I ask, cuz I’m not sure

I ask, cuz I’m not sure
Does anybody make real shit anymore?

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>implying Kanye has ever made anything of musical or lyrical substance, or "real shit" in his imbecilic slang throughout his whole career

Now answer me this question, OP. No, really. I'm actually serious, and I demand an answer. What the hell is the point of making these insipid threads, OP? What do you hope to accomplish in such a pathetic display of mediocrity that it leads you to making such a poorly made, crude and juvenile scar on the skin of Sup Forums? Does this pleasure you, OP? Are you appropriating the lethargic atmosphere of society as to create a physical representation of our failure? Is this your contribution to the river of history? Throwing pebbles made out of feces and hoping to float on top of them? I'm utterly disgusted. Dissolved paint to feed the fishes elude your lies into a state of carelessness. You need to be banished to Summit Cuicide immediately. Shrew.

Is this pasta?

>Is this pasta?
Is THIS pasta?

No, seriously, I'm asking. Every time I make a long post here, someone asks this.

>Every time I make a long post here, someone asks this.
Maybe because you're an autist

it is now

>Every time I make a long post here, someone asks this.
That's because you're a gifted writer. You have a gift.

YOU have never made anything of substance . So you do that first before you have any room to judge Yeezy

for real, you should make pastas for a living or even write a book

AND IF I FUCK THIS MODEL

OP here.

Clearly for you to say Kanye has never made anything of musical or lyrical substance that you have never even given him a solid enough chance to listen to a full album. So go do that and report back.

BOW IN THE PRESENCE OF GREATNESS

Do you need to be a chef to know when a meal is unhealthy, tasteless and total shit? Do you need to be a filmmaker in order to know when a movie is horrible, in terms of presentation and narrative? Have you ever had a simple opinion in your entire life? Why don't you tell this to every critic in existence?

I listened to everything except Late Registration, and it's all banal garbage. Kanye only explores the surface level of genres, yet people praise him for his innovation and consider him the David Bowie of rap. He heavily relies on samples in each of his albums, besides 808s (which is average compared to Art Pop musicians such as Bjork and Kate Bush, who can easily write deeper, more intense and complex works), which is a cardinal sin in the art form. Liberating beautiful works of art and misconstruing them in order to create your music is not original, intelligent or creative. As a result, MBDTF is an absolute failure of music. Not only that, but Kanye's lyricism is mediocre at best, containing pastiches of pop culture references mixed with pseudo-philosophic ideas of divinity and omnipotence. He can't imagine any abstract world with characters of any depth. The Life of Pablo as a whole demonstrates his unimaginative mind.

Let's face it, Kanye is the most "normie", inessential artist of the planet. The fact that Sup Forums praises him over other artists and bands is proof that this board is full of plebs. Don't act like "oh, I don't like him, stop gravitating me into that planet! Sup Forums isn't a single person." It doesn't matter. The point is, he, for some ungodly reason, is Sup Forumscore. His presence seeps into every chart on this godforsaken board, and he manipulates idiots to bend to his black will. You're all shared crystals, trapped inside Kanye's amulet. Kill yourselves.

If I ever see a Kanye thread again, someone will die.

There is no other artist who has had the commercial success he has while at the same time going against the grain of the industry at every level. Looking back every single style he made was copied into oblivion to the point where all his albums now sound like radio hits although at the time they sounded off-the-wall.

What music do you listen to? I gotta know lol this is hilarious

Scrimshaw does...

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first post best post how can OP possibly recover

Check these out; they're some of my favorite rap songs.
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youtu.be/PiwRfk077yg (Rock version, I like this more)
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As for , I'll address you later.

yes

I’m currently in the fetal position. So he’s saying Kanye actually SUCKS? This whole time I thought he was GOOD. I’m crying and can’t stop. Please tell me this is a joke someone else swore to me Kanye was good. Ugh I’m so embarrassed.

You remind me of Unty.

>replying this autistically to a lyric from over 10 years ago

Get that stick out of your ass buddy. Yes, bending samples to your will is creative.
>Bjork
>Kate bush
Disgusting. Just listen to the music and put your black hate boner away.

I still don't know anything about the Montie/Unty debacle. Can someone please explain?

Not autistic. Never been diagnosed.

And then whenever you complain about his excessive sampling some fucker always goes "LOL you dont like sampling? Why don't you go back to the 1960s old man XD." I think sampling can be done beautifully and creatively, but Kanye's use of it doesn't fit that bill. His good taste in music doesn't save his subpar songwriting.

>Disgusting.
What's it like having an IQ below 60?

>Come home Mona Lisa you know you can't roam without Caesar
Genius

>you have a low iq because you don't listen to bjork and Kate bush

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>keep it 300 like the Romans

Thank you. Also, consider this. What if every single person he ever sampled a song from never existed? How talented would Kanye really be now?

Thinking Kanye is good and Kate Bush and Bjork are bad means that you have a low IQ.

The REAL question is, what if Kanye tried to make music with no artists existing before him?

R E N T F R E E

Still waiting on your reply for

I think Kanye and Bjork are genius. I think Kate Bush is okay

Oh, yeah... I knew I forgot something.

>There is no other artist who has had the commercial success he has while at the same time going against the grain of the industry at every level.
I would have almost believed you if you said "hip-hop" artist instead. The fact that you insinuated that there was no other artist in general now angers me. What are David Bowie, Prince, Trent Reznor, and even Michael Jackson to you? All artists who've reinvigorated their sound countless times over and over, pushing new innovation with catalytic ideas and monstrous production techniques? Hell, even OutKast did "quirky hip-hop" long before Kanye even attempted so. Observe the introspection of Atliens and the eerie, bleak vibes of Aquemini, up to the rave/electronic/alternative influenced Stankonia. Then, the monolith of Hip-Hop, Speakerboxx/The Love Below, which truly pushed more envelopes than Kanye wished he did with MBDTF, was a masterpiece of 2000s music. OutKast has proven much more innovative than Kanye ever did; almost everything Kanye did, OutKast explored more thoroughly than he did, even Art Pop and Industrial.
>Looking back every single style he made was copied into oblivion to the point where all his albums now sound like radio hits although at the time they sounded off-the-wall.
HE made? Or was it Outkast? And plus, if your music can't stand the test of time even after many attempts by lesser artists to liberate your sound, then your music was inessential in the first place. OutKast still sounds fresh today, and even with the advent of Post-Grunge, Nirvana's music continues to be as abrasive and epic as Alternative Rock can be. The problem with Kanye lies in the fact that his music is still heavily grounded in the Pop Rap genre, the most disposable subgenre of Hip-Hop. Soon, his popularity will start to fade, as someone younger and more superior will take his place. Kanye is now destined to fade into irrelevancy, and maybe that's for the best.

>your first paragraph
The only one of those artists who has had the commercial success that Kanye had was MJ. I’m not saying that is the end all be all but you just argued a whole paragraph of artists who don’t even apply to what I said.

>second paragraph
Go jerk off Andre 3000. He would give kanye more credit musically than he accomplished, even though OutKast came first and did pave the way.

>Soon, his popularity will start to fade, as someone younger and more superior will take his place. Kanye is now destined to fade into irrelevancy, and maybe that's for the best.

They said this in 2004, then 2005, then 2006, and 15 years later we are still here with Kanye as the biggest thing in music still.

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this real
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>The only one of those artists who has had the commercial success that Kanye had was MJ
What? Trent Reznor and Nine Inch Nails might not be as commercially successful as Kanye, but David Bowie and Prince are literally some of the best-selling artists of all time. Bowie has sold over 140 million records worldwide, and Prince has sold over 100 million. They're on the same level, if not more, than Kanye. Also, they've each gotten a Diamond album (U.S.) in their discographies. Has Kanye even received such a certification?

And I'm not THAT huge a fan of OutKast, though I do enjoy them a lot.

It’s pretty much impossible to sell anything close to that now because nobody buys albums. It is all streams. So no he doesn’t have that certification but he would have at least one if this was 1985 and not 2018.

How many streams do those artists have? Zero? You sound retarded.

I can just smell the ass burgers in this thread

Alright, he does have quite a lot of streams, but I thought we were discussing commercial success in terms of records sold.

Dick. Like I said, records sold. If I knew he was talking about streams, I wouldn't have argued with him in the first place. Stop getting inside my cranium, you murky snail. Eat the salt I provided for your brother.

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Also desu dude if you don't like yeezy you are probably autistic

But even normies don't like Kanye.

>If I ever see a Kanye thread again, someone will die.

hopefully u

You don’t get Grammy awards without normie approval.

Is that why Brand New never earned Grammies for their masterpieces of Emo?

And anyway, Kanye West primarily makes music for normies, but quite a bit of them hate his music just as much as autists do.

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Not him but Kate Bush is miles better than West.

Kate bush is a woman

Automatically worse than Kanye

yeah but you gotta dig real hard to find it, and they dont usually make music for long. Hard being real in a fake world

>not fantasising about fucking a female artist while listening to her music
The only way this opinion is good is if you're actually homosexual

I don't think you understand why Kanye is praised . He's not the most skilled rapper or the best lyricist but he's constantly pushing the envelope with his music , introducing new trends and sounds...he may not dive deep into the genres he's exploring but his music works as a template , something other artists can listen to and build on . When Dre made the Chronic it wasn't praised because of Dre's skill , he's mediocre at best, it is praised because of the way it influenced the music of his contemporaries for many years , same goes for Kanye .

Oh, I see...You just wanna fuck her. That makes sense.

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YEAH I'M ROCKIN CHEWBACCA

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This is why every time you post, people wonder if it's pasta.

Yeezus. You would get yeezus. Either that or 808s.

Wow.. You americans really like to suck this man's dick. In Europe no one listen him. Except for the really young that like everything coming from the US. Hell, Justin Bieber was more famous here than him..
Ah, naturally, when I say Europe, England is excluded.

THE ONE CHIEF ROCKERRRRRRRRRR NUMBAH ONE CHIEF ROCKEEEERRRRRR

SLIGHTLY SCRATCHED YOUR COROLLA
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OK I SMASHED YOUR COROLLA

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I see. But it's not that good enough to be pasta material. It's just a simple response summarizing my view of Kanye's artistry, or lack thereof.

You just diagnosed yourself with that first post. Yikes.

HURRY UP WITH MY DAMN CROISSANTS

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Music critics are a failure. What makes this catastrophe even more catalytic is that the feline faggots that are critics gave this furball rave reviews. In fact, it's completely unfair how people like Kanye get universal critical acclaim for making in reality mediocre rap albums, when a band like RHCP, who've made much more original compositions get little to nothing at all. What the hell is this? You can't even crawl under the ladder of subjectivity. It's a fact that RHCP has 100 times the talent of a shitty rapper with generic lyrics referencing pop culture drivel mixed in with pseudo-philosophy, and that can't even make a song without heavily deriving of others work. RHCP is much more original. They blended Rap and Funk with Alternative, Punk, Metal and Art Rock like no other band of the 80s, and all they get to their legacy is the ill-fated Nu Metal genre. You cannot argue anymore that this song is good. It's literally unfinished. There's not even a coherent beat to transcend the song into multiple dimensions and levels of depth. He couldn't even be bothered to change the key and tempo of the songs he sampled. All he did was just glue two songs together like a kid trying to fit an E on the W slot, added a bit of rap to it, and called it a day. The laziest song ever conceived. Music, you need to stop playing with us. If you actually have a shred of artistry, you would praise superior artists and bands and STOP SUPPORTING CAVEMAN IDEOLOGY. KANYE WEST IS A DISGUSTING CRETIN WHO NEEDS TO STOP EXISTING.

FUCK THIS BOARD.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha so fucking funny. You’re hilarious man.

Screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it
I guess every superhero need his theme music

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Absolutely love to knock this cunt out someday

Who? Kanye? Me too!

Lame

What did he touch you?

I really wish Kanye never existed. What kind of a stupid name is Kanye anyway? It's an anagram of Kenya. Stupid Kenya.

>david bowie and prince were not as commercially successful as kanye
look man i love kanye but you cannot insinuate they are not at least in the same ballpark

Dude, come off it. Kanye is 40 years old. Fourty. Years. Old. Do you even realize how old that is in Hip Hop? Such a level of maturity is not suitable for the youth of such a genre. He's reached his artistic peak (if you could even call it a peak; I use such a term very loosely here) with the failure of MBDTF. After that mental breakdown, his next album will be the last. Soon, he will fade into irrelevancy the more he ages. Which is good. Rap music was never meant to be future-friendly anyway.

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If you don't stop bullying Ye, I'm finna bool

Once again they’ve been saying that since he was 30-35. He is on MJ level now. He is not your average rapper. He is literally the biggest music star in America

Means “The Only One”

>He is literally the biggest music star in America
No, Imagine Dragons, Twenty One Pilots and even Migos are much bigger than him now. His most viewed video isn't even one of his (E.T. by Katy Perry ft. Kanye), nor has it even surpassed 500 million views. Twenty One Pilots and Imagine Dragons have consistently surpassed him in streaming numbers and video views. Hell, they each have more radio airplay, too. When was the last time you've heard a Kanye song played on the radio? 2016? Face it, he's not as popular as he used to be.

Please take me away from here...

its just harder to find now

Kanye West turned marketing into the essence of his art. All great phenomena of popular music, from Elvis Presley to the Beatles, had been, first and foremost, marketing phenomena (just like Coca Cola and Barbie before them); however, West turned that into an art of its own. With Kanye West the science of marketing becomes art; art and marketing become one. There were intellectuals who had proclaimed this theory in rebellious terms. West was, in many ways, the heir, no matter how perverted, of Andy Warhol's pop art and of the underground culture of the 1960s. He adopted some of the most blaspheme issues and turned them upside down to make them precisely what they had been designed to fight: a commodity.

You sound retarded lol. His overall prowess is bigger than Migos 21 pilots or imagine dragons will ever hope to be. They would admit it too.

Oh, you mean his ego? As in, his unwarranted self-importance that's so high aliens would have to look up to find it? Yeah, maybe they would admit it. But commercial and cultural success? No.

You really think those bands/artists have more cultural and commercial influence than Kanye?

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Fucking checked

quints of purest truth

Nice

Yes. They do, you fucking idiot. Imagine Dragons revitalized Indie Pop/Rock and invigorated it in the context of the mainstream. They, along with Nirvana and Arcade Fire, are the three bands that cultivated Alternative/Indie Rock to live in relevance.

As for Twenty One Pilots... pic related.

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I honestly can’t tell if this is supposed to be satire. Thanks for the laugh either way

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Rare kanye pepe