/lang/ - language learning

>What language are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Find people to train your language with!

Check the first few replies ITT for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides. /lang/ is currently short on those image guides, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!

Previous thread:

Other urls found in this thread:

4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_Sup
duolingo.com/
drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk#
fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/oldfsi/index.html
memrise.com/
lingvist.com/
clozemaster.com/languages
tatoeba.org/eng/
forvo.com
effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
lexicity.com/
cosmogyros.tumblr.com/post/108962232110/huge-new-language-learning-collection
dliflc.edu/resources/products/
en.childrenslibrary.org
hellotalk.com/#en
italki.com/
mylanguageexchange.com/
interpals.net/
gospeaky.net/
speaky.com/
polyglotclub.com/
lang-8.com/
goethe-verlag.com/
languagetransfer.org/
babadum.com
context.reverso.net/translation/
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i.imgur.com/zAN5eMU.png
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i.imgur.com/mNvOu9i.png
i.imgur.com/zhwCKlo.png
i.imgur.com/AKboS8t.jpg
i.imgur.com/IQW5sKT.png
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i.imgur.com/IgPQdj8.jpg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_orthography#Sound_to_spelling_correspondences
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkspraak
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Germanic_language
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovio
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interslavic_language
alarichall.org.uk/teaching/modern_icelandic.php
twitter.com/AnonBabble

>Language learning resources:
4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_Sup Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

duolingo.com/
>Duolingo is a free language-learning platform that includes a language-learning website and app, as well as a digital language proficiency assessment exam. Duolingo offers all its language courses free of charge.

>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30+ languages.

drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk#
>Google Drive folder with books for all kinds of languages.

fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/oldfsi/index.html
>Drill based courses with text and audio.The Foreign Service Institute (FSI) is the United States federal government's primary training institution for employees of the U.S. foreign affairs community.These courses are all in public domain and free to download.Site may go down sometimes but you can search for fsi on google and easily find a mirror.

memrise.com/
>Free resource to learn vocabulary, nice flash cards.

lingvist.com/
>It's kinda like Clozemaster in the sense that you get a sentence and have to fill in the missing word, also has nice statistics about your progress, grammar tips and more information about a word (noun gender, verb aspects for Russian, etc.)

ankisrs.net/
>A flash card program

clozemaster.com/languages
>Clozemaster is language learning gamification through mass exposure to vocabulary in context.Can be a great supplementary tool, not recommended for absolute beginners.

tatoeba.org/eng/
>Tatoeba is a collection of sentences and translations with over 300 hundred languages to chose from.

radio.garden/
>Listen to radio all around the world through an interactive globe

forvo.com
>Has pronunciation for lots of words in lots of languages

effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
>Check out information about languages and their difficulties

lexicity.com/
>An invaluable resource for comparative language study as well as those interested in ancient languages

cosmogyros.tumblr.com/post/108962232110/huge-new-language-learning-collection
>A very extensive language learning collection for 90+ languages.

dliflc.edu/resources/products/
>Similar to FSI, drill-based courses with text and audio issued by the US government.These courses were made for millitary personel in mind unlike FSI.

en.childrenslibrary.org
>Lots of childrens books in various languages, categories 3-5yo, 6-9yo, 10-13yo.

hellotalk.com/#en
>The app is basically whatsapp, but only connects you with people who are native in the language you are trying to learn. It also has a facebook type section where you can share pics and stuff too.

italki.com/
mylanguageexchange.com/
interpals.net/
gospeaky.net/
speaky.com/
polyglotclub.com/
lang-8.com/
>Few more language exchange communities like Hellotalk:

goethe-verlag.com/
>A mostly free site which offers audio and drill like exercises for 40+ languages.

languagetransfer.org/
>A free resource with recordings to learn a language.

babadum.com
>Flash card game with a focus on vocabulary.

context.reverso.net/translation/
>A website like Tatoeba (also has a Firefox extension!)

LANGUAGE-SPECIFIC IMAGE GUIDES/WALKTHROUGHS:

>Arabic
i.imgur.com/GaPEIBr.png

>Farsi
i.imgur.com/zAN5eMU.png

>Finnish
i.imgur.com/thYqRE9.png

>French
i.imgur.com/UpCEFWl.png

>German
i.imgur.com/ZTrFFlB.png
i.imgur.com/CzpgmUP.png

>Irish
i.imgur.com/OR95Lah.jpg

>Japanese
i.imgur.com/Ur8PzMZ.png
i.imgur.com/InA8n4n.png

>Mandarin (traditional characters)
i.imgur.com/mNvOu9i.png

>Russian
i.imgur.com/zhwCKlo.png

>Spanish
i.imgur.com/AKboS8t.jpg
i.imgur.com/IQW5sKT.png

>Swedish
i.imgur.com/zjjjxct.png

>Turkish
i.imgur.com/IgPQdj8.jpg

首先为中国

How do french pronunciation?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_orthography#Sound_to_spelling_correspondences
this might be helpful if you know IPA.

neat picture

vocaroo yourself

What's that language called that's supposed to be mutually intelligible with germanic languages? It was made by some group of people and they had different ideas of how it should be spelt so there are different variants of it.

maybe this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkspraak ?

see this too: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Germanic_language

met someone in game who speaks french, tried speaking to him and got my point across.
felt good man, wish I was surrounded by french speakers so I could pick it up faster.

How many new words do you guys learn per day? I've got 20 for Japanese currently, thinking about increasing it.

yup definitely folkspraak. Thanks!

I kept adding more cards to my long term learning, and the problem is now some days I have like 170 cards pending review in Quizlet. So if you are using Anki/Quizlet or whatever, just be aware how much you add because it can get overwhelming.

To more directly answer you question, yeah you can do more than 20 per day, but slowly increase.

Ĉu estas samideano ĉi tie? Dum longa tempo mi ne afiŝis ĉi tie.

Folkspraak would be interesting to learn. Apparently there's a language that is mutually intelligible to slavic speakers, but I've never heard anyone confirm it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovio

lol i just remembered those Sup Forums learns a language thread

there's also interslavic, which is supposed to be more natural to learn or something.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interslavic_language
i'm also kind of interested in how intelligible these conlangs are.

Suppose that I'm B2/C1 in italian and I want to learn Spanish for work reasons. How quickly could I breeze through the grammar? Obviously the grammar will be different with rules like subjunctive so I know it can take at least a year to be able to speak without any stuttering

>listen to German radio
>they're just talking about the US all the time

really?

I want to learn second a language but I don't know which one to learn

It'll be difficult to stay motivated if you don't have a genuine interest in the language or its culture. Nothing sticks out to you?

probably French, it's just south of you and has plenty of material, pretty easy, and French people like to help foreigners learning French

Lernu Esperanton.

Esperanto is literally useless

Not really, but I'd like to learn a western European language that is not too dissimilar to English. Don't want to try learning something too difficult as a second language.

I loathe French, I was forced to do two years of it at school with a teacher who couldn't teach.

Deutsch mein Freund

that's because you're the best & most important country in the world m8, obviously

Should I learn Malay?

Dutch is pretty nice (to me anyways), grammatically similar to german, but simpler - I wouldn't say German is hard though.
Norwegian seems like a decent language to learn (I haven't had difficulty with it but I haven't learnt much of it either), and the vocab is similar to Dutch, though it's not western.

yes

Forget about you French teacher and try to approach the language yourself. You'll probably see the good things about it soon.

what happens then?

Bokmål/Danish is basically as much related to Low German (W. Germanic) as Norse (N. Germanic)

the criteria of them claiming to be N. Germanic is to avoid admitting being cucked so hard

the black man lived in peace

Can I teach English if I have a Cambridge Proficiency cert?
Or do I need a degree from a university?

German is so hard.

best chinese language?

If you're a beginner to language learning, French would be easiest for an English person. As, Says, start from the beginning for yourself. French is actually really nice.

Or you could go down the tried hands tested route of learning Latin first. This then makes any other European language trivial.

Tried-and-tested*

I don't know if anyone is learning Icelandic, but I came across this
alarichall.org.uk/teaching/modern_icelandic.php

Tries to mimic the Michel Thomas method. For free

I can tell you this; as a Dutch German and English speaker it's looks like a mishmash of Germanic languages and it's certainly not understandable if you don't know most Germanic languages.
At least half of it looks like Scandinavian and if you ever try to use Folkspraak irl I can only assume you would look like a retard having a stroke.

tldr learn a real Germanic language

Italian grammar is pretty straightforward to me. Because you'd get a lot of the vocabulary down quickly, I'd focus on reading/listening for a while to get a feel for Spanish grammar. You'll know what's being said even if you don't understand the rules. After you've got the feel for it go ahead and get a grammar book. It can be overwhelming to articulate why the grammar works before seeing it work in practice. Again, I say this because you already have an extreme advantage with vocabulary.

Why do you people want to learn Folkspraak. Interslavic etc. ? It seems useless to me because if you spoke it to natives they will think you're retarded. I guess you could use to learn languages easier in the future, but it's quicker to just learn a real language

>170 terms awaiting review

Looked like almost entirely German to me

Tocarian

I want to kick back up the Pan-Germanic Imperium that Hitler wanted in 1928 before he started changing his racial views

Hey lads, just ordered my first book in German.

Enjoy. I can barely read an English book anymore my attention span is so low.

What's it about? Something an Socialism?

>"my first book in german"
>chooses fucking spengler

You're not going to have much fun with this one. He's using very high tier german. Doubt you'll understand much.

Thanks user, so I'll focus mainly on vocabulary and then grammar when I hit a roadblock

read marx instead

Prussianism and Socialism, read a chapter of it in english 2 years ago
I'm going to be having wiktionary open the whole time, besides I like the complexity of it. When I'm done it'll be how Algebra 2 equations are easy now even though I had trouble in algebra 1

Do any of you people find yourself in a setting where you are using multiple languages daily?

My settis:

Working language is norwegian.

We speak japanese at home.

I regularly speak with my family members and buddies in native finnish.

Then I use english to gather information and interact on the internet.

If there is anyone out there with a similar lifestyle I'm interested in hints about how to get focused on a single one language. I feel like doing all this at once is a bit confusing. How do you concentrate on a singe subject. Thinking about enrolling on courses....

>we speak japanese at home
did you marry a nip or something

Well, if you're a masochist you should consider reading Jahre der Entscheidung first if you're not familiar with his ideas and the historical context.

Preußentum und Sozialismus is mostly his opinion on a highly specific topic.

Sorry I meant to say thanks and I'll be sure to focus on listening and reading while picking up the vocabulary I don't know before checking out the grammar

I admire that dedication. That's how I learn too. Enjoy!

Did 3 Pimsleur German lessons last night, d-did I do good /lang/?

Yes I married a japanese national and so far I've been thinking about it this way " if something is not broken don't fix it"

Looking for serious advice on multiple languages though.

I can read and understand german pretty well(far from complete control.), also follow on with some basic french.

I have Der Untergang des Abendlandes Volume 1in English, still getting through it but planning on finishing it by the time this comes in. I've also read some Julius Evola which was a contemporary and he even mentions spengler in his book on the pre-war germany.
Yeah it's going to be tough, probably going to take a couple weeks per chapter and it's a short book

很好,加油

honestly sounds like a bit too much, I've never done more than two a day and I tend to review them more than once in a day

how long've you been at it with German?

3 years, though it's been awhile. Went on Krautchan a bit, now I only use it for listening to Rechtrock. Translated the song "Stimmen im Wind" on my own.

I'm taking beginner spanish for health professions and for some reason I'm struggling. It should be easy since I took 2 years of span in high school but I can barely tell the time and date now.

I took some Spanish in high school and now, years later, don't remember much. Two years of Spanish isn't very much though, you'll learn where you were pretty quickly doing self study.

>Did 3 Pimsleur German lessons last night, d-did I do good /lang/?
It's tempting to go faster than one per day because Pimsleur is such a long process at that rate, but I think instead of doing more lessons you should try to maybe read or do grammar studies or something else instead of more lessons. Stick to one per day. But, yes, good job for studying!

>Arabic
>i.imgur.com/GaPEIBr.png

Did you make these? If so, I don't want to edit them without your approval, but there are tons of resources on Arabic grammar. Faruk Abu-Chacra's "Arabic: An Essential Grammar" is an excellent starting point for beginners, it's well written and explains the grammar in an easy-to-understand way. William Wright's "A Grammar of the Arabic Language" is the holy book of Arabic grammar, but targeted more towards advanced learners. As for dictionaries, the compact version of Hans Wehr's Arabic dictionary will be an invaluable companion for learners.

These three books should, in my humble opinion, be mentioned in any infograph on learning Arabic.

Anyone know where I can find the transcript for Pimsleur Spanish?

>starting to feel like I'm wasting time learning my meme language
I just want to learn something that has a non-shady presence on the internet

Has anyone been able to realistically travel the world while teaching english?

>250 due cards

>Did you make these?
Nah, they're all made by other posters here, then linked in the copypastas in the first few posts of every thread.

if you feel like helping, then i'd say go for it, and either edit the original, or make your own. it's nice to have more content.

on a trustfund or if you're a major hustler I can imagine it. But usually you at best break-even and even that can be hard. By a hustler I mean a good looking young guy who can sweet talk older women into being a very overpaid private tutor that gets tipped while spending 12 hours or so a day going from family to family tutoring

not easy but it's kind of like anything else

Hi there. I'm learning English by myself.
I think I'm about pre-intermediate.

so jealous of English learners

I'm learning German and German media is absolute shit. There's only a handful of good German films and zero good German series.

Wouldn't you need to speak their native language fluently? I'm having flashbacks to my high school Spanish teacher that couldn't speak English very well.

I watched The Same Sky on Netflix and it was good

looks decent, I'll check it out

but i have one problem, I think I won't be able to speaking good.
Now I'm learning grammar and listening through cartoons, but i don't speak

a speaking partner could help

do you have discord?

Yeah, but I dont want to talk to someone, that's my problem for now

it's a major leap but one thing lucky about it is that English speakers are pretty forgiving over mistakes and most deal with foreigners speaking English all the time

Try and find a partner and don't worry about sounding stupid

Also if anyone is insteresting in Russian I can help(but only through chatting)

Oгoнь пo гoтoвнocти!

Read comics and then start reading children books. Once you can read literature it will all be worth the effort.

I'm going to have a minor in Spanish, about thirty percent of the way to fluency if I had to put a number on it.
I just know it's a cliche, but I'm 22 and really want to see a lot of the world before I'm tied down by a grill or worse

Makes sense. I respect that. I'm pretty wealthy and /foreveralone/ so travel is really easy for me.

I come from a family where vacations were to a beach in Florida or a lake in Arkansas or something (from Houston). Never been out of the country and have a desire to see the rest.

where do I pirate assimil courses

some guy on youtube says the second edition of assimil courses are the best, where can I find that

>and zero good German series.
Are you fucking kidding me?

Medicopter 117 is a timeless classic.

Great. Travel provides a wider perspective that is incredibly valuable for later life, especially in business which is so highly globalized now. I attribute my travels when younger with aiding a lot of my successful international work. Also never say "I'll go there later" because, for example, there are parts of indonesia I would no longer go as an American that was able to ten years ago. So you if get a chance to go someplace, take it, in case you can't (or probably shouldn't) go later.

what line of work are you in? Would love to spend a few years working in another cunt

try the pirate bay / other torrent sites maybe? also see the /t/ thread linked earlier, some of the torrents there should have some courses in them.
i also know libgen has a ton of assimil stuff on it, just the books though. wouldn't know where / how to find a specific edition though.

I'm in manufacturing. Maybe you could get an international internship in your field of study over a summer? I took a German kid in for two months a few years ago.

>Maybe you could get an international internship in your field of study over a summer?
I'm Not a terrible idea, I'll look with my university, I go to Sam Houston if it helps

Not that guy you replied to, but I'm also at SHSU. I don't know of a whole lot of travel opportunities at Sam. Closest I know are some study abroad flyers I've seen on walls at the CHSS and Evans and that our e-sports team got funded to go to South Korea.

Yeah I just looked at their study abroad (or two haha) programs and the only one that'd apply to me is the Spanish language one for Costa Rica. But it'd be cheaper for me to finish school here desu and then see what my options are.

If your school isn't helpful in that regard, consider finding something on your own. The German student contacted me directly, then arranged with his school to have it be an internship. So you could maybe decide on a country and industry you are interested in, and then contact the right person. Easier said than done obviously, but possible.

Thanks for the insight
There's just only so much time in our lives and so much to see and learn. I want to have an educated opinion on things that matter, and that's tough to do when you can only see things from one perspective

Such a confusing phrase. It is not and was never used in the Russian army. The meaning is furthermore unclear. It's only good as an Overwatch meme.