & no.

It's a massive chimpout by people who got out competed by polish no marks thinking they're owed a living just because they're English.
So they vandalised the economy and it'll take 20 years to fix.

Right so we should just screw the British working class because it makes middle class twats feel smug about themselves

>american civil war
This would be so fucking nice.

Getting out of the EU wasn't the answer. We've been fucked over far more by successive British govts than the EU.

If you want to say it's undemocratic that's valid, but the UK is gonna be bought and owned by corporations now it's vulnerable, how democratic do you think that will be?

It's fine to be angry at the state of the nation, but making important decisions while your angry is not a good idea. I hope you can see why.

It would be an unholy blood bath. Look at the horror a few ill educated towelheads can unleash upon the largest fighting force in the world. Now imagine replacing those towelheads with people who look like, speak the same language as and are able to easily interact and blend in with your army. Next, understand that they're much better educated and have access to many orders more information on how to cook up horrific improvised weapons as well as many being as well as or better armed than most Taliban fighters.

At least half the US military would desert overnight and large weapons caches of the kinds Afghan militants can only dream of would fall into rebel hands. If some general with a conscience or a gram of sanity didn't slit the Commander in Chief's throat within a week there'd be a Tomahawk through the Oval Office window with a goddamn Dixie horn attached to the front before the month is out.

>tfw i've wanted little more than this for the majority of my life
and for that exact reason it'll never happen

Imagine the lels if Sup Forums had existed during September 11...

That's probably the best summary of why American Civil War II isn't happening I've ever heard. Americans have the desire to murder the shit out of their government in their blood and the politicians know it.

Nice description of your country.

I think 9/11 is really something that will echo through the ages. Like, it was the opening to and defined the new millennia

Brexit isn't anything yet

2997 dead is as irrelevant as the United States of Blessed BurgerShekel.

the last one took 620,000 in the most conservative estimates, new data suggests closer 750,000 dead.

thats an equivalent of roughly 6.2 million people today, or about 10% of all males between the ages 10 and 44, or 2.5% of our entire population.
more americans died in our civil war than in ww2, almost twice as many actually. In fact theres only about a 20,000 difference between dead in the civil war versus ALL american wars combined (assuming you use the 620,000 number I mentioned before, which is probably an underestimate.)

I honestly don't know how Japan thought it was a good idea to attack a nation willing to cause this level of bloodshed among its own people.

samurai know no limits in honor

Too much anime and not knowing just how treacherous the Anglos can be when it comes to warfare.

>Ramadan

9/11 and 2008 crash were bad things. Brexit is a good thing

They agreed to be a testing site for hitting real cities. In exchange we got to rebuild shit and buy electronics and cars from the.

>treacherous
I wouldn't characterise American actions as treacherous. Treachery is attacking an opponents ships in harbour without a declaration of war. Firebombing their capital to shit is an expected consequence of attacking a nation with a huge manufacturing infrastructure and near unlimited resources.

it's a symptom of 9/11.

Without 9/11 there's be no refugee crisis and that was the collosal straw that broke the camels back.

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Treachery is lining a bunch of old ships up in a harbor after knowing the enemy is coming, having an

>oops! lol!

moment in communicating this to the military in spite of having already cracked the code and in spite of having been warned by your allies, all just so that you could have an excuse to join another stupid European war. Maybe it turned out for the best and maybe not, but that's pretty underhanded.

That doesn't really make sense. An aircraft carrier in the 1940s maintaining radio silence was pretty much impossible to find on the high seas except for by luck. Wouldn't successfully repelling the attack have generated about the same amount of sympathy from the American people to support striking out across the Pacific?

Brexit is a hiccup compared to the housing bubble
Not worried. I just invested, in fact

>A bigger happening than the 2008 crash?
Yes, probably
>A bigger happening than 9/11?
No, you can't really compare this to a violent terrorist attack

> A FUCKING PLUS SIGN weighs in
> Actually knows what he's talking about in the fiscal and monetary fields
> everything went as expected

No, you need to really shock and provoke in order to spur a complete shift in public opinion. It's why the founding PNAC documents called for "a new Perl Harbor" in order to get the American people to go along with more wars of conquest. It took 9/11 to make that happen.

I still have emails from my very peaceful mom all about how excited she was over the TV footage of the "smart bombs" doing surgical strikes on all the terrists that in reality had nothing to do at all with even the official narrative of who was responsible for 9/11. And she's not the only one with such stories. Even I decided I'd strap a big American flag to my car and fuck everything fuck these fuckers and fuck 'em hard right after 9/11.

>posting FTSE-100 to prove his point

hahaha

Fair enough. Your location gives you a much better perspective on the American people than I can get from across the Atlantic.

Looking at foreign market indexes would be even more damaging to the scaremongers because they show a bigger drop in other European markets.

In Zbigniew Brzezinski's good book, "The Grand Chessboard," he academically outlines the need for conquest over the Middle East and confronts the problem of how to get the American people to go along with it. He suggests such things as humanitarian concerns, which is where we get the "Responsibility to Protect" doctrine of bombing the snot out of other countries in the name of protecting them.

But that's not really enough. It falls as flat on its face as logical arguments about Islamic female genital mutilation. Nobody cares. What do people care about? They care about getting triggered because somebody used hatespeech on twitter.

if sterling falls the ftse *should* go up; the fact it has in fact dropped means that the real value of the index has dropped like 7 or 8% from a global outlook.

I would not be suprised if the ecb is manipulating the pund value

Since I was an adult for all three, I'd say nope.

9/11 literally changed the world in a single day.

The 2008 crash is basically the big Happening that triggered many of the events that caused the Brexit.

And so was 9/11.

2008 fucked the economy, 9/11 destabilized the world and made Islam a threat.

Brexit just seems like a symptom of that.

Yep

Australia wasn't really affected by the 2008 crash, so I can't common there, but in no way was Brexit a bigger happening than 9/11. It's probably the third biggest happening this century after 9/11 and the Iraq War.

Maybe the British working class should stop being useless entitled shits and learn some skills which are actually in demand in the 21st century.

Oh, and my personal experiences from when they happened - 9/11 was literally a week of being in a daze. You didn't know WHAT was going to change, but you could tell EVERYTHING was going to change (and it did, in a huge and horrible way).

The 2008 crash was like the flare going up letting you know that Europe was about to eat shit and that it was going to fall apart and that various far left or far right factions were going to rise in Europe, and possibly the U.S.

But it wasn't an immediate happening. It was like someone slowly turning on the tap.

Brexit is like the water starting to really gush out now.

The next happening - Maybe Trump, who knows...That could be 9/11 tier...or could be Gavrilo Princip Meets Franz Ferdinand tier.

No and no. It's too early to know brexit's full impact but I doubt it will be a bigger event than the 2008 crash.

Or maybe they should close their borders and kick out competing third worlders?

There are no new skills that are needed for chavs.

As the New Statesman pointed out earlier this year - In this Brave New Neoliberal future, the white working class is dead, and needs to leave. Their are too many of them. They either adjust to the new normal of developing world status lifestyles, or die.

Or, you know, use democracy incorrectly to pull a Brexit, which will upset a lot of people.

i remember the 2008 crash but what happened on the 9th of november?

Really makes you think

I think you're being a bit too sensible, 24601. Have you skipped your medication?

Do not leave your house. A medical drone has been dispatched to assess your emergency needs.

It got chilly.

Oh, and nothing since 9/11 has had the sort of stomach dropping "oh fuck" feeling as the second plane hitting, let alone the towers coming down.

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Yes
No

That's to be expected since Brexit has raised long term investment questions. However, recovery is still progressing faster and from a much less dire starting than the slide in both Pound Sterling and market value that occurred in the first 11 days of February this year. Today is disappointing because the Asian markets are generally shitty on a Monday morning but it's already levelled out at a much smaller drop than occurred on any day at the start of February.

>bigger than 08
No. We haven't seen the end of two business days yet. People need to fucking relax. The same shit happened to the pound when Soros shorted the pound.

The second plane really did it. """somebody""" really understood how to do terrorism that day.

I came. Thanks.

9/11 was like the first action packed scene that set the stage of the film version of this century.

thankfully in the climax of the film Mecca gets nuked.

I was working in a shitty tech startup 20 miles from London. When the second hit, we had the radio on. All news sites crashed instantly. I fucking ran through the streets to a department store to find a TV. People stood there like zombies.

Everything was totally fucked for the new weeks. I'll always remember the papers being about ten sheets thick. Everything stopped.

edgy

>A bigger happening than the 2008 crash?
No
>A bigger happening than 9/11?
No

Brexit bigger for the EU than 2008 or 9/11, but not for the rest of the world

The "real" value of our global markets was higher than it should've been. People forget that DOW gained 500 pts in the week previous to Brexit, too.

That's fine and all, but socialism is still retarded and will bankrupt the country, Brexit or no.

You're comparing big market slides taking place over several days to a single galvanising event.

It's like comparing the steady weight gain of your mother over the last three decades to that one week in August last year when she was constipated and deducing that the biggest cause of her enormous ass is not shitting enough when the reality is that her near constant intake of soda and fried carbs is much more significant in the long run.

This. Uncertainty makes people freak out and they all the get the same idea at once: "Oh shit everyone else is gonna sell too!".

It was like, midnight here.

I was on IRC (kek) talking to Americans. Flicked on the 24 hour news channels when the first plane hit.

>muh small plane
>muh BIG plane
>"oh noes, white supremacists are at it again"

Then when the second plane hit, everyone lost their shit.

By the time the towers were down and their were conflicting reports about multiple hijackings everyone was in full panic mode, convinced everyone, everywhere was getting destroyed.

I think this movie probably did the best job of conveying the craziness of that night (day for the yanks).

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I was living in London a few months after that, and traveling through Europe was so tense and strange. Everyone knew a real war was coming, but no one wanted it.

It's been a remarkable chain of events since the first domino fell.
This will have another huge fallout.
There will only be more and more happenings as shit spirals out of control.

>The "real" value of our global markets was higher than it should've been. People forget that DOW gained 500 pts in the week previous to Brexit, too.

An excellent point that has also been overlooked.

what exactly did brasil exit?

Probably, but if you don't protect the peasants, they end up revolting. It never goes well.

Also, another happening that gets no mention, but was a big deal at the time and really set the tone for the decade to come - Pic related.

Even though similar stuff had existed, this was like a new level being reached. Kids now wouldn't even blink, I guess.

It's typical to run the markets up in advance of a volatility event. No doubt everybody who's seen it happen 100 times before figured they'd ride the wave.

That's the feeling 2016 is bringing.

There was the massive happening of 2001. Then there has been many big happenings and small happenings, but they're coming at a faster and faster rate, closer and closer together and each one precipitates the next. Like watching a fire burn.

I wonder what's going to finally explode...or how it will be put out.

The fire rises.

No, and No.

When it falls the time to remove shitskins is here

Oh, and a couple of other, important ones - The London Riots and Katrina. Both examples of the government failing to live up to the faith people had put in them.

You sort of got the message; "You're on your own, and we're not really on your side".

All these things coalescing has been pretty crazy.

I would wager the Migrant Crisis and Merkel's boneheaded handling of it will rank just as high as Brexit or the '08 crash in the long term.

I'm not sure how people will judge the Arab Spring or the way Obama and France and Britain handled Syria/Libya. Maybe they're too close to really call.

I remember at the time, Iraq was sort of a "meh" happening. It didn't really get crazy and demonstrate it's importance until the occupation was underway (and going badly).

Brexit is smaller than 9/11 by far. Smaller than the 2008 crisis.

Think about it this way. Which event guaranteed 15+ years of middleeastern turmoil and government upheaval to the point that very few countries in the ME are functioning, economic migrants have fled to Europe's open door and now terrorists are knocking on your door?

Which event guaranteed that half of the countries in the EU would be subjected to crippling debt and unemployment and revealed that these countries would only be slave to the better off countries in the EU?

Would the brexit have happened if it were not for these two events?

It's probably for the best that after hours trading data isn't widely available.You might have seen some crooked fuckers unloading before the results were announced.

Wasnt that "what is the eu?" thing bullshit

I think that's why the brexit and other exit noises are important victories. There's no immediate danger, but it does serve to try to release the pressure in a more controlled and sensible manner.

When they hit the Pentagon, that's when I remember shock turning to cold fear.

Yeah, United 93 brought it all back, I was literally shaking in the Noo York ATC and Air force scenes.

That little qt blonde: 'Oh my gosh...'

Soon brother.

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Which Western Democracy is going to implode first?

Germany? (pls not Britain)

I wish periscope, twitter and so on were around then. So many lives would've been saved and a lot that didn't make it would've shared their last moments

lol wtf underage b& nigger brexit is jack shit to anything.

Fucking the crash for oil is biger than this shit. ISIS is bigger then this shit

Coincidence?