Is there such a thing as a pro gun leftist?

Why is it that seemingly anyone who subscribes to any type of leftist ideology is anti-gun?
Since the left is supposedly all about the rights of people, why do they wish to disarm the people leaving them open to oppression?

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I'd consider myself leftist on some issues and am not anti-gun.
Sam Harris owns guns and is kind of a leftist.

I think in the age of identity politics though, people try hard to be the opposite of whoever is on the other side of the political spectrum, so I think some people are anti-gun just because the right is generally pro-gun.

Read some books nigger. Of course leftists are pro-gun. Sjw "democrat" faggots are not leftists since they have never opened a book, exactly like you nigger.

What is Bernie Sanders

He's staunchly pro gun and is happy to argue in support of this. Piled a whole heap on Hillary during their debates.

Scene from a 60's movie called The President's Analyst:

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Of course. Only the brainwashed masses think it's a good thing for the government to have an absolute monopoly on violence.

Huey Newton actually

If a leftist is pro-gun it is for themselves, often via an authoritarian proxy, but no soup for you.
This is because you can't be trusted to do the things they project on everyone else, who are too stupid to know they are not worthy.
Oh, and running dog proletariat...or something.

How the hell are we going to murder those neo-liberal bastards in Congress without guns? Can't have a violent communist revolution without some good weapons.

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Jim Webb is the closest I could think of, but I'm not sure he qualifies as "left."

>Bernie Sanders
>pro gun

Are we just talking liberal here? Most communists and anarchists aren't anti-gun, because they support violent revolution. Visit /lefty -- pol/ and ask

Few leftists are anti-gun, whatever that means. Most simply feel semi automatics are too lethal for the general public to own.

>Horsey

If you believe semi-automatics are too dangerous for the public to own, your anti-gun.

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I think bazooka are too lethal for the public to own but I've got nothing against bazookas.

My god you're an idiot. Many NRA members actually support some gun control, and some Democrats have mentioned repealing the Second Amendment.

Probably because modern Western leftism was a memetic weapon fathered by American acronym agencies to fight Communism with. After all, which movement would an average liberal support, the one asking you to put your life on the line or the one asking for their dignity instead?

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George "The Self-Described Democratic Socialist" Orwell. 1984 is something that high school libertarians latch onto.

great not-an-argument

Again, Sup Forums, most communists are anti-gun control

Socialist Yugoslavia had gun laws as loose as the US and on top of that had something like the US national guard that some 10% of the population were a part of and which allowed it's members to keep the weaponry(ak and grenades) and armor(vest and helmet) back home for faster response.
So it's not about leftism, it's about pussies afraid of guns, and they are growing in number.

I'm mostly left wing and I've always been pro gun. Even in my edgy teen commie phase

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Because the left is not about the rights of the people, it's about authoritarian control sold as the rights of people to idiots.

I'd consider myself left leaning and I'm not completely anti-gun
For:
Mandatory gun defense classes in high school.
Waiting period and background check for gun purchases.
Waiting period and background check for ammo purchases.
Ban of ownership of all assault rifles and military weapons. (Can borrow from government sanctioned organizations)

I'm a leftist.

I'm not pro-gun. I'm not anti-gun either. If you want a gun, you should be able to have a gun. I personally don't care for them. Fired one once to have the experience (terrible aim) just in case some action movie shit happens where someone hands me a gun I would at least know the basics like trigger discipline. Would never want to own one. Especially since I'm ADHD, I'm the type of person to look down the barrel to check for bullets.

most anarchists are pro-gun

Communists have taken over the liberal communities. You can't maintain a police state if your subjects can just shoot you. As far as I know MLK and Gandhi were both pro-gun.

>Ban of ownership of all assault rifles and military weapons.
I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about this. I think I'm against it, though.

this nip gets it

>1984 hasn't predicted the modern surveillance state and perpetual wars
consider suicide

>You can't maintain a police state if your subjects can just shoot you.
I really don't feel like we civilians would stand a chance against a proper police state in this age. They've got all of te best equipment like microwave beams that repel people and functioning lasers. They'd have shit line drones, they'd have all the lines tapped. Guerilla warfare would only go so far. It would be like Iraqi militants versus U.S. occupation, you could certainly do damage and end lives, but you'd never "win", you'd at best be a constant state of resistance.

These days leftists are dominated by ivory tower liberals that are anti-gun because "they're scary" and not because of anything rational. Old school hard left (like commies, anarchists, etc.) were never anti-gun.

Leftists love oppression, but their kind of oppression.

They do not ever imagine that powers they allocate to fuckers they like will be used on them at some point by fuckers who they don't.

Their opinions on rights change by who is in charge at any given time.

It's because you don't know any actual leftists. How are the proletariat supposed to rise up against the bourgeoisie without guns? Famous leftist heroes such as Marx, Orwell, and Huey P. Newton were all pro-gun.

define "assault rifle."

>How are the proletariat supposed to rise up against the bourgeoisie without guns?

They subvert the state and have no use for guns, in fact private guns only protect property in private hands and people from the state. Simple.

Just stupid enough to be able to see through it.

some anarchists are

You want to ban this?

Any mass-shooter/terrorist basically.

I just can't see a good enough reason to keep them legal given the harm they cause in mass shootings. There are better guns for self defense, there are better guns for hunting. The only time I've seen assult rifles IRL, they're basically trophies hanging on a wall or in a vault, so what's the fucking point of having them. If you like how it looks, fine you can keep it, but let's make it unable to shoot bullets.

I'm open to hearing why we should have them though.

If you'd have to ask, I'd probably be in favor of banning it. Specific examples?

Nah.

I'm liberal on all social issues including gun rights pham

cant be doing with liberal economics though

>Nah.
It's a military weapon.

I thought you wanted to ban those?

Communist rulers have guns

Assault rifles are almost never used in crime and much less in mass shootings. They are actually pretty hard to get in the US (thanks NFA and Reagan). Educate yourself.

>assault rifle
Confirmed idiot
Sage

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What makes you think you have the experience and knowledge to decide what guns should and what guns shouldn't be accessible to the people?

I am a pretty blood thirsty Democrat who was "set free" since I would never vote for Clinton. I will vote for Trump since he is great!. I love guns and every time a democrat tries to talk bad about guns I get driven further away from the Democrats. But I am still very liberal on other things.

>The only time I've seen assult rifles IRL, they're basically trophies hanging on a wall or in a vault

Oh man... You need to get your ass over the the gun store and buy some fucking guns! Once you really learn about guns you will be just like the rest of us ;)

George Orwell is an obvious example.

Yeah that's me brah.

Leftists are anti-gun because they want the state to be as powerful as possible and the whole point of universal armament is to intimidate the state from over-reaching. Your cherry-picked quote refers to revolutionary Marxists who want armed workers in preparation for revolution, and who, after revolution, will seize all the guns.

Man webb was cool why couldn't he be the dem nominee

I am in favor of marriage and ethnic equality, social welfare (free education, transportation, healthcare, etc. [obviously with a restructuring of the current system, these changes can't just happen with the way things are]). I think capitalism is a good thing but it needs to be regulated and taxed. I believe the ultra rich can still be ultra rich while making slightly less a year.

But god fucking damnit if these left wing faggots try taking the goddamn guns away or giving into the trigger warning safe space retards I'll freak.

Where the fuck is my moderate left candidate

Have you even owned or used a gun in your life?

>Is there such a thing as a pro gun leftist?
Yes, in almost every instance of leftists having control of a nation it has been by force.
Guns are how they managed that

Pro-gun IS leftist.
If you advocate freedom, that makes you a leftist.

The first party program of our social-democratic party from 1888 literally had the demand to abolish the military and give every citizen a gun instead

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bernie sanders ain't pro gun bro

All of this.

>is there such a thing as a pro gun leftist?
>posts a pic of a pro gun leftist

good job OP

At least until they take power.

I'm very far to the left and think everybody should own a gun. What better way to murder capitalist swine?

The term liberal has been taken by SJW and minorities. I just don't like rich people and corporations.

Gun ownership isn't about gun ownership. It is the crystallization of our political philosophy. Leftists object to that philosophy.

Except they wanna do literally all of those things.

Can we just ban the Democrats that shoot up schools and commit almost all the shootings in the US instead?

Yes. So, I want a gun to kill you and make sure your kind don't come back.

What don't you get?

Assault rifles are banned. Semi-auto is not an assault rifle. Not only that but the "MUH SPOOKY AR-47 WITH 30 ROUND BABY SEEKING CLIPAZINES!" kills less people a year than hands and feet, in fact all rifles combined kill less people a year than that. Stop trying to ban the cool shit when they're not even the ones being used to kill people.

Sam Harris is a lying cuck faggot and should have his teeth pulled out one at a time before being burned alive on a pile of tires. If I knew where he lived, he'd already be dead.

>Leftists are pro-gun
Nope. Leftists CLAIM to be pro-gun until they have to actually come to power. Then they immediately become anti-gun for some strange reason :^)

It's almost like ALL Leftism is just a lie intended to trick idiots into giving power to people who aren't qualified to use it.

>not wanting that zionist shill to be shot down in the desert and left to rot
what, are you gay?

>t. Sam Hyde

Reminder that 26 of the Democrats who were part of the Sit In this past week own guns.

Communists love guns so they can kill people. They fap to their dream of a revolution every chance they get.

The "real left" is all pretty pro-gun.

Only meme socialism, modern liberalism, and total idiots are against empowering individuals to defend themselves.

communists are pro guns. Take for instance the brazilian gommie groups during the military dictatorship. They used to get gorilla traning and everyone were versed in shooting rifles. they belive violence is ok if the endgoal is to take control of the production.

You should stop talking to liberals. The actual far-left is pro-gun.

The chair of the law program I'm in is a fan of Bernie however, he's pretty fucking staunch on gun rights and is even an NRA member.
All in all, a pretty cool guy who's still open to new ideas.

"Pro-gun" is meaningless. Everyone is "pro-gun." Michael Bloomberg thinks his bodyguards should have guns.
As I said upthread, universal armament us the living symbol which crystallizes the fruition of English common law tradition. Are you for that or are you "for" a random physical object?

We are talking about guns in the hands of free citizens, not gommie millitary and paramillitary