Is 4'33" music?"

Lucas Baker
Lucas Baker

Is 4'33" music?

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Jacob Reyes
Jacob Reyes

yes

Caleb Garcia
Caleb Garcia

no

Christopher Scott
Christopher Scott

maybe

Jeremiah Smith
Jeremiah Smith

hell yes

Nathan Flores
Nathan Flores

I don't know

Jackson Gray
Jackson Gray

yes
anything between 4'33" and Merzbow's pulse demon is music, anything that's beyond these isn't

James Cooper
James Cooper

can you repeat the question?

Connor Lopez
Connor Lopez

p∈(0,1)

Jayden Cruz
Jayden Cruz

Sure why not? It's not something I like to listen to but I don't give a shit if you do

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

gimme essential albums that go beyond these

Michael Kelly
Michael Kelly

No, it's a height and a Chadtier height at that

Nicholas Ortiz
Nicholas Ortiz

How do you argue that it is music?

Dylan Evans
Dylan Evans

Bull of heaven I guess

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

That there's sheet music for it.

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Elijah Evans
Elijah Evans

people will argue that it's art/a composition, but not music

Asher Walker
Asher Walker

but not music
how do you know?

Xavier Butler
Xavier Butler

when I first heard of it i thought it was 4 feet 33 inches

Colton Collins
Colton Collins

I think the argument that makes it "music" is all of the accidental sounds are created in the audience, the ambiance or some bullshit.
Whatever, it's a meme, and I don't mind that it exists.

Michael Wright
Michael Wright

Is a car an athlete?

Isaac Watson
Isaac Watson

Open audacity and make a 10000 Hz Square wave for 4'33"

Nicholas Barnes
Nicholas Barnes

Not an argument.

Carson Kelly
Carson Kelly

Is non sequitr rhetoric an argument?

Logan Barnes
Logan Barnes

Music is the arrangement of sounds. One extreme of sound arranging is to mandate that no sound is produced.
The better question is
Is 4'33" a worthwhile piece of music
I'd say no, but it's good as a joke.

Josiah Campbell
Josiah Campbell

It's a publicity stunt and it's working to this fucking day

Lucas Young
Lucas Young

i don't know but its probably now about blowjobs

Joshua Adams
Joshua Adams

Is it a sign of good art if people are still arguing about it years later even after the artist has long died?

Juan Brooks
Juan Brooks

yes, but that's not the question

Anthony Russell
Anthony Russell

I was making a piece of art, not attempting to argue a thesis. Jeeze

Camden Reyes
Camden Reyes

4'34"

Christian Price
Christian Price

Reminder that if you're remotely challenged by this piece of music you are a fucking brainlet, this shit is from the 50's guys, fucking come on!

John Rivera
John Rivera

of course.

Jeremiah Parker
Jeremiah Parker

No it's a stupid trick.
Notice how this dipshit isn't known for anything else besides his cheap gimmick.

Anthony Kelly
Anthony Kelly

Notice how this dipshit isn't known for anything else besides his cheap gimmick.
wrong

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

Music: the combination of sound and silence
433: pure silence

yeah...no

Noah Ramirez
Noah Ramirez

I mean when Cage originally performed it, he managed to produce sound without doing anything. He did not play a note on his piano, but the audience went into an uproar. He DID play music, he played a haphazard and raging audience, made them shout and scream, by not doing anything. It's not about the piano. It's a score where the resulting music is different every time and gets varied responses from the audience... it can be choral free improvisation in one town, and meditation in another.

Dominic Collins
Dominic Collins

I like listening to the moans of a bitch taking my cock, is that music?

Aaron Russell
Aaron Russell

Absolutely!

William Scott
William Scott

people in the audience: you played yourselves
t. John Cage

the sweetest music known to man

Levi Wilson
Levi Wilson

4'33" is the idea than the ambient sound around you can be just as interesting as music. Its an idea rather than a musical composition.

Kayden Hughes
Kayden Hughes

youtube.com/watch?v=-LDX7_wSXLI

Aaron King
Aaron King

its silence

Matthew Richardson
Matthew Richardson

lol what about this youtube.com/watch?v=I2wtmQkvX7A or his prepared piano pieces. If you think he isn't known for other things, you really haven't been paying any attention

Noah Garcia
Noah Garcia

kek

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Easton Evans
Easton Evans

Top Kek

Jayden Young
Jayden Young

4:33 isn't pure silence and it's not supposed to be

Wyatt Robinson
Wyatt Robinson

4'33"
literally king of manlets

Anthony Perez
Anthony Perez

Please tell me we had the same professor today

Mason Bailey
Mason Bailey

so close

Jason Hughes
Jason Hughes

It's performance art, not music. If you want to "listen to 4'33", literally just cough randomly and fidget around in your chair every 2 minutes inside of a concert hall and you'll have the exact same experience.

Sebastian Morgan
Sebastian Morgan

It's not music.
Music is the arrangement of sounds.
Music is the harmonic arrangment of sounds.
No.

Noah Howard
Noah Howard

Music is the harmonic arrangment of sounds.
no. "Harmonic" is not a requirement.

Music is an art form whose medium is sound and silence.

Cameron Taylor
Cameron Taylor

yeah because it is recorded and the sounds of the room and usually the street are recorded. The piece is not about silence but about a live field recording because then performance was always mutually inclusive with the music itself

Bentley Thompson
Bentley Thompson

A definition of music is that it's organised sound. That includes silence; rest notes for example are still notes and an arrangement of music. So yes, it's music. If you fart into a microphone, record it, release it and say it's music, then it's music. It's not very good music however.

Dominic King
Dominic King

Oh I missed the point I think.
This user has it right probably.

Aiden Hernandez
Aiden Hernandez

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