Right after the Pope said this, the Orthodox Church in America made this declaration. Coincidence?
>The statement outlines the Orthodox Christian’s "sincerely held religious belief" that marriage is "a lifelong, exclusive relationship between one man and one woman," and therefore any sexual relations outside of natural marriage "is immoral, and therefore sin."
>The encyclical continues, "We believe that God created the human race, male and female, and that all conduct with the intent to adopt a gender other than one’s birth gender is immoral and therefore sin
>Even more explicitly, the document states, "Marriage can only be between two people whose birth sex is male and female.
The pope is just asking people to forgive the gay preists rapeing children. Seriously fuck this guy, im converting to orthodox
Cooper Ramirez
He says to apologize to "offended" gays, so it might be broader than that.
Ayden Mitchell
>In 2014, addressing a question raised on the family, he argued that church doctrine can change over time, and "doesn't depend on the spirit of time but can develop over time." "Saying that the doctrine will never change is a restrictive view of things," Marx later clarified at a Vatican press conference. "The core of the Catholic Church remains the Gospel, but have we discovered everything? This is what I doubt."[12]
>We have to respect the decisions of people. We have to respect also, as I said in the first synod on the family — some were shocked, but I think it’s normal — you cannot say that a relationship between a man and a man, and they are faithful, [that] that is nothing, that has no worth,
>He said it was up to the state “to make regulations for homosexuals so they have equal rights or nearly equal . . . but marriage is another point,” adding that the state “has to regulate these partnerships and to bring them into a just position, and we as church cannot be against it
>The history of homosexuals in our societies is very bad because we’ve done a lot to marginalize [them],” he said, adding that as a Church and as a society “we’ve also to say ‘sorry, sorry.’
Hunter Morales
bump
Evan Green
this
Leo Sanders
Gotta love this guy too, the Pope's right-hand man, and a very close friend of Benedict
>In April 2012, the election of a young gay man who was living in a registered same-sex partnership to a pastoral council in Vienna was vetoed by the parish priest. After meeting with the couple, Schönborn reinstated him. He later advised in a homily that priests must apply a pastoral approach that is "neither rigorist nor lax" in counselling Catholics who "don't live according to [God's] master plan".[38]
>Schönborn is a member of the Elijah Interfaith Institute Board of World Religious Leaders.[31]
>Elijah Interfaith Institute is a nonprofit, international, interfaith organization which was founded by Rabbi Alon Goshen-Gottstein in 1997.
Juan Cook
>exclusive relationship between one man and one woman its in our constitution how can we stand for him
Andrew Gonzalez
Orthodox is the only true church.
Mason Butler
>On 6 May 2001 he became the first Catholic pope to enter and pray in a mosque, namely the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus, Syria. Respectfully removing his shoes, he entered the former Byzantine era Christian church dedicated to John the Baptist, who is also revered as a prophet of Islam. He gave a speech including the statement: "For all the times that Muslims and Christians have offended one another, we need to seek forgiveness from the Almighty and to offer each other forgiveness."[92] He kissed the Qur'an in Syria, an act that made him popular among Muslims but that disturbed many Catholics.[186]
Anthony Collins
You'll take it lying down?
David Walker
>meanwhile in turkey
Jaxon Morris
That newspaper is like citing Sup Forums for news. No real Turkish people read it.
Daniel Howard
Also
>Daily mail
Tyler Parker
Basically, if you don't conform to more liberal views, your religion will die. Christianity has already done this a load of times throughout it's existence. It's why it is tolerated in Western countries. This is in stark opposite to islam. Which refuses to change in the face of advancing knowledge and understanding.
Nolan Wood
Christian denominations that conform to the liberalism die pretty rapidly. Look at the Episcopal Church: female ordination, gay marriage, and so on, and it is killing it.
David Sanchez
>Christianity has already done this a load of times throughout it's existence. Also, what are you referring to here?
Jayden Thompson
>Current Year >Still practicing the most faithless and paganistic branch of Christianity
Xavier Myers
That's the point, as religion is seen more backward everyday due to its refusal to change policy and belief, it will have to compromise. Christianity has given up so much ground simply to stay alive it is slowly becoming irrelevant.
Why do the old and New testament exist?
Gabriel Lewis
>That's the point, as religion is seen more backward everyday due to its refusal to change policy and belief, it will have to compromise. Not the Orthodox Church. We don't compromise, heck even our art is still dimensionless.
>Why do the old and New testament exist? "Testament" is just an alternative translation of "covenant". If you're asking why the new covenant exists, it is promised in the old covenant.in such places as Jeremiah 3:16 and Jeremiah 31:31-34
Alexander Cook
Why the fuck did we get such a weak Pope at a time when we most needed a strong one?
Joseph Allen
>Why do the old and New testament exist? That is one of the worst arguments I've ever heard
Robert Brown
He never said forgive rapist priests.
Evan Gonzalez
Because he's Peter the Roman.
Sebastian Hill
That's because it's a question user. Did you see the question mark? That indicates it is a question.
Elijah Thompson
>Papists at it again
Ryder Green
Fun fact. Christianity is basically New Testament so what are you alking about?
Jason Williams
You're a bit out of date there my non-EU friend. In these modern times we suffix a sentence with a question mark to indicate that we don't expect others to come up with a answer we can find satisfying. Now if you want to actually ask a question, just boot up Siri on your iPhone and ask it where the nearest leather club is.
Welcome to the future, The Age Of Millennials.
Jackson Anderson
Protestcucks are much worse.
Michael Hill
Lutherans mostly have gay marriage.
Brody Brown
Thanks to cardinals like these
William Ward
BASED Orthodox
I fucking love that church. Pic related - blessing Russian jets before they fly off to bomb the shit out of ISIS
Seriously considering converting to Orthodox; I don't even go to church (I'm Protestant) but I'm so tired of the rot and decay of values in the "modern" church
Dominic Bell
>2016 >being cucktholic
Owen Jackson
Cardinal Marx Karl Marx
Just a coinkydink!
Liam Lopez
tfw he was kicked out because he refused to lick feet of rapefugees
based Ratzinger
John Cooper
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Angel Rivera
Good idea - the Orthodox Church , particularly the Russian, is also Based as fuck when it comes to Islam. Unlike the pathetic roll-over and die Christian Cuckery in the West.
Traditionalist Lutherans are still staunchly opposed. Other that tradition it's comparable to orthodox.
Bentley Butler
man i feel like the whole world has gone completely lunatic since 2005/2006.
if the world has degenerated this much in only 10 years, i cant imagine how it will look like in another 10 years.
Jack Wright
>Traditionalist Lutherans are still staunchly opposed. You mean denominations that split in the South and are purely local?
>Other that tradition it's comparable to orthodox. Mm, no. Orthodox theology is Patristic, Lutheran theology is Reformed. Although traditionalist Lutherans do share something with Orthodox when it comes to perspective on morality.
Masonic false pope is masonic Where my pope Benedict bros at?
Any catholics on here redpilled on masons infultraitING and ruining the Catholic Church from within?
Carson Scott
Poor Poland, so righteous.
Easton Gutierrez
This is Benedict's protege
John Harris
>Any catholics on here redpilled on masons infultraitING and ruining the Catholic Church from within? Google "Propaganda Due"
Eli Nguyen
We don't condemn gays, only the action itself. It's not necessarily a sin to have sinful thoughts, we are all tempted by Satan. Orthodox Christians with these afflictions can still lead righteous, chaste lives.
Tyler Parker
maybe he can tell the africans to use condoms next
Christopher Reed
When you or your wife have a disease like HIV,you can use condoms according to catholic church.
Jack Walker
Source?
Cameron Moore
Being tempted to do gay things doesn't make you gay, that comes from the liberal meme 'born that way". Father Seraphim Rose was actively homosexual before he came to the faith, but after he did, I highly doubt he'd approve of being considered gay.
The idea of gay as an attribute started during the Enlightenment, when clinical psychology was brought in to replace confession, and instead of homosexuality being an act, it was something you could show 'symptoms' of (these 'symptoms' later became deliberately emulated in the gay community, after their identity developed, as a calling card--the lisp, for instance).
The fact is, being tempted to do homosexual things doesn't make you a homosexual anymore than being tempted to commit adultery makes you an adulterer. These are temptations, not who you are as a person.
Julian Thompson
There is no dogma against using condoms in the Orthodox Church, unless you do it to maintain a childless marriage, or your bishop doesn't allow it. Coitus interruptus was never a sin for us. But you can't use any birth control that can endanger what's post-conception.
Aiden Morales
Actually, he just finished off a nice kielbasa and was licking some of it on the Qu'rān.
Parker Walker
Ominus Dominus Keep Tapco Off Of Us
Ryan White
I can guarantee it that polygamy, incest, post-birth abortion will be common practice in next the decades. Polygamy and incest are the easiest to legalize in practice. Polygyny is already practiced in certain parts of the Middle East and African countries, as well as being acknowledged by certain Western nations.
The case for incest and polygamy is simply utilizing the same reasons to legalize same-sex marriage. No one can argue against it if they support same-sex marriage. Post-Birth Abortion will be accepted in society once soft-eugenics is reinstated and the life or death of a person is determined by their genetic potential.
Nathaniel Campbell
The case will just be "current year"
Evan Sanchez
Sorry I think I was wrong.
>Coitus interruptus was never a sin for us
What about Onan case from the Old Testament?
Mason Reyes
This pope is going to end up destroying the church in the eyes of any man with an ounce of self respect
Jeremiah Carter
Don't forget zoophilia.
Nolan Smith
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Jaxon James
>Christians should apologize...for following the Bible
>What about Onan case from the Old Testament? That's considered to be about Onan shirking his duty to provide the wife of his brother with offspring, since his brother did not.
"If for a certain period, you and your wife have abstained by agreement, perhaps for a time of prayer and fasting, come together again for the sake of your marriage. You do not need procreation as an excuse. It is not the chief reason for marriage. Neither is it necessary to allow for the possibility of conceiving, and thus having a large number of children, something you may not want." -Saint John Chrysostom
Chase Cox
Islam is doing a lot better than Christifagnity right now
Logan Perry
Yep
James Scott
I agree with you, that's why I said "Orthodox Christians with these afflictions" instead of "Gay Orthodox Christians". I had never heard that about Fr. Seraphim though.
Eli Fisher
K guys, you're probably not the ones to ask, but I want to know what the penalty is for a Catholic to convert to the Orthodoxy. I have had fucking enough of this bastard.
Alexander Taylor
>What about Onan case from the Old Testament?
Onan wasn't condemned for pulling out. He was condemned for refusing the tradition of impregnating his dead brother's wife.
Brandon Miller
>if you don't conform to more liberal views, your religion will die
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Oliver Ramirez
Catholics think the Orthodox are fully valid in all Sacraments (though we don't return the sentiment), so no practical penalty.
Ryan Allen
The Pope is talking about "offended" gay people, according to the article.
Charles Hill
This gay pope should watch out. After all he is comming to Poland this summer.
Jack Price
The Poland that gave us this guy ?
Brandon Watson
Now read about the context, nigger. John Paul the second was a saint and a smart one. Take your weak trolls to Sup Forums.
Anthony Bell
What context?
The Quran says in it Christ wasn't crucified and isn't God, what context justifies this?
Charles Sanders
Ok this guy needs to stop read reading the Bible backward.
Levi Barnes
He believed in religious Eclecticism. He talked with hindus and muslims as there is only one God but with different names. Instead of promoting degeneracy and sucking them off, he talked to them about mutual respect and ways to understand eachother while keeping our religions and cultures separate.
Michael Robinson
>Right after the Pope said this, the Orthodox Church in America made this declaration. Coincidence? >>The statement outlines the Orthodox Christian’s "sincerely held religious belief" that marriage is "a lifelong, exclusive relationship between one man and one woman," and therefore any sexual relations outside of natural marriage "is immoral, and therefore sin." >>The encyclical continues, "We believe that God created the human race, male and female, and that all conduct with the intent to adopt a gender other than one’s birth gender is immoral and therefore sin >>Even more explicitly, the document states, "Marriage can only be between two people whose birth sex is male and female. >lifesitenews.com/news/orthodox-church-in-america-aims-to-protect-itself-from-lawsuits-with-strong
NOT MY POOP
Jason Myers
Ah, so he got a major imam to kiss the New Testament. Right? Right?
Jackson Martinez
I think he's citing Catechism, not Scripture.
William Jenkins
Sure. The pics obviously got removed from PC internet, but you can still find them in books.
