Muslims don't tend to convert to Christianity or anything. Containment of the Middle East has failed and western countries like France have youth that are up to 25% Muslim.
Walls are no longer going to fix anything. Our best hope is to use science and atheism to show them once and for all that Allah is not real.
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(srs) Atheists are way better than Muslims, and Catholics.
Islam is basically atheistic just with a bunch of retarded traditions. It's the perfect sidekick to atheism actually. Both support an increased state.
>use science and atheism to show them once and for all that Allah is not real.
>science and atheism
>not money and degeneracy
no religion can sustain an assault of good, comfy living and pleasures derived from material possessions
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Yes, muslims are widely known to back down in face of well-mannered, fact-based argument. Atheism spread because Christianity gone soft, and was no longer held the cultural power after the conquest of the New World. Suggest you read up on biohistory.
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>we just accept the foreign scum being among us
>the only problem with the foreign scum id what superstition they subscribe to
Fuck off. You're as bad as the christtards who think if we just convert these filth they'll suddenly stop being savages.
Fuck gaytheists....muh Dawkins
They have a religion dipshit.
Atheism = lack of religion
Atheist don't support anything, it is a term used to describe an absence. You can't unify under nothing.
>Our best hope is to use science and atheism to show them once and for all that Allah is not real.
Good luck with a scientific proof that god doesn't exist. Retard.
>so obsessed with islam it's turned you retarded
21st century western world in a post
God doesn't exist. The fact that the bible is repeatedly proven wrong proves this. The fact that there are a shit load of other stupid ass sky daddies prove this. The fact that the earth is round proves this. The age of the earth proves this. It's been proven over and over. You little cry babies are just so deeply in denial that we have to keep trying to prove it. Then when we do, again, you change what you say god is, again.
>You can't unify under nothing
tip that hat some more. Islam is just an authoritarian retaliation against the fallen man ideology. Since Islam and atheism both reject this principle, they have each other as allies in the race to the bottom as man has no longer a reason to self regulate, but to be further regulated by a an authoritarian state.
They worship a god you stupid fucker. Case closed. Not atheistic.
Muslims largely don't believe their own bullshit. Not really.
But there is an understanding that they will all kill one another if they admit they don't believe in Islam.
How do you fight against that?
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>implying the church isn't an authoritarian State.
>Our best hope is to use science and atheism
no, it will take too long. it took christians centuries to start ignoring the violent nutty parts of the bible.
since we have a globalised society the islamic violence is not contained in muslim countries (although a lot of it does occur in them)....
the best we can hope for is that muslims reform their faith like christians did and just ignore all the old violent parts.
This is a starting point: samharris.org
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I don't have to go to church and I can tall church goers and their crooked, grabby priests to "fuck off".
> The fact that the bible is repeatedly proven wrong proves this.
What does a random book written by men have to do with this?
> The fact that there are a shit load of other stupid ass sky daddies prove this.
Are you referring to the fact that various cultures have their own myths and stories about religion? Pretty much the same as with the bible argument, unrelated to the topic. If anything, it shows that all over the world humans started to believe in god, which would hint towards his existence (though again, not in a scientific way).
> The fact that the earth is round proves this.
How so?
> The age of the earth proves this.
How so?
> It's been proven over and over.
What has been proven? That the bible and other religions books are fiction? Has nothing to do with god actually existing or not.
> You little cry babies are just so deeply in denial that we have to keep trying to prove it. Then when we do, again, you change what you say god is, again.
Cool. Where's your SCIENTIFIC proof?
As I said, you're a retard.
I always said that islam is cancer, it's a blatant fact. I'd take 1 million christians, buddhists or hindus over 100 muslims, ANY-FUCKING-TIME.
>"I think Islam is the greatest force for evil in the world today. I've said so, often and loudly." -Dawkins.
Allah is just another variant of the Jewish false-god Jehovah
Oh no, not that fucking nun meme again.
>Our best hope is to use science and atheism to show them once and for all that Allah is not real.
>implying
How's that working out for you?
Muslims are having more children than atheists are.
That is all that really matters in the end.
If it's ever proven that God doesn't exist muslims would literally explode all over the world.
Not a good idea lad
Atheism is the suicide pill of society.
Muslims won't listen to reason in the slightest, and you think they'll listen to the violent tribal moon god + his pedophilic goatfucker "prophet" they've been brainwashed to die for since birth destroyed in rational debate?
>Islam is basically atheistic
>American """"intellectuals""""
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>atheists in charge of being socially conservative on matters such as immigration and miscegenation
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This.
Arguing with believers is useless. One needs an epiphany to really think things over, rational thought does not compute.
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Ok so your not even religious. You just believe in some entity for no fucking reason what so ever.
The arguments I gave where against Christianity.
Why don't you disprove that there is a flying noodle monster then? Since we are just gonna sit here and do the whole disprove shit I have no proof exist bullshit?
Your argument is baseless.
You have tossed out the only ground you had to stand on, witch would be the thousands of years of religious philosophy.
You are not being constructive.
You are a little snowflake who can only operate in a manner that is rigged.
Get fucked
Dude islam assumes you are a muslim from birth and by not being explicitly muslim you are denying Allah and deserve death.
Don't mind him
It's a massive strawman
>read thread title
>think to myself "finally someone suggesting true militant atheism, killing everyone religious starting with muslims"
>OP's solution is "to use science and atheism to show them once and for all that Allah is not real"
What a let down.
Muslims are not capable of having a logical and reasonable discussion about religion.
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>first world nations have the highest rates of atheism and agnosticism
>import fob Muslims into the EU
>their children fall out of faith as they realize the stories they were told make no fucking sense
>Islam problem solves itself
>one religion that I find wrong proves that God does not exist
>other religions being wrong according to my interpretation proves that God does not exist, and eliminates all claims that a Supreme Entity might exist
This is your logic
>point
>your head
hat tippers, everyone
The hive of Western degeneracy will swallow Islam and spit out what every Muslim fears. The more Muslims push into the West, the more they'll regret it. Want examples? Go here, reddit.com
We have become the Jew Sup Forums.
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No, muslims who are genuinely disenfranchised and disillusioned with islam, when they get to a christian**** nation, tend to convert to christianity and avoid the ghettos.
There's more than you think but it's still not enough.
>>their children fall out of faith as they realize the stories they were told make no fucking sense
This is false.
Second generation muslims are more radical than their parents.
The only thing that you fedora tippers are doing is destroying western civilization.
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Atheism is actually what tolerates islam here in Europe. If anything Christianity is the way to destroy islam, the only way it always had.
Most 'atheists' aren't atheists. They're global warming cultists.
>Islam is basically atheistic just with a bunch of retarded traditions. It's the perfect sidekick to atheism actually.
Except Islam has a "god" that everybody worships, Allah, which makes it the opposite of atheism.
Religious retards have no cognitive skills and that proves it.
>Muslims are not capable of having a logical and reasonable discussion about religion.
The same goes for any other religion, since belief is the opposite of logic and reason.
>If anything Christianity is the way to destroy islam
Muslim women tend to stay at home and raise children. They have enough time to teach them their culture and religion, therefore what you describe is not happening.
>BR
>preserving anything but a guide to bring a professional nigger online
Can anyone tell me how they deal with not believing in an afterlife. Isn't that sad? You know won't see your dead friends, pets and family again? How do you cope with loss? Just a question. It seems like a really sad way of life.
actually you're forgetting the options of genocide, mass sterilisation and conquest with forced conversion
if giving up our own values is the only way to destroy islam then it is a pointless endeavor
athiesm is no better than islam, in fact its worse
This is freemasonry, not christianity.
>Christianity is the way to destroy islam
wrong. because if the christians are allowed to have their myths taken seriously, so too are the muslims..
its this whole "all religions are equal" bullshit that is the problem
what we should be saying is "all religions are equally bullshit"
I actually greatly support you, either way they are going to Hell. Since my religious figures won't allow me to try to convert anyone anymore and I don't want to risk beheading, fine then let them burn.
I absolutely support you to try to convert Islam but remember that you failed in Afghanistan when the Russians tried it so learn from that.
>No argument
Try harder my burger friend
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>Isn't that sad?
No, it's just how life is. Things live then they die. What eould be sad is lying to yourself and pretending after you die you'll keep livjng *somehow*.
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It has more to do with moral and values than myths. Atheist are cuck who islam and christianity on the same level, that's why islam is allowed to spread in Europe. I'm a christian mostly because I believe in the values of the gospels, not because I believe in wizardry or whatever, to me it's just fables to pass on good values, which atheist share too. But they're cucks.
The burden of proof is yours, not mine. You claimed that there is scientific proof that god doesn't exist, go ahead and provide it.
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So basically you need god because you are a little bitch who fears death.
There could be a guiding force in the universe, never said there couldn't be. I am saying that none of the religions on earth are true. None of them. None of the gods you have heard of are real.
What is even the point you are trying to make??
Aren't you sitting here telling me that we need religion, then useing the fact that religion is fucking stupid to argue my points??
Like I said, you just change your definition of god every time you stupid fuckers are proven wrong.
Ya tip tip tip all you want. There is no god. Get bent.
And what the fuck is your point?
What I said was pretty clear, worshiping a god = not atheist.
>Where is the PROOF that unicorns don't exist, you faggots are all about scientific proof but you can never give me a straight answer to this question
>check and mate
This argument in a nutshell
>kid grows up in a western country without being made to feel like an outsider
>eventually adopted into new culture
All you have to do is two one or two into your social circle. White wash and assimilate them in small groups.
>proving my point
norway what is this
No it isn't.
The burden of proof is always on the person who is trying to prove the existence of something.
Funny how you stupid fuckers always forget that when it comes to god.
Just because you dismiss all religions as being false for some reason, doesn't mean God does not exist
All civilization has been built on with religion as the fundamental stones. It doesn't even need to have a cosmic God as the head. Look at China and their cultic worshipping of Mao
Even if it seems to go beyond logic of you, it doesn't necessarily have to be false.
A God could be beyond human comprehension of logic
And it's atleast better to follow Pascal's Wager than being at the risk that a religion might be true, and you spend the eternity of your after life being assfucked by demons with 20 inch flaming cocks
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>Still no argument
Ya, so your assumption of God is baseless. You believe only because you are afraid of what it means for there to not be a god.
It isn't "beyond my logic" There could be a god. But there has never been any proof. So everyone who follows any God, is following fairytales.
If there is a God, it has nothing to do with any Earth religion.
Burden of proof is on both
Science cannot prove nor disprove God
Both claims for and against God requires exceptional evidence, and saying that God does not exist because eg. the Bible is wrong from your interpretation is not exceptional evidence
we can determine good values based on reason and logic without having to resort to iron-age tribalist hoodoo.
Islam is a lot more dangerous at the present because a large portion of its adherents take the scriptures seriously to the point that they are willing to commit violence in the name of their faith.
christianity is not a problem now because the catholic inquisition is over and you don't have cathars & protestants being murdered like they used to
I hate muzzies as much as the next guy
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It's almost like atheists believe in some magical force for fairness and goodness. Fucking faggots.
Not happening. Not even in your dreams. Faith is the opposite of science. That's the whole point.
You can't. Islam will always be there and there is nothing that can stop it.
Christians has no influence on us because we love Jesus Christ as a prophet. We don't allow gay people to make fun of Jesus Christ like how they do it in Christians countries. Christians don't care about their religion anymore.
Atheists have zero effect on us. We don't accept degeneracy. These people stupid, They think everything was just there with no reason or explanation.
Moon god? what the fuck is that? how can we reason and make rational debate with idiots like you with zero clue?
and I know Sup Forums hate us so rational discussion is useless
so I will just go play The Rise of the Tomb Raider and leave this here to make you suffer more.
>Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth.
edition.cnn.com
One more thing. Oman is Islamic county where all people from different faiths live together including atheists.
We don't hate westerns.
There's neither any proof that God does not exist
No observation of the universe point out that there is or is no God
There's only theories about that there could or could not be
>magical force
yeah science is a magical force, the internet is powered by magic
wew lad
>And it's atleast better to follow Pascal's Wager than being at the risk that a religion might be true, and you spend the eternity of your after life being assfucked by demons with 20 inch flaming cocks
This is one reason why religion is so appealing to the human mind: fear. Feelings will always be stronger than thinking. And if you do need to think, well, let's just assume that God is behind it all, because the human mind also likes easy answers.
The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
When atheists stops being so anti-natalist and starts having babies get back to me.